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And another one in Beijing
Hi there,
I would be the latest addition to the exquisite club of Beijing ren in this forum if only I had a license and a bike and a plate.
But all is in the works. First gotta make an exit run, renew my visa, enroll at laoshan, pass all the tests and then get my bike.
After all I read on this forum, I decided I want to get one of these Shineray XY200GY-7 but have not been able to find a dealer in the Jing so far. Can anybody help me out on this?
Thanks for putting up MYM, it has been a great help already and I am looking forward to more news and chatter.
BTW, never owned a motorbike before but had to use one of these 110 cc scooters in Vietnam for some months and went out on a CJ with some other riders this spring. That is my moto experience so far...
Cheers!
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short update: did my exit stamp run, go a new visa, registered at Laoshan, went through all 800 questions and will be at the DMV to shedule the written test tmrw...
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Nice work, Fahni. Once again, just memorize the answers to questions that don't make sense, and there may be quite a few of these. Logic does NOT work on this exam. You'll be legal in no time.
Any progress toward selecting and purchasing a bike? Still plenty left to this riding season.
cheers
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Dear Euphonius,
thanks for following my "progress" I am not too worried about the exam. With two more weeks to go, there should be plenty of time. Then again, you never know...
As for the bike, that is a real headache. Even chinese riders in forums seem to have no clue on registrable bikes. Will go to EICMA at the weekend to get some info from manufacturers. But my masterplan is to get a 2nd hand bike. Since I don't have a 180 day visa (stupid NGO restrictions don't allow for a Z visa) and my GFs also expires Jan 2nd 2012 I probably will have to convince the seller to "rent" it to me for half a year until I can register it in my GFs name. Or I ask a friend to register it in his name. Do you think that is doable? What would you suggest?
Thanks for the support!
Fahni
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Hey Fahni - welcome to MCM and congrats on wading into the waters of Legal Riding in China. I went through Laoshan last summer and can assure you that it's really just a matter of going through the process - you'll be legal before you know it! Also - once you pass the computer test and get called for the week of "classes" - you can get lots of free riding practice - when I went through it, everyone showed up on Monday for the first "class" - and it was tough to get much riding in (5-6 people per bike).. but then Tuesday-Thursday only about a third of the people showed up and I could basically ride as much as I wanted.
As far as bike registration goes, you may already know, but if you buy new the dealer can handle the registration. If you buy used, make sure the bike is already registered and then you can potentially hire an agent to do all the leg work it takes to transfer the registration. Lao Jia Huo just posted a pretty extensive
summary of registration issues here in Beijing. When I bought my bike, I lived inside 4th Ring and opted to get it registered in a company's name.
Good luck - and once everything's in order - I'm sure you'll find it was worth all the effort!
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I am progressing: had my written exam today and finished with 92 points.:clap: My gf (even though she started studying in the very last moment) finsihed with an amazing 96:bowdown:
Our paperwork is on the way to Laoshan as we speak and I am looking forward to starting test driving next week.
京B-plated 200/250 cc dual-sport for sale, anyone?
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OK, test driving will not start before next monday but I already found a bike, made a down payment so it will be ready as soon as I got my DL
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...but I already found a bike, made a down payment so it will be ready as soon as I got my DL
I think you've been taking lessons from Pat on how to create suspense in a forum post! I hope you'll not keep us waiting too long before revealing your choice of bike, along with how you found it and how you decided on this one. With plenty of pix, of course!
Congratulations, and cheers!
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:naughty:
unintentionally! It is the little Jialing:
http://www.jialing.com.cn/newjl/admi...160429_190.jpg
I found a 2nd hand one with only 160 km on the meter. Had her first oil change already and cost was only 7000 all in (1 year warranty, 京B plates, insurance)
Made up your mind about your visit to the Jing?:riding:
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So far as I know you'll be the first MCM member with this bike. Really look forward to hearing your feedback. What's with the seller selling a bike that's virtually new? Do you know anything of its history? Little old lady who only rode it to church on Sundays? Sounds like you got a fine deal.
My guess is you'll be having some fun with that.
I've postponed a planned August trip out of China, so I may actually get up to Beijing before the summer is out. Hope so.
cheers!
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euphonius
What's with the seller selling a bike that's virtually new? Do you know anything of its history? Little old lady who only rode it to church on Sundays? Sounds like you got a fine deal.
The shop's story is that the former owner was only around 1.68 tall so to small for the bike which makes sense since the back suspension of the bike has been modified (don't know how to describe in english: the back suspension can be lowered with a screw. You probably know what I mean) and is way down. So they will have to raise it again for me.
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Please try to confirm this story. With such low-mileage bikes on the second-hand market, there's always the suspicion that the odometer has been tampered with.
Again, sounds like a great find and I'm excited to hear more about this bike. Wish it had double the displacement, but if you are in the neighborhood of 80kg or less, it'll be a really excellent starter bike -- very light to hold up when you find yourself compelled to put a foot down, and very forgiving when you drop it (as you will). Be sure to get some metal-spined wraparound hand guards so that when you do drop the bike you don't snap off the levers.
Good to know it has an adjustable suspension, as do our bigger Jialings.
Finally, is it safe to assume that this bike is NOT C3 compliant, but is can be legally registered because it qualified in the pre-C3 era and is a second-hand transfer? Or is this bike also C3 compliant, as the JH600 has been since late 2010?
Best thanks!
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Yes, I have seen the fapiao, it is only two months old and was bought at the same shop. It fell one time on the right side. Just two small scratches on the plastik and a dent brake bar. Checked it as carefully as I could (only forgot the spokes and the rims) and did not find anything wrong with it. Odometer works.
Can't decide on the hand protectors. I was going for this: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=10926146590 as they are probably easier to put onto the bike.
Or would you reccommend something like this?: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=6917312647 (sorry, don't know how to get rid of the highlighting)
I was shzing away from these as they require some messing with the accelerator handle and maybe some shortening of brake/clutch handle
The bike has a C3 sticker. I think all the 150cc bikes have one now.
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The handguards several of us in Shanghai are using are these, which are a very good copy of the Acerbis guards that Pfaelzer installed on his JH600. They have a very strong aluminum backbone, but the installation hardware -- particularly the part that clamps to the bar inside of the brake levers -- may not fit all bars, so you may end up finding a mechanic to do some milling for you. My set came with little plastic windshields that can be bolted on separately. I've not dropped the bike since installing, but I'm very confident they will protect both my hands and my levers.
A well-spent 80 RMB.
cheers
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euphonius
The handguards several of us in Shanghai are using are
these, which are a very good copy of the Acerbis guards that Pfaelzer installed on his JH600. They have a very strong aluminum backbone, but the installation hardware -- particularly the part that clamps to the bar inside of the brake levers -- may not fit all bars, so you may end up finding a mechanic to do some milling for you. My set came with little plastic windshields that can be bolted on separately. I've not dropped the bike since installing, but I'm very confident they will protect both my hands and my levers.
A well-spent 80 RMB.
cheers
I see, so something like my second choice. Tks for the counceling!
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It was our colleague Milton who ordered my set for me, so he'll be the best source for which taobao vendor provided them. I think that vendor was recommended by ChinaV, whose word is gold in these parts. There does seem to be a wide variety of the quality of these knockoffs, so it's worth doing your homework.
cheers
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I passed the driving test on monday but my sweety put her foot down in the figure of 8 so she is "invited" to go there next friday again.
What was a real bummer is the fact that the actual licence won't be ready for pick-up before the 9th or even the 12th.:taz:
So I already had to scrap my first :riding:out on 6th/7th. It is going to be a hard time fighting the temptation to just pick-up my plated bike and start riding around...
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seems that's Tom with the Jialing ride ...
congrats for the bike and license - fell freee to join one of our next rides with the CJ's
thomas
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And that seems to be Tom:lol8:
Thanks and will let you know when I actually have the license in my hands...
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HaHa! Got my license and my bike yesterday!!:clap:
Took me more than five hours to run to the drivers school which is in the far west and then back to the shop wich is up northeast and then riding back through rush hour traffic to my home in the center of town. I have to say: riding in rush hour traffic sucks big time!:gun_bandana:
At the shop nothing was prepared even though they called me twice the last three weeks to tell me the bike was ready to be picked up. But the broken break lever was still not fixed, the new air horn was not on the bike yet, the plates were not on the bike and all spare parts I had ordered were still not in the shop. TIC
Anyway, will take out the baby (still couldn't decide on a name) for a ride in the mountains on the WE and than I can elaborate a little more on handling and performance.
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Great news, Fahni! Days like this you realize that Beijing is actually the size of a province. Riding in town is not for everyone, but in a vast city like Beijing, which has lots of roads, all of which are constantly clogged by traffic, a little nimble (and narrow) motard like the JH-150GY-3 will mean real transport empowerment.
All the TIC aggravation will soon be a thing of the past!
Congratulations, and very much looking forward to your ride reports and reviews of this bike.
cheers!
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Thanks! I am really happy that all worked out in the end.
But for downtown transport I am going to rely on my trusted ebike. No helmet requirements, no gear shifting, no noise and because it is not registered, I am at much more liberty which traffic rules to obey and which not. And then, with the ebike there are no 京A/京B issues which is important for me since I live in the very center of BJ. (well, not ZNH but close:icon10:)
Yeah, will keep all of you posted on what this little beauty is capable of. I am sure filipu, whom I met picking up his (the same model) bike yesterday, will also contribute.
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Ditto man - congratulations on your success. I hope your sweety gets her DL soon, as well. Trust me, it creates a "harmonious domestic society" when the little one isn't left behind, or isolated on a pillion seat.
Re BJ traffic - I sold my 4-wheels. E-bikes, scooters & little 125s are the ONLY way to go!
When you guys are up & running, let's head out on our pack of <200cc bikes ... the Happy Kitties Motorcycle Club (99%'rs) may get off the ground yet! We can even have a club tattoo (lick & stick type, of course, because needles hurt too much).
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Cheers, mate! Thanks for all the infos along the way!
The sweety passed the test, only a matter of days until she can pick up the doc.
We'll be going on a short test run to Baihe tmrw, complete with camping gear and all. But I would be more than happy to have a rideout with the happy kitty riders the next time! Shoot me a message if you got time next WE (20/21).
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Hi All
I have arrived in BJ from Shanghai and looking to get a bike here.
I have seen a couple of cool looking QJiang 150's on the road and like the look of this bike looks like the bigger Benelli
I have only so far seen them on Beijingriders website but wonder if any of you guys can help with where i can buy one in Beijing?
Also what about plate?
I have a C1E license so is that ok for riding in BJ?
Looking for some advise
Cheers
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I have a C1E license so is that ok for riding in BJ?
I can't speak for the bikes in Beijing, though there are a couple of riders -- fahni and filipu -- who recently bought the little Jialing JH-150GY-3 motard, and are putting it through its paces right now.
The C1E license is good for two wheels and four, but not THREE (no sidecars).
Keep us posted!
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Thanks I sold my Car in SH and had my license from UK including Bike license translated when applied for it there.
I really wanna get a bike here prefer street bikes but no too bike or expensive and think JH-150GY-3 fits the bil.
Miss my Aprilia RST that sits unused back in UK:-(
Be grateful to hear from any BJ guys for advise
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Astroboy66
Hi All
I have seen a couple of cool looking QJiang 150's on the road and like the look of this bike looks like the bigger Benelli
I have only so far seen them on Beijingriders website but wonder if any of you guys can help with where i can buy one in Beijing?
Also what about plate?
Hi Astroboy, welcome to Beijing!
I have seen the QJiang at the BJ Riders shop. It looks pretty cool. My gf is eying one of those, too. Would be a little bit to small for my 1,85 m body, though. I don't know any other places who sell them in BJ, but it might be worthwile to look around coz BJ Riders are a little pricy. And after sales service is also very chinese...
The little Jialing I bought is also ok. Just put her to her first test and will post my experience in a minute.
C1E should be fine for two and four wheels.
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So, I just put my first own 320km on the bike and as promised, I want to sum up my impressions of the Jialing JH150GY-3:
The disclaimer: This is my first own bike. Before that, I was only riding small 110cc bikes around a little vietnamese island and I once rode a CJ650 sidecar. So take all my assessments with a grain of salt.
Generally I am happy with the bike. Even riding two up with luggage, the handling is ok. She is definitely no sprinter, more a workhorse. We went to the mountains north of Miyun (Baihe to be exactly) and we had no problems climbing mountains, even accelerating. Top speed could be higher. I did not race her but it seems that the 85 km/h topspeed given on the website is pretty accurate. Handling her on the expressway is also ok, no soft, wiggly feeling in the tail.
Because we made a few wrong turns, we ended up on some VERY bad tracks but once I got the feeling for clutch and gas, it was smooth sailing even on real bumpy trails and through some river patches. I generally love the suspension but that is probably because my ebike has no suspension at all, so I felt like on cloud #9 with this cross bike.
There are some cons, though:
No gear indicator (just a lamp for neutral)
No tachometer
and NO fuel meter, not even an emergency lamp! So we ran out of fuel just ahead of the petrol station and I had to push the bike for the last 500 m.
Reach seems to be a problem as well. Tank volume is around 8 L and the website gives a fuel consumption of around 2,2L/100km so I was expecting to get at least 300km out of my almost full tank. But I just got 260km out of appr. 7,2L. That gives an average consumption of 2,75L. Then again I was riding 2 up, in the mountains and my gear shifting probably still leaves a lot of room for improvement.
Brakes seem fine but I will do some more thorough brake testing when I am alone and have some secluded road for me.
For the price and considering that there are no bigger displacement bikes ready for registration, the bike is a good deal. But I still hope, that ther will be some larger bikes available next year.
One more question to the community: After the first day my right wrist hurt like hell, I almost could not use my right hand. Today after riding back, it is a lot better but still not ok. Is this normal? Any suggestions what to do about it?
Cheers!
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Nice report 320km's is not a bad run I wonder how comfortable the seat was after your ride out;-)
Gear lever indicator is not an issue for me fuel light is more important is there no reserve tap on the bike?
Tacho would be also nice i guess but smaller cc bikes usually end up just using as much power as you can get before you need to change up and then eventually run outa puff.
Can anyone give me location on Beijing riders showroom Im still kinda new to BJ so any landmarks or the road intersection would be great thanks
Also what advise can anyone give me on getting a license plate? I guess its either costly or difficult ...or both..lol
Green is best colour i have a friend in Uk with a benelli TNT in same colour looks awesome.
I would prefer a bigger bike but to be honest price and practicality come first I saw two BMW's while out today ..nice but could never afford one in China and smaller machines can be just as much fun.
Cheers all