Qlink XF200 motor swap compatable engines

Attachment 4594Attachment 45932009 Qlink XF200 Super moto engine went Kaboom and I want to replace it with a new crate engine and would like to know which 200 cc or even better 250 cc engines will fit in same mounting brackets as stock XF200 engine. Trying to find a wrecked china bike with good engine I can swap out. Would Lifan 200 cc or Zongshen 200 cc fit? All you knuckle buster garage guys give me some input on what has worked for you if you have a qlink 200 enduro or supermoto.

Florida Larry:clap:

Interesting project, and wish I could help with engine selection/compatibility. Someone in this forum will surely have some recommendations. Have you asked Qlink?

What caused the engine to go? Only two years old!

cheers

I am also curious as to what made it blow, because I have the same exact bike... Could you replace with the same motor?

A guy over on chinariders.net just blew the top end on the engine on his new XP200. I knew he was going to have problems by running the s**t out of it. He got pissed at me for suggesting he get a bigger displacement engined bike to meet his requirements when he was asking about the Qlink.

Buy Barnone’s XF200 and part yours out on eBay.

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Buy Barnone’s XF200 and part yours out on eBay.

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Thanks for the mention of my XF,MJH.
http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...obbinsville-NC

That's a bummer, Larry. Your bike inspired my Moose Racing bag purchase!
I'd also like to know what helped it grenade. This is the third one I've recently heard of parting itself out.
As Barnone mentioned, the person on CR's made no bones about running it wide open for long distances on flat ground, brand new and if I recall, he didn't change the oil for a while or something? Bad combination on a brand new motor.
The other one, I saw personally at my CB Guy's shop. It had less than 75 miles on it and already looked like it ran the Hangtown Motocross Classic. It ran a valve right through the piston. It appeared very violent...like seriously high RPMs.
Any thoughts on what may have caused yours to go?

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Attachment 4594Attachment 45932009 Qlink XF200 Super moto engine went Kaboom and I want to replace it with a new crate engine and would like to know which 200 cc or even better 250 cc engines will fit in same mounting brackets as stock XF200 engine. Trying to find a wrecked china bike with good engine I can swap out. Would Lifan 200 cc or Zongshen 200 cc fit? All you knuckle buster garage guys give me some input on what has worked for you if you have a qlink 200 enduro or supermoto.

Florida Larry:clap:

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I have two XF200 bikes and the one above is my ride and running great for now. The one my 17 yr old rides is the Kaboom bike and he likes to run the piss out of his ride. What I think happened is the transmission was binding and making humming noise in third gear prior to it locking up on my son. I think that started the problem and ended up spinning the bearing on the front sprocket shaft. My mechanic said if I could find a drop in motor for $700.00 it would be cheaper to replace motor than pay his labor to take engine apart. I have seen new Lifan and Zonkshen 200 motors for less than $500 delivered and wondered if it would bolt up to my frame. Anyone done this swap? I also am looking for a dr200 suzuki engine that runs to drop in. Any info would be appreciated. The scarry part is my son is riding my bike until I can get his running so time is of the essence. The next window is the ad with pictures of sons Kaboom bike.

This is my sons ride on Craigs list trying to find it a new home and stop the bleeding of my wallet.

Super moto XF200 project bike

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Originally Posted by Cab4less

I have two XF200 bikes and the one above is my ride and running great for now. The one my 17 yr old rides is the Kaboom bike and he likes to run the piss out of his ride. What I think happened is the transmission was binding and making humming noise in third gear prior to it locking up on my son. I think that started the problem and ended up spinning the bearing on the front sprocket shaft. My mechanic said if I could find a drop in motor for $700.00 it would be cheaper to replace motor than pay his labor to take engine apart. I have seen new Lifan and Zonkshen 200 motors for less than $500 delivered and wondered if it would bolt up to my frame. Anyone done this swap? I also am looking for a dr200 Suzuki engine that runs to drop in. Any info would be appreciated. The scary part is my son is riding my bike until I can get his running so time is of the essence. The next window is the ad with pictures of sons Kaboom bike.

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As far as abuse level I don’t think my son went around wide open on redline but I know he road it aggressive and probably a 8 out of 10 for dogging factor. I maintain it and kept oil changed around 1000 miles due to all city driving and a little off roading. Maintenance level is a 9 of 10 so something internal gave out and most likely a quality issue in transmission. The bike turns over with the chain off so maybe a gear jammed and started the chain reaction.

The manufacturer recommends changing the oil every 1000km or 600 miles.

Semi synthetic oils dont need to be changed as often and I used castrol in motor. Oil was just getting cloudy when changed so I felt it was still doing its job. Changing every 600 miles would get expensive and in my opinion be over kill. I did notice some metal in bottom of pan and also saw metal shavings when clutch was changed a few months back. I think maybe transmission gears were not sinced as well as a Suzuki trans and may have caused the lockup issue. Piston still moves easily with motor in neutral.

Has anyone done a motor swap with any other type engine? Trying to figure out a easy and less ezpensive engine other than qlink,

China riders member Fastdoc put a Lifan engine in a Honda XR and also owns an XF200, that’s a good person to communicate with on the matter.

In china your sons bike would get repaired and if the engine needed to be replaced it would get replaced with the same engine they do not have limited access to parts and the prices are not too high. There would be no real good or practical reason to change engine types in china.

This site would or could be useful to source internal parts for the engine maybe…possibly through taobao, but you would have to tear it down and see what failed. You would also have to be able to identify the parts needed.

The service manual for the model does cover rebuilds and is linked on the site.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=662165913

The engine cost $280.00 in china....plus freight

How much would freight cost be to ship engine from china to Tampa Fla. 33710? I priced the qlink parts depot in texas and he quoted me 800.00 delivered to tampa which I cannot justify spending. If I could get a motor for 500.00 delivered I would do it. Anyone know freight cost. Website is in chineese so I am lost as to try to figure out freigt cost.

Cab4less

UPS and estimate the freight based on the weight and distance. You have to use a service to handle the Taobao purchase they are online as agents, they sell the service.

How about a EPA certificate on that engine?

Does Taobao have a english website that I can understand? How do you communicate with them on what you are looking for? Are they like a broker? I think I will order engine if freight is not to high.

Cab4less

Dear Cab4less,

Search this site for posts about Taobao Focus or just browse to www.taobaofocus.com, which is the best known agent. It's all in English and has been used by at least two US-based MCM members to buy stuff off Taobao. Sourcing an engine successfully would be a thing of beauty -- and confer major bragging rights!

Let us know how get on.

Cheers!

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Does Taobao have a english website that I can understand? How do you communicate with them on what you are looking for? Are they like a broker? I think I will order engine if freight is not to high.

Cab4less

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Cab,
I used the English version of Taobao Focus to order off Taobao. Focus is a broker that will charge a handing fee. My biggest charge was the air freight to the USA.
http://taobaofocus.com/order

My ordeal is at
http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...0-Center-Stand


You do need to make sure the engine has a EPA approval or it will be crushed by US customs at POE.

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How about a EPA certificate on that engine?

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The engine is a replacement engine for a EPA compliant model, the EPA certificate for the model identifies the engine with an engine code that same code will be on the replacement engine.

the epa certificate is 9QNKC0.20N2Q-001
the engine code is K166FML(30029444)

The engine is a K166FML (serial number)

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Originally Posted by MJH

The engine is a replacement engine for a EPA compliant model, the EPA certificate for the model identifies the engine with an engine code that same code will be on the replacement engine.

the epa certificate is 9QNKC0.20N2Q-001
the engine code is K166FML(30029444)

The engine is a K166FML (serial number)

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Dear MJH,

Whatever hat it is that you are pulling these amazing data from, it's deep and impressive and I want one.

Still hoping you'll set up a consultancy to sell your services to the Chinese manufacturers. Damn but they could use the help.

cheers

I do operations analytics’ process engineering….http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Edwards_Deming

MJH, Thanks for the info on Quingqi engine. I sent in a request with your info to Focus and await their response with pricing.
Why dont you work out a deal with the webmaster for MCM and China Rider to set you up a link on their site to help other china bike owners who need to source parts for their bikes like a reverse of the orient brokers. You could charge a mininum % per order or a flat fee for small items and handle the process saving everyone time and pain with dealing with off shore brokers. Just an idea tossed out to try to improve the process of getting parts. It could even work into a bulk purchase program for bike owners wanting the same item.
Qlink parts from the texas opperation are expensive. The motor I had quoted from them was $800.00 which is half of the price I paid for new bike with zero miles. I know they bring in bulk containers so freight would be a fraction of the freight on a single engine so you would think they would be less. I think they know most people wont take the time or effort to chase down supplier and part numbers so they price items with massive profit. A stateside broker service would probably help to bring cost down on china parts. Cab4less

Good luck keep us posted….I think finding items on Taobao is best suited for a person well versed in Chinese and is knowledgeable in the products. That one person should set up a paypal account and then do the search and anyone or everyone contributes for support. Setting up a site to sell items could be done, simply offer an interface that allows Taobao agents to list some items they have in stock. The same person that attracts the taobao vendor should manage the links and also get the fees collected.

I would say engines, wiring harnesses, light, meters rims, tires, braking systems…..carburetors, but also some sort of specs are needed….to insure people get what they want.

I think Taobao has lots of stuff, enough to customize say a 1970-1975 Honda?
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...1157046065.jpg
an SL100 with a 200cc Lifan engine

There are lot of old bike out there with frames that basically are titled frames, that can be modified, this one only got an engine, but could get more.

different suspension but could look like this, with certain pieces and parts.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/honda223.jpg
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=5741311211

Rims, tires spokes, front brake, new gauges, rear springs…it could have electric start and full instrumentation that the Loncin 223cc would support.

I can find many of these for a few hundred dollars.

could look more like this
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...CO/ROCO250.jpg

XF200 engine freight from China very high. I got price back from Focus and the $300 engine cost $550.00 in freight which is more than Texas Qlink price. Either was to high to justify buying so I found a local guy that does hobby mechanical work at great prices. I dismantled bike down to engine bolts and he came by and help me disconnect it and he took it to his shop on saturday. On Monday he called and said it was good news that only 3rd gear was chipped up and a bearing on counter shaft. My guess is $100 in parts and $100 for mechanic and everyone is happy. I do the grunt work stripping down bike and then putting it back together once engine is done. I am glad I didnt listen to the first mechanic who said it was to damaged to fix without even looking at motor. The really good news is now I get my bike back from son while it is in one piece.
Below is a picture of sons bike with new blue paint job.

Cab4less

Great news on the engine rebuild, cab4less! You are now entering another dimension -- the dimension of user-serviceable low-cost Chinabike repair. You might consult with the guy about other stuff he can do while he's in there, particularly stuff like bearing replacements.

Not surprised about the expensive freight for shipping an engine from China, and glad you've dodged that bullet. It's good intelligence for others in this forum to know how much to expect to pay for a replacement engine. If there were more of these bikes in the US, someone could consider setting up an online aftermarket parts business like that UK outfit Chinese Motorcycle Parts Online. Won't get rich, but with more and more chinabikes in circulation, most of them imported by fly-by-night companies, it could be a decent niche.

Let us know when she's back on the road -- and maybe explain to that 17-year-old why some of the numbers on the tachometer are in red!

cheers!

That is good news...

Unfortunately importing a single engine is expensive, the weight and cost is prohibitive. At least through Taobao it is, however importing an engine or motorcycle that is exactly the same as any existing conforming model is permitted.

Here is form that is used to import under such circumstances.

http://www.epa.gov/oms/imports/forms/3520-1.pdf

Here is a link to the regulations and related import exemptions.

http://epa.gov/otaq/imports/420b11015.pdf

Still no takers on what bigger engines would fit?

I was looking into the SSR XF250 as a replacement for the XF200 motor any ideas if it will work?