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I got an scooter with no license plates and have been denied gas on numerous occasions from large state owned gas stations (I am assuming it is because I do not have plates). Where do I need to go to get gas in Shanghai (French Concession)? There are plenty of bikes without license plates and they must be getting gas from a smaller, private gas station of some sort. Can anyone help?
I've never seen a private or underground filling station in Shanghai. As others have noted recently in this forum, there is a general crackdown providing fuel for unplated bikes or bikes with plates from outside of Shanghai. Not sure if this would apply to cars from other cities, but I doubt it. Seems pretty unfair. But this is China.
You also cannot fill a container at a filling station, as they'll assume you are up to some nefarious plot.
You'll just need to ask around and find out where the vast posse of lawless scooter riders in Jiaoji Lu get their fuel.
Or get a legal bike, which seems to be what the government wants.
I see this is your first post. How about telling us about yergoodself and what you are doing in the endless city?
cheers
In Shanghai studying until December and decided to get a bike to be more nimble in the city. Turns out that Im not so nimble with an empty tank! Scooter has been a great way to get around till now.
Getting a legit bike is pretty much out of the option given my time constraints, but am still looking for a place to fill up if anyone has any ideas.
i can assure some of your smart classmate can come up with a creative solution there, don't under estimate the locals.Quote:
Originally Posted by tfc
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Having the same trouble getting gas. Till I find a place in Shanghia that'll sell me gas, I went out to the suburbs and filled up a 5 gallon container. Told them it was for a lawn mower. Should last me for a while.
Howdy SHMike, welcome to MCM.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHMike
Hopefully that 5 gallons doesn't last too long, the gas here will go stale after about 60 days. I always have a can in the garage for my dirt bike and have been surprised at how nasty the stuff gets after 4-6 weeks.
Cheers!
ChinaV
I usually see the scooter kids hanging around the corner from the gas station looking for the bigger kids with IDs to buy for them (something reminiscent of my teenage years hanging around the am/pm minimart trying to buy beer).:goodtime:
http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/default.aspxQuote:
Originally Posted by ChinaV
Can't you buy this stuff or similar fuel stabiliser all over China? http://www.bjtc.net/
I use it for waterpumps/mowers and similar that are not often used or laid up over a season. And for my emergency 20 litre can. Good to use because it stops the breakdown of the organics even in the carbies/hoses etc.
I have been told that a touch of synthetic 2 stroke mix oil in your 4 stroke gas tank will do the same. I can say from long practise over the years of having to drain all the tools to get enough fuel to go into town that it does work OK in the 4 stroke engine, but not sure if that method protects/improves as Stabil does.
Hmm, good point. Didn't think about that. Will give fuel stabilizer a try...or after a month, sell the remaining gas to the scooter kids around the corner. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ChinaV
Could always syphon gas from a car. Or just wait outside a Lawson and take the cars of people running in a for a pack of smokes. :) Not sure if anyone has figures but you have to wonder at the number of cars being stolen when drivers still leave the vehicles running and the doors unlocked.
Seriously though, see 4 CJ's and a handful of gas scooters in my building parking. Will try to find the owners and see about setting up a little fuel depot.
I've just moved to shanghai and my CJ contacts here are telling me that the sidecars are not having problems buying pertol, even with outside plates.
I cannot give any first hand info as my CJ is still in suzhou and i will go back to get it next week. I will let you know of my successes and failures as they come. Should it be easy enough, i'm not adverse to helping someone out by going to fill up a tank for them, the CJ easily holds 120rmb worth.
Was talking to some CJ owners yesterday and they said they were not having any problems getting fuel. I filled up my Suzhou plated bike at the gas station on Yanan (just before it turns into the 318) 2 days ago. The station on Gudai near the 320 was good also two days before that.
Okay so the law as I hear it.... and I have asked everyone including police, is that outside or no plate motorcycles and scooter cannot be legally refilled at gas stations in Shanghai within (once again) the outer ring (A20). However many stations still fill up because they are not cops and don't care so much. There are creative(illegal) ways to get around this. The attendants only need to look down and see that "hu" symbol (sorry my computer doesn't type chinese) they are not going to ask to see you blue books and run them through the computers. Anyone with a nice printer and some magnetic tape could come up with a slap on "solution". Also I have spied a car near Kele lu filling up a row of fuel cans in the trunk of his red buick 3 door. He must have paid the attendant to allow him to fill'em up. (he was actually filling not the attendant). I think he is a refueling station but I am not sure where in the city he "deals"... Dealing fuel on the street is kinda Mad Max like huh!
As far as three wheelers are conserned, they are exempt because they are not motorcycles. Offically they are 3 wheel cars (hence the ability to go on the elevated rds)
Haven't had any problems with this still (fingers crossed). I would highly caution messing with your plate though. If you get controlled with outside plates in Shanghai its much easier to play dumb than if you have fake plates.
I agree that messing with ones plate is not always wise, however if one was to perhaps use some creative ideas to print HU 户 on thin white cardboard then cut it out and perhaps apply it with some double sided tape to some blue duck-tape and apply the said combination to the plate just before entering the fuel station (and then again on exiting after having gained the fuel), then chances are things would go pretty smoothly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuhaus
One could also have a local sign writing company knock out the required character onto some blue computer cut vinyl at just the right size. If that was to prove difficult, then just go and buy a small square of the vinyl and use the printed out character or use an overhead projector and the HU 户 character as a stencil and cut it out by hand. It's so easy to do.
One could be slightly more creative and apply the character to a thin piece of Perspex and use Velcro to apply the character combination more easily when needed. - Just an idea... I've not experienced any issues on getting petrol in any of my travels with my Ningbo plated motorcycles or car, and was up in Hangzhou last week on my Jetmax visiting CFMoto Company (report to come) and rode through the areas where motorcycles are banned, I also stopped for petrol while there - no problem.
Since I mention CFMoto, I should state that the whole visit was great. Very clean, organised, professional looking site. Very tidy and well laid out assembly lines (4 assembly lines in total). 20% of the staff are dedicated to R&D and technical innovation, and all technical employee's wear a clean uniform (pants/shirt) with CFMoto screen printed on the shirt, meanwhile the admin people wore nice suits - impressions count! The CFMoto show room and display was huge and also a great design, featuring a rockery display for the ATV's and UTV's on display. A complete range of what CFMoto manufactured bikes, ATV's and UTV's were on display, though the new 800cc twin cylinder cruiser was not, which was a shame (from my point of view), fortunately their new 650 twin sport bike was. Both these models (650 and 800) will be released and for sale shortly after the Chinese New Year 2011. The 650 that I did get to see, was a revelation with some interesting design elements.
The whole CFMoto site was a reassuring visit, and my comparison with Geely motorcycle manufacturing site in Taizhou was like chalk and cheese. As stated, I will do a post of my visit with photos elsewhere on this site.
Bostik Blu-tack is the "partner" to these creative plate. | Keyword "蓝丁" in taobao.Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerdoc