The New Polish Streetfighter, based on chinese engine and frame

The "Division 249cc Streetfighter" that the name of it. This bike is a new proposal from ROMET industry. The ROMET is a company who manufacture bicycle and moppeds since '50. Since few years they assemble chinese motobikes and scooters from "Jinlun" and sold in my country under the ROMET sign. The ROMET Z-125 (chinese "Jinlun" 125cc) was a market bestseller in this segment in Poland. The bike is very cheap and very tough.
This is a ROMET web: http://www.motors.romet.pl/

So, for this year season, they decided design new bike for polish users: begginers and young, for polish difficult conditions in the streets, based on chinese frame and well-known in my country, chinese paralel-twin engine 249cc.
And result is a unordinary looks bike. Cmpletely different than all I saw. The ROMET management promise that V-max of this bike will be to 140km/h. Hm, I'm sceptic of it, but if this true, this bike will be strong competition for "KAWASAKI Ninja 250" in Poland. They will have to make a low price of "Ninja" or will kick off the Polish market.

Look at this and write something, what you think about this:
http://www.scigacz.pl/Romet,249,Divi...ter,13012.html

http://foto.scigacz.pl/cache/imgs/_w...on_w_ruchu.jpg

http://foto.scigacz.pl/cache/imgs/_w...ion_czarny.jpg

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Sorry for mistake: engin is not a twin, only a single 223cc

Oh my.... "Romet" is still alive!

Cute, but small (tough heavy) motorcycle.

How much is 8.000 zlots?

Say, can you tell us something about "Zipp" motorcycles? They don't look bad.

A comic book motorbike! But if it works as well as it looks, I hope they export! I would feel twenty years younger on that.
$2400 US

xD Batbike, Jape?

I actually like the looks of the bike now that my brains have got over of the initial shock. It have a nice and fitting big light in the front and interestingly shaped muffler. The striped theme fits too, gives a little rough character to looks. Mirrors are great also. Good looking "street fighter". But what makes me worried is a little bit long distance from rear axle to front axle (1420mm) and the angle of the front fork, and like Zorge said, the weight. If I would get this kind of bike and especially if it would be 223cc I would definetly want it to be very agile. Anyway, I like quite lot of the looks of the bike. If I would not be so much turned on by enduros I could buy this street fighter. Gief it as a 600cc or 500cc at affordable price!

(This Romet is by the way totally new brand to me. Will have to later today enjoy and Google everything I can find of it :)

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Originally Posted by Zorge

Oh my.... "Romet" is still alive!

Cute, but small (tough heavy) motorcycle.

How much is 8.000 zlots?

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Yes, The ROMET still exist and develops.
8.000 PLN = ca. 1.933 EURO

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Originally Posted by Zorge

Say, can you tell us something about "Zipp" motorcycles? They don't look bad.

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Yes, indeed. These bike are good quality. I' ve some friends in my Club, who rides on these. Zipp Raven & Zipp Roadstar: http://www.zipp.pl/produkty.php?pierwszy=3
Zipp Nitro is the bike, on which ROMET build the Division 249 "Streetfighter"

The Zipp Roadstar & Keeway Supershadow are most popular in Poland from chinese bikes segment. Second after Jinlun 250. These are very good bikes: looks expensive and very good parameters and very low exploatations costs.
For example: in the april I changed The rear wheel with tire, chain, sprokets, link from rear break and some details. I paid for all about 600 PLN (ca. 145 EURO)

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Originally Posted by moilami

xD Batbike, Jape?

[...] But what makes me worried is a little bit long distance from rear axle to front axle (1420mm) and the angle of the front fork, and like Zorge said, the weight. If I would get this kind of bike and especially if it would be 223cc I would definetly want it to be very agile. [...]

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Why? I think that enough for traffic. In my bike distance beetwen axis is 1490/1500 mm. And in the traffic jam I feel good. I'm no less agility than GS 500 or XJ 600 for example.

Heh, by the way.
In my country, body design of this bike has been extremely criticized :D

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...2951272025.jpg

I want more info! who makes that?!



What's that MJH? same moto with different brand?

So, from what I could find, it's made by "Heshan Guoji Nanlian Motorcycle Industry Co.,Ltd"


Also the Zipp Nitro 250 is for sale in my country Uruguay as a "Zanella RX250", look:

http://www.zanella.com.uy/rx250/ficha.htm

Yes SENKE makes the bike....

the other bike the Zanella is not the same it looks like it may have an actual 250cc engine.

MJH, that looks kinda fishy.

Compare to the link I posted.


Edit: Senke is not the same as Shenke, LOL!

Thanks for bringing up Zanella, they actually manufacture motorcycles, maybe, I am not sure but they might be working with a Japanese partner? The Zanella motorcycles may not have any connection with china.

That bike may be made in Argentina?

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Originally Posted by PandaBeat

MJH, that looks kinda fishy.

Compare to the link I posted.


Edit: Senke is not the same as Shenke, LOL!

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yeah I edited it, Shenke and Senke are not the same.

Check this out its a picture of a factory, Sundown motorcycles....
Importing and also manufacturing?



http://www.sundownnet.com.br/site/ne...s/fotos/53.jpghttp://www.sundownnet.com.br/site/ne...s/fotos/56.jpghttp://www.sundownnet.com.br/site/ne...s/fotos/56.jpg

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Originally Posted by MJH

Thanks for bringing up Zanella, they actually manufacture motorcycles, maybe, I am not sure but they might be working with a Japanese partner? The Zanella motorcycles may not have any connection with china.

That bike may be made in Argentina?

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Hey, I know for fact that the Zanellas are made in China and just assembled in Argentina to pay less taxes, which is a shame because in the past they actually made every component here :( and now all they do is screw a couple of bolts together and say "Made in Argentina" or "Made in Uruguay".

Who was their partner then? Gilera?

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Who was their partner then? Gilera?

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No partners from what I know. Only a licensed, very very old italian Ceccato engine in the beginnings.

This is their Wikipedia page in spanish, translated to english using the Google translator.

I see....

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...to_100cc_1.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...125_4tgt_s.jpg

The new Zanella motorcycles look very much like Yamaha models to me.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...50_2008_03.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...250_01_max.jpg

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http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...2951272025.jpg

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Jeez,fookin,Christ!!! I expect... so, this is the reall value of "My China Moto": every bullshit will be unmasked :icon10: Thanks guys! :thumbsup:
At last! This is the intereseting questin. I'll write about this to ROMET co.

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Originally Posted by PandaBeat

Hey, I know for fact that the Zanellas are made in China and just assembled in Argentina to pay less taxes, which is a shame because in the past they actually made every component here :( and now all they do is screw a couple of bolts together and say "Made in Argentina" or "Made in Uruguay".

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I do not understand, why tahat is the shame? It is normal practice. The duty on the export from China are ,what I herad, the real killer. I expect the this bike is not a polish concept.
Why? It is simple: capitalism suck! :D

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Originally Posted by MJH

The new Zanella motorcycles look very much like Yamaha models to me.

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For me, the above example looks like CBR 250. This bike bottom is really cool design!

The duty on import from china are high in some countries not exports, they have incentives to export from china in china and restriction are on imports.
In the USA all small trucks have a duty of over 10% if assembled and only 2% if unassembled. The result is all the trucks sold in the USA are made in the USA.
You can buy a new Toyota truck in the USA for $15,000.00 actually the lowest priced small truck on the market and its assembled in Texas, San Antonio used to be in Fremont California but that plants closed or is closing.
I would be fine with that law being imposed on 250cc and under in the USA, then the Japanese can buy the parts from china and pay Americans to assemble them. The quality and customer service would go up, then new comers in the market would have to invest something domestically beyond bribing customs, warehouses and internet sites.
Then they can go ahead and pass laws like they have in Britain for restrictions on size for new riders.
Then you would have more jobs and fewer fatalities.

Dammit, motorcyclists really should run the world. Between us we have all the answers and false boundaries such as countries just restrict our fertile minds and bodies.

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Originally Posted by MJH

The duty on import from china are high in some countries not exports, (...)

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Yes, that right. Sorry, my mistake.

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Originally Posted by jape

Dammit, motorcyclists really should run the world. Between us we have all the answers and false boundaries such as countries just restrict our fertile minds and bodies.

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I agree in 100%. :D

I visited your linked website….mostly Jinlun cruisers? Is that were you are hearing criticism of the Division’s design?
Here is another image of the Romet Division 249.…they could have called it a 223 if it in fact sports the Honda Technology based engine? I think that’s a good engine for that bike IMO and if I was to design a bike around a Chinese manufactured engine I would choose that one. Good as for the specs not sure if its well made many are made by different sources and the quality control does not only vary on manufacturer it can vary within each and their production process.

http://media.onsugar.com/files/ons3/...vision_249.jpgI would say Romet designed the bike and contracted SENKE to manufacture it, mostly likely scenario. But others scenarios are not outside possibility.
If a company can sell enough products, those that invest in custom designs pull on my heart strings….as that’s what I would do. If that bike sells well that could be furthered into designing more and the possibilities are endless.
Its not revolutionary, its just a good tidy modern design. The thing is Romet invested some of the capital it leveraged though sales of re-badged Jinlun motorcycles and then applied that to designing this product with off the shelve Chinese components….that’s ok, its a step up from just re-branding.
We all know that BMW took engine designs to china and others if they have capital can do the same.
Romet could design another and likely would…but only if this bike is embraced if not then it like the dog that was kicked once….its reluctant to come back.
I suspect the Romet name as well as the Zenalla brand name were resurrected with Chinese low cost manufacturing, not necessarily displaced. None of it is static it changes its best to be interactive then to sit on the sidelines pouting about it.
I have no contention if they have good intentions…..like investing in designs I like that and would like to see more of it….I also believe that if limiting riders to small engines to begin ridding on encourages it then I would contend with it, I also believe that if requiring domestic assembly of those bike adds only marginal costs then it should happen.
The results could be and I honestly believe this less fatalities and a wider range of low cost motorcycles. It would also integrate the process better domestically and that’s important as it all has to balance. Greed is what... wanting it all with no regard to how it impacts others?

Its not bad looking.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...met/Romet1.jpg
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http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...met/romet5.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...met/romet6.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...met/Romet2.jpg

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...1963/romet.png
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...1963/senke.jpg

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...senke150-2.jpg
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