Tough times are coming up in the capital for car owners as media report and rumors spread.
Anyway it is time to act quick for the BJ govt.
Here is the story.
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Tough times are coming up in the capital for car owners as media report and rumors spread.
Anyway it is time to act quick for the BJ govt.
Here is the story.
Funny, I doubt and any measures they take will do anything in the short term to do anything other than increase car sales and traffic congestion. On a positive note it is nice to see that Chinese car drivers are finally realizing that it is actually they who are causing the congestion, and have quit blaming other vehicles on the most part.
I predict a cull of vehicles over ten years old, particularly those that have higher emissions (eg Xiali, Geely etc) coming to a city near you soon :lol8:.
Sure the amount of cars is the main reason for congestion, but I think it is not the only one.
Poor traffic facilities, improper driver training, lack of discipline and a pile of stupid regulations also add to the chaos.
10 entrances / exits within 2 kms must lead to congestion - no matter in what country. Moreover, the arrangement "entrance first then exit" on the ring roads, paired with "go to the leftmost lane as quick as you can, and stay there until the latest possible moment" are killer factors for traffic flow.
Driver training is a laugh and every "instructor" has his own "rules" to teach the applicants. "Shift to the highest gear in the shortest possible distance" and "the leftmost lane on an expressway is the safest" are my favorite stupid rules :lol8:
Although native speakers, linguists, Sinologists and other experts keep on telling me that the word discipline exists in Chinese language, I doubt it has the same meaning as it has in English :naughty:
Interesting to see major traffic jams on a ordinary weekday at 14:00 - it seems that people have nothing to do but driving around.
On the other hand commuting times are extremely high for many people and two hours or more for one way on poor public transport is simply getting too much for many people.
I am afraid that the day of a total road traffic collapse in some of the capitals areas is not far away :eekers:
Ways out of the dilemma? A hefty congestion fee would be a solution to fund modern public transportation.
Trains, housing and commerce linked, then people that get sick of the traffic have an option. Then also based on were you live and were you work, registered triangulations on daily paths and then presented alternatives to those with real time and capital saving as results.
It is a shame they did not consider that in urban planning, big city centers can be car free, they can be serviced by rail and trams that circulate within them. That’s about transit nodes that people can drive to park and then commute into density centers on public transit. Like a star and then rings that circle through them.
They can or could charge commuter taxes based on the resident locations and the employment locations. Then that distance could be discounted with active rail use, that rail use could be calculated through Wi-FI and a hand held devices, that would be a GPS. It could be useful to get to a destination on public transit.
I’d say a certain amount of commuter miles allowed then when exceeded the commuter tax would ramp up, then credit offsets offered on regular use of public transports.
Getting a transit pass would or could offer a hand held GPS smart phone. Every car sold could be required to have also a built in GPS and calculated mileage, then the two get linked.
China should be building future cities, they have cars now so now they have to build giant public transport models to offset the congestion. Freedom of choice and fees for those choices if less then ideal collectively.
I call those self incurred taxes, they can be avoided with alternatives, then the taxes are cycled to fund the alternatives those that have to drive and even drive high consumption vehicles would pay the most and fund the alternatives they refuse to utilize.
I have some models for commercial traffic to, based on weight limits allowing full access but automatically charging higher taxes for violations. That would encourage smarter distribution systems utilizing rail and encouraging breakdown to lighter smaller vehicle into high density areas. GPS managed logistics and road become smart grids. That reduces cost of road repair because weight is the biggest destructor of roads.
Heaven help the Chinese if they see a car as a center of their identity, that way of thinking is a social sickness.
I also like the concept of robotic garages, there may always be a reason to have a car and there manufacturing are industrial drivers, but they have become over used and really are often much more then what is needed for daily commuting.
The population density in Asia are way to high to support the ideal of all individuals having automobiles, if they do then the utilization has to be much lower then that of less populated regions. In the west the daily commutes and even annual commuting is excessive couple that with 10x population density and the results are disastrous.
Higher mileage vehicles driven less, that can only be attained with mass transit alternatives for daily commuting.
ChinaBiker and other Beijingers,
You'll find THIS REPORT entertaining, to say the least. Beijing's vice mayor for traffic management is exiled to Xinjiang (maybe he'll buy a motorcycle:riding::riding::riding:), and the city will slash the number of cars sold next year to 1/3 of this year's total.:deal:
Wow! But can they pull it off?
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December 23, 2010
Plan to Ease Beijing Traffic Hits a Bump
By MICHAEL WINES
BEIJING — In Beijing’s newfound enthusiasm to address its smothering traffic jams, it appears that Huang Wei has succeeded too well.
Mr. Huang, Beijing’s vice mayor for traffic management, resigned Thursday and was reassigned to remote western China, the exile destination of choice for those out of favor. The demotion followed a record splurge on new-car purchases by Beijingers, who apparently anticipated that the city was about to tackle its traffic jams by limiting registrations of new vehicles.
The city did just that on Thursday, announcing that it would issue only 240,000 new license plates next year, a third of this year’s number, in the final version of a traffic-improvement plan that was first issued Dec. 13. The final plan envisions miles of underground highways, higher center-city parking fees, vastly expanded subway and bicycle networks, and a lattice of new downtown streets — as well as a cap on new vehicle registrations — in an attack on traffic that ranks among the world’s worst.
Beijingers reacted to hints of a cap on new registrations by rushing to buy cars at a record rate. Last week, the city registered 30,000 new vehicles, the most ever, and 50 percent more than in the preceding week. Mr. Huang’s role in the preparation of the traffic plan was unclear, but the timing and site of his reassignment suggested that higher authorities were displeased with the surge in car buying.
In a July poll of commuters in 20 cities, I.B.M. concluded that the most insufferable traffic was in Beijing and Mexico City.
For letting false rumors leaking out and make people buy cars like crazy. Week 50 saw 20000 registrations and they ran out of plates :naughty:Quote:
Originally Posted by euphonius
The news are out now officially.
Notice on the Implementation of Traffic Control Measures
on Non-Beijing Passenger Service Vehicles Heading for Beijing
Notice on Adjustment of Small Passenger Car Registration in Beijing
I have developed two business models in order to help people to overcome the above. So if you are interested, PM me and I'll submit you an offer for a consultancy agreement :lol8::lol8::lol8:
A few more good laughs on this site. Particularly some December articles are worth a read :rolleyes1:
How about restricting car ownership to only people who have a little skill and common sense behind the wheel. That will do it.
Regds,
Jim
Hopefully he will fix the toll road from Urumqi to Shihezi.Quote:
Originally Posted by euphonius
Maybe he can stop the carnage on the highways in Xinjiang in winter.Not that it's great in summer.
A guy in Wuhan invented an interesting business and aslo Jinan sees the traffic jam busting service :icon10:
follow by, Guangzhou.
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Originally Posted by chinabiker
Almost funny, but really sad. And then remind me again why are motorcycles banned?Quote:
With traffic jams becoming a major problem in China, drivers who get stuck in traffic can now get on their mobile phones and call for a substitute to take their cars to their destinations, while the frustrated drivers are whisked away on the back of a motorcycle.
Hey, I could do that in my spare time! Great way to pick up girls too!
thanks for the tip...
brr.. .double post.
I'll take 14 t-shirts please, and a big fat banner to stick on the bike..
http://hotimg23.fotki.com/a/123_86/46_84/traffic.jpg
You are not stuck in traffic.
You are traffic
Does that idea translate into Chinese?