My day at PIT Motors LTD and the CCW Tha Heist

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Ok guys I went down to PIT Motors LTD and met the guys who are bringing the Tha Heist to the States. They are located about 2hr drive for me, one way, and I ended up hanging out down there for 4 hrs. Brett and All are good guys. Real gear heads.
They let me see the facility and take some pics of the place the bikes and the way they are shipped, I also was able to test drive the CCW Tha Heist.

i asked about the engine displacement and it is a 229cc Lifan Engine Now in checkking a few things out My brother's Dyna 1500cc is really a 1460cc, My buddy's shadow 600cc is really 583cc so that its marked as 250cc doesnt bother me in the least.

I had the Bike out for a good 15 - 20 minutes to get a feel of the handling. The Bike has a great feel and a real nice pull to it. the seat was comfortable, let me tell you the roads in NJ pitted as hell. the handling was smooth and so was the gear shifts. It has a tight gear box so no false neutrals. The Rigid frame is very well constructed and the welds are clean and well done. The bike has all the legal tags (lol) and they are listed on the NJ approved manufactures list. What does this mean, I can title it in my State and its legit to be on the streets.

now in comparing the DF250RTB and the CCW Heist I can say the the handling felt better on the Heist. It may be due to the Heist engine being broken in but the Heist felt like it had better power and was able to stay in first for more than 5 seconds without screaming for mercy.

They knew the story of what had happened with Scooterdepot and the DR250RTB. One of the first things that Brett asked was did I bring the other bike down so they could ship it back for me, and he was serious. i had already shipped the other bike back the night before but thats a whole other story in the Dong Fang thread.

After a couple hours, a few cups of coffee and being allowed to play with the other bikes they had on site. i put a deposit down on the bike.

They were real understanding that I wanted to wait till I have my money returned from the other bike before paying for it straight out, but i still put the deposit down anyway.
They are taking care of all the PDI and all the other workup on the Bike and will start building it tomorrow. They even offered to drive it up to me themselves and asked me to come down and hang out whenever i want and go riding.

the Bike is worth every penny of the MSRP of $3195 USD I didnt even blink an eye and should have done this from the beginning.

here are some pics of the facilty and me on the bike.

If all goes the way it is supposed to I should have the bike by the 1st of April

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Originally Posted by Gardo

Attachment 3480 goes the way it is supposed to I should have the bike by the 1st of April

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- just make it the 2nd Gardo, don't tempt fate. Great report, thank you.

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Originally Posted by jape

- just make it the 2nd Gardo, don't tempt fate. Great report, thank you.

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ROFL too tru Jape tooo true

Fantastic report, Gardo. Thanks so much for your candor and clear thinking, and for laying out the whole process for us.

I guess one of the lessons here is the corrupting allure of what's now called "the China price" -- the absurdly low dockside prices one sees in wholesale sites like Alibaba. The allure is corrupting for importers as well as for us consumers. Yes, if you are little web-based importer working out of a crack den you can pass some of these savings on to your "customers" and offer an el cheapo price and still make a decent margin. But you won't come close to rivaling what a bricks-and-mortar dealership can offer in the way of service and support (not that all bricks-and-mortar shops actually DO offer good service). It's this service that adds to the final retail price.

Looking forward to your followup reports upon delivery. Hope it's a most excellent and memorable April Fool's Day for you!

cheers

looks amazing =)
I had spoke with Brett a few weeks back he seems like hes a really nice guy.
Either way I know the next few bikes I will be getting are from him =)

BTW that heist looks so damn good! I love the longer rake on it, it really makes the bike look more aggressive.

Brett and Al are awesome and riding both, the bikes not the guys, i can tell you this one felt... right, better. i think it was because the engine was broken in.
i also asked about the size of the main jet and its a 98 stock. I still think it needs to be bigger like 105.

Also while I was there they showed me the dealer support system in place. Brick and mortot stores carrying the bike and having a "local" person for support. That blew my mind

Fine, fine, fine looking bike! Congrats & good luck in April! Just in time for a lot of fun summer riding!

air filter cone looks a bit close to the goolies mate?

Thank you very much of the report.

I am happy on their behalf you bought a bike from them and from your behalf you are going to get cool street legal bike.

I wish all the best for both you and them.

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air filter cone looks a bit close to the goolies mate?

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Good one jape.:lol8:

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Brett and Al are awesome and riding both i can tell you this one felt... right, better. i think it was because the engine was broken in.
i also asked about the size of the main jet and its a 98 stock. I still think it needs to be bigger like 105.

Also while I was there they showed me the dealer support system in place. Brick and mortot stores carrying the bike and having a "local" person for support. That blew my mind

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Gardo,
The Heist is a nice looking bike and there is some added value with local dealer support for those that need it.
I'm running a 100 right now in my bobber and it seems about right.
We will have to meet up some day for a drag race.:icon10:

I do think that CCW needs to have this photo on their site, Gardo. Have you thought of modeling? :lol8:

Scott Colosimo is definitely a class-act guy and, following in the footsteps of offering quality Chinese bikes to the US (the first being Johnny Pag) should be on anyone's list. I eagerly await the Hooligun, myself!

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Gardo,
The Heist is a nice looking bike and there is some added value with local dealer support for those that need it.
I'm running a 100 right now in my bobber and it seems about right.
We will have to meet up some day for a drag race.:icon10:

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You my friend are on, the Heist is a 98 stock but i have them tweeking a few things for me

LoL culcune, you are too much man.

Ok so i saw that the bikes are assembled here in the States and the parts are manufactured in China, since the build and setup are done here does it make it a Chna bike. and If thats the case with HD sourcing their parts in China is it still an all American Bike.

I thought Hardley were throwing in with India not China. That said, I'd bet it's damn near impossible to build a bike anywhere these days WITHOUT parts from China.

cheers

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Originally Posted by euphonius

I thought Hardley were throwing in with India not China. That said, I'd bet it's damn near impossible to build a bike anywhere these days WITHOUT parts from China.cheers

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or build anything ... its how they intend to take over the world this century!

lol they already have!

Hey Gardo,

Read about your adventures with the dong fang. Thanks for all the info with the Heist. In your pics, its that the Misfit, the cafe racer, beside you? Im seriously considering getting that one.

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Originally Posted by Kobol

Hey Gardo,

Read about your adventures with the dong fang. Thanks for all the info with the Heist. In your pics, its that the Misfit, the cafe racer, beside you? Im seriously considering getting that one.

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There are a some of the CCW Misfits in the states, the guys from PIT will have there's going this week coming. I would shoot them an email and see when a local dealer will have them.

BTW Kobol - Welcome to the forum why not stop over and introduce yourself in the Welcome section. There is a lot of great information on this site and a bunch of hellofa nice guys too

ok guys the Heist has a 15T front sprocket and a 41T rear sprocket check out this link PIT sent me that gives a great breakdown on the ratios
Motorcycle Sprocket Ratio Calculator

Must be running a 420 chain on the Heist instead of the 520 on the DF to get a 15 tooth on the 167FMM engine.

that doesn't sound like a bad idea on the dong fang =)

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ok guys the Heist has a 15T front sprocket and a 41T rear sprocket check out this link PIT sent me that gives a great breakdown on the ratios
Motorcycle Sprocket Ratio Calculator

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I like the one Aboshi suggested since it considers the tire size and does an approximate speed calculation assuming the engine has the power.
http://www.bikerenews.com/Stories_Ar...Calculator.htm

CCW has some competition!!!

http://californiascooterco.com/scooters.html

Thats not competition at all lol, that thing is a toy especially at 149cc and $4,300.
For $4,300 you can get something much better.

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Originally Posted by culcune

CCW has some competition!!!

http://californiascooterco.com/scooters.html

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4300 for a minibike? For 4300 you could buy yourself a whole lot more bike :p

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CCW has some competition!!!

http://californiascooterco.com/scooters.html

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i found them a bit back, my 3yr old wants the pink one. Not really competition, but another brand. An expensive brand but totally different class

The CA scooter looks like the old Cushman Eagle.
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...ER2jMjSoLk.jpg

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Originally Posted by Aboshi

Thats not competition at all lol, that thing is a toy especially at 149cc and $4,300.
For $4,300 you can get something much better.

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I was yoking :naughty::lol8:, but they look kinda cool, especially as compared to the numerous standard and retro scooters. Interestingly, they seem to have the upright 150cc engines vs. the standard GY-6 engines found on the standard scoots.

The word scooter can be what ever you want it to be? I guess. I would think it has to be an automatic to be a scooter and if it gets an auto shift then it becomes a CUB…but that’s just me.

I would say those CA models are above a mini bike and below a full sized bike the only thing that they have that could remotely categorize them as a scooter is the wheel size at 13”