Chinese Maxtra 125 MotoGP team!

sounds like a good team, American and European know how w/ Chinese factory backing = a good chance!!

check out the link for more info

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/20...age/#more-1826

Wow! This is serious stuff! Let the games...begin!

http://www.maxtra-racing.com/images_...8E0-640-0.JPEG

http://www.maxtra-racing.com/images_...8E0-640-0.JPEG

http://www.maxtra-racing.com/images_...8E0-640-0.JPEG


Maxtra Links:

http://www.maxtra-racing.com/default.aspx - Maxtra's homepage. Lots of great well organized information!

http://www.gizmag.com/bold-new-chine...unveiled/9347/ - Seven page article on Maxtra's release and analysis of the future C-Moto industry. A good read..with pictures.

CC

chinese moto-boner there....

No joke. This could be major news esp. if they can stand on the podium any time soon.

CC

About time China gets serious in that sport . I hope it breeds to a victory . They are certainly capable of respect when it comes to building these machines . If they get serious enough like the currrent trend appears to be going with them , they will even earn the rest of the worlds respect once they start winning on those machines . Hopefully they can put away thier bad quality steriotypical thoughts most people have on thier products by doing this quality race stuff .

Those are just beautiful two stroke machines , and the bike is nice too . :biggrin:

I would sure love to ride that bike :thumbup:

Cheers, Snortin Norton

Did you see the video posted on their site now? These guys are not messing around :D

www.maxtra-racing.com

Video shows a good look of the upside down cylinder, frame... well just about everything.

Looking at those pics this bikes seems to be at the same level as the best from Japan and Europe. I hope it trickles down to real Chinese bikes that can be bought someday. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

motogp.com says "The team intend to commence racing in the 125cc category in 2009 using Haojue machinery produced the Grand River Group (GRG), who have links with Suzuki and who sold 2.7 million motorcycles last year"

but others are more specific:
crash.net: ..."former Aprilia engineer Jan Witteveen in charge of engine development and British company Harris Performance manufacturing the chassis"

www.auto123.com "Dutch engineer Jan Witteveen, winner of more than 40 world championships in off-road and GP racing, designed it. The compact chassis and wind-cheating bodywork are by foremost British racing manufacturer Harris Performance Products."

motorsportsforums.com "some big names behind this project Surtees, Taylor, engine designed and built by Jan Witteveen, chassis by Harris Performance

They also try to built it up as a Chinese bike but Haojue is just the money."


Kind of like the Shineray MX Team China that competes in the World MX Grand Prix races in Europe (they race on Honda CRF450s)...

I still think it's good though - there's a lot to be learned in racing about performance (and that's what many moto riders want more of! Me included!), but I wish the Chinese teams would compete using their own machinery.

from http://www.bbc.co.uk/isleofman/conte..._feature.shtml
"In 1959 Honda had sent a pack of 125cc machines to contest the TT and though people laughed at first, Honda went on to win the manufacturers team prize that year.....In 1960 Honda entered the 250-4s and more 125s and were joined by Suzuki. Yamaha had been represented earlier by a private entry ridden by Sonny Angel (who was at the 2007 TT)...Since 1960 Honda and the other japanese manufacturers have supported the TT and ruled the roost, however the British motorcycle industry collapsed as a result. "

http://www.autohistory.org/feature_7.html
and here: His attitude took Honda motorcycles from a disappointing finish in their first international race in 1954 to a manufacturer's team prize in the 1959 Isle of Man race in Honda's first year at that race.

Honda's racing successes converted to sales successes. In 1959, Honda had topped the Japanese motorcycle sales chart with 285,000 units. Two years later, Honda was selling at rate of 100,000 units a MONTH!

That's a great collection of links and info DH. It would be nice if they raced with their own machinery and technology but I suppose it's a learning process and they'll likely take some of the design advancements in their engine and either a) resell it or b) use it in their own machines.

Either way, it looks good as long as they keep working with outside parties and putting the necessary attention and resources behind it.

It would be great just to see one of these bike in the starting line up at a MotoGP Event. That by itself will be some news! If WuXia could sit behind the bars, it would be double awesome! :thumbsup:

CC

bit of an update

http://www.gizmag.com/first-images-m...nd-tests/9510/

upsidedown engine layout....very intresting:thumbsup:

USD engine is sweet! Makes a lot of sense from the air/exhaust flow aspects and probably dramatically lowers the center of gravity of the bike.

http://www.gizmag.com/pictures/9510_220608100628.jpg

I REALLY want to see this bike at the starting grid and the podium!

CC

I thought i heard the other day that MotoGP was phasing out the 2 strokes.The 250 Class was going to be 600 4 strokes or 400 4 strokes.Don't know what will happen to the 125 class 250 4 strokes like moto-x.

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/20...ring-125g.html


looks like they might produce a production bike for the strets based on this racer...interesting.....

WOW, what a smashing looking little 125, makes we wish I were 16 again :riding: