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Who is SOMOTO?
They claim to be partners with Haojin Group.
http://www.somoto.cn/about.asp
Yet in other listing they are using the Qingqi brand name?
http://sddzsxj.en.ecplaza.net/1/profile.asp
The designs we have already seen….will this require a new cast of characters to address this?
:popcorn:
Who is FLYBO another brilliant brand name...
http://www.flybo.cn/
Does everyone sleep in the same bed in china?
Nothing offered with a Suzuki engine….not that I am such a Suzuki fan, it just seems that the Suzuki 250 engines are the better engines.
I’d like to see something designed around the GN250 engine or the 250 engine version Qingqi offers and I have said that too many times.
I also see much better ratings on the Loncin 223cc OHC single, I also think it is odd that they are advertising the 229cc as a OHC with the same specs as the current 229cc OHV…did that get messed up in the translation?
Budget engines and higher prices will not be order winners…..
http://www.enotes.com/management-enc...fying-criteria
SOMOTO and its USA partner CCW successful Participated in the biggest Motor show in North American--2011 Indianapolis show. At this show, some new brand models have been showed such as CLASSIC, GRX, VEGO etc....
somoto http://www.somoto.cn/contact.asp = haojin http://www.haojin.com.cn/News_View.asp?NewsID=1021 ???
I guess that the Suzuki partners have limited licenses, maybe they cannot sell the engines to others?
They I believe can sell them under their own brands though.
Part of distribution consideration is the a matter of an economy of scale, selling more reduces the costs of operations, that being the operational cost per unit falls with each additional sale as long as you have an efficient system. I said this before unless your employees are getting back to back calls or cannot keep up with orders then you are not selling enough and in that you need more models.
Tastes…it is why they have menus in restaurants.
Part of the reasons the online vendors do better is that they have many offerings.
That could be done better if the model were all differentiated by the source…that being the Original Equipment Manufacturer.
Can the GN250 be sold in the USA? Certainly the entire line of 250 models Qingqi has can be. A distributor can offer multiple brands. Those have already been EPA approved…..offer more and let the dealers choose from those brands and models that are best for their markets.
For that type of business model to work it would require not just one operation center, likely would require one center and then at least three more warehouses for efficient transportation logistics. They all have to be linked with one inventory management software application, relational databases that are also linked to the source factories. One central server accessed through a VPN like Citrix offers.
Standard offering from each OE manufacturer line and then custom versions and those can be sold through a unique brand and also as conversions kits.
:riding:Yes... 营销中心——国内事业部 are the same phone numbers....Quote:
Originally Posted by humanbeing
your a better detective then me....
time to ride....stuff is interesting, but the weather is good.
My bad thought they were working with the Grand River Group.
Haojin is not Haojue, couple of letters make big difference.
SOMOTO updated its website, it has a familiar buggy feel of a low budget site, you cannot change an image with it refreshing the entire page.
SOMOTO is actually a place in Nicaragua, literally translates into the valley of geese. so it is not an ideal brand name, “SOMOTO for life the ride of your life” is their slogan? Typical Chinese marketing, things you over look more then are attracted by?
Not sure who is behind the website or the naming, but sorry they stink at it and that is the truth.
Hahah there is also a computer virus called SOMOTO…..
Ok enough of that,
The bikes are OK
The trellis framed prototype is pretty cool.
http://www.somoto.cn/UploadFiles/2012101422561135.jpg
http://www.somoto.cn/UploadFiles/20121014225634364.jpg
http://www.somoto.cn/UploadFiles/20121014225657515.jpg
Un saluto a tutti dal Verlicchi! :icon10:
Cheap-ass Dorsoduro. Cute!
God, I really love C-moto industry. And I'm serious.
The little classic is being offered in Thailand, they call it sport classic CENTAUR.
The company offering them is called Stallion, they primarily offer mini-bikes.
http://b2bthaistorage.blob.core.wind...ODS5QY52KQ.png
Retail price 64,500 THB coverts to about $2,200.00 USD
They actually have a working model of the trellis framed bike.
http://www.somoto.cn/bianji/UploadFi...3114615976.jpg
First time I've seen a trellis swingarm. Overall appearance is nice but what about strength and safety?
Euphonius
Megelli use them for several years.
This model is not a copy of the Meggeli though as the form is different.
I am not sure which engines they will use for that bike, the details are not on the site.
There are a couple 250cc water cooled options, they likely will buy the Zongshen 4-valve, my guess.
I would like to see it with the DOHC engine that Yingang has, wonder which one cost less?
The prototype is air cooled and likely sporting a CB type, if they use that it really should be the balanced shaft versions. They are likely finding out that they do better with the 125cc offerings? Their simply is a bigger market for them so these would need a really good 125cc version for the UK.
I have to say the 200cc Suzuki is a very good engine, it also is different after mature then new seems smoother. I rode mine last night and it has good power. But it vibrates, I would like to test some of the CB engines with balance shafts the smoother the better.
Not sure if I would want a trellis frame, they look cool but all I see is an engine in a cage, hard to get at? Ever work on something and say….who the fuck designed this, they must have never thought about anyone working on it?
Great point. I hate just having to pull the ratty plastics from my bikes.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJH
cheers!
I'm just saying that trellis swingarm (or even whole frame) is not something new on a C-moto.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJH
A propos different engines in Somoto's bike: I think they are ready to squeeze in any engine that potential buyer ask for.
After Dong Fang and Znen (CCW), Somoto also offered their rigid frame chopper with ape hanger handlebars - Jackpot.
http://www.somoto.cn/UploadFiles/201342211278755.jpg
http://www.somoto.cn/product.asp?big...125/250&id=441
Big fat tires on those…..
I noticed that SSR will be offering a 250cc motocross bike that has the Zongshen 250cc 4-valve engine.
http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/index.html
CCW is offering an Asiawing 450 as their Hooligun, looks like the same frame for the SSR.
This SSR 250R looks like the Asiawing NC250.
http://www.asiawing.com/english/nc250.html
SSR is likely aligned within a group….that includes CCW and Somoto.
The Trellis frames Motard will likely come with the Zongshen engine….which is good as it is also coming over in the SSR 250R. I would like to see more bikes with that engine…it may be a decent engine.