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alright people, i have a ccm tl125 but cant find parts for it anywhere, i think the bike is the same as a kinlon sm125, the plastics that are currently on the bike are from the kinlon and i need to know how i can get hold of more parts as ive had a few problems with it since it was stolen and recovered (with alot of damage done to it) if anyone with a good knowledge of bikes can help me please reply to my post, thanks :icon10:
Dear ccm,
Welcome to the forum and it's a fair bet that someone in your neck of the woods, or somewhere in our global tribe, will have the answers you seek.
There are few things worse for a rider than having his ride stolen, but you are in that tiny minority with the great fortune (or perhaps bittersweet, considering the damage) to get theirs back -- and surely therein lies a story worth telling. I hope you'll find a time to tell us the story, and better yet with before and after pix. Indeed, some pix might help members to come up with creative ideas for bringing your Kinlon back into optimal health!
Cheers!
what's the WMI (1st 3 letter) of VIN on ur bike. When we knew who made it, the chance of finding similar parts are greater.
hey again, yeah i have a few pics il upload them as soon as i get a chance for everyone to see, its not looking too bad now i could really do with some plastics though haha, the first 3 letters of the vin is LLC, i have the rest of it should i post that or would it not be wise? lack of knowledge in this type of thing "/ cheers for the help aswell people
Chongqing Kinlon S & T Group Co., Ltd. found out thats the manufacturer of my bike so i guess it is a kinlon after all, ive also uploaded a pic of my bike before it was stolen and damaged if anyone can send some links or contacts to anyone that will be able to help me further that would be great, thanks again :)Quote:
Originally Posted by humanbeing
LLc is Loncin. The 4th digit L=Loncin K=Kinlon
the doemstic Loncin LX150GY-10 seems similar to ur config. If can't find via UK importer. Ships from China is the last option (there's a forum member lives in CQ, he may helps u)
http://shop62095041.taobao.com/?sear...&queryType=cat
actually that is not yours...
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=10766309567
thats yours but I cannot seem to find any body parts for it, is that what you need.
the 4th letter is Y, thanks for your help hopefully i will get somewhere with this bike, i have thought about just getting rid of it but it is a great runner so this is a last attempt to see if i can get anywhere with this bike im hoping people on here have the answers i need, yes its the body parts i need thanks again
you could try http://www.chinesemotorcyclepartsonline.co.uk/bikes.php might need to look abit further to find a rebadged bike thats the same
theres also http://www.motorbike-warehouse.co.uk...ils.php?pid=24 they sell the zennco SM 125 which is the same bike but not sure if they could help you with body parts perhaps but always worth asking
ive been searching for similar bikes and so far theres the ccm tl 125, ccm sm 125, kinlon sm 125, loncin lx150gy, jl200gy-2c
since then ive been generally browsing from a wide range of bikes and heres a list of similar bikes ive found, kaisar 125gy, pulse adrenaline 125 and zongshen arktix 125, im not sure if the parts for these bikes will fit and to be honest dont wanna risk them not fitting after forking out the money, more advice needed please and thanks :D
If the Adrenaline looks like a close match, you could check with any of the many Adrenaline owners in the UK. Many of them post in this forum.
cheers
ive found a website supplying them for a different bike but exactly the same its a zennco yb125 but the website doesnt have prices so i emailed them the other day but no reply, ive spoke to a man from ccm on the phone and he says they dont have the plastics in for my bike so i asked him to see if theres any other body kits that will fit my bike, waiting on him ringing back some time today, also when my bike was stolen they smashed into the ignition which has left me with just a switch attached to the wire, my lock key fits in nicely so ive been using that but if i was to get it replaced im not sure which part i would actually have to order, is it the ignition barrel?
sounds like it should be a new ignition barrel with 2 new keys since the new barrel will not match the keys you have atm
yeah i spoke to the guy from ccm again and hes said it would be a full ignition replacement thats £80, would there be a cheaper option or would i have to do that, i know its not that expensive but my bike is in a state so im wanting to budget myself, uploading some pics to my album now it seems to be taking a while, if anyone has any ideas for small mods i could do (with explanations on how to do it) to make it look good it would be appreciated :) thanks oh and incase you havent guessed im not very confident when it comes to mechanical stuff!
£80 is pretty expensive for a chinese built bike, you dont have to go directly to CCM for a ignition barrel as the only thing it does is allow the bike to be switched on a firend of mine when his bike got stolen just installed a flick switch that he could hide in the headlight so that no one could steal it again.
a CDI change could allow a small increase in performance its mostly just take a few panels off to uncover the CDI and plug a new one in and play about,
bigger kets in the carb could get the mixture from a really lean mix to a more performance orientated richer mix allowing more fuel into the air/fuel ratio this does require taking the carb out of the bike just search around the web if your going to do this for suitable jets theres plenty of articles on how to do this especially from guys who mod geared 50cc's.
thats the cheap option for the carb but just getting a proper genuine carb from a well named manufacturer would have a big increase in how it runs for example a pit bike running a chinese copy of a mikuni tuned to be as effecient for power as it can be will still be lower powered than one with a proper mikuni thats not even been set up well just quality of matter in this case.
ok i think id rather get the full carb, but how do i know what to look for when im looking for one like what will be a good choice of carb that will fit and upgrade the bikes performance?
jsut getting a bigger mm carb will increase the performance allowing more fuel to it but everything has its limits as if you go to the point where its chucking in the same amount of fuel as when its got the choke on per revolution you'll loose performance from the smoked and not enough air in the mixture its best to get as closed as possible which is suggested at 14.7 air to 1 of fuel sort of like mixing squash not too much of the expensive stuff. the biggest carb iv heard of being on a 125 is a 30mm keihin thats on my bike but its pumping out 20.1bhp and only gets 66mpg so it wouldnt be as needed on a air cooled bike since your engine is based off a CG 125 you could get a genuine honda carb for any of these honda 125's CG, CB, XR, CBR(early model) aslong as the inlet matches up the carb to the cylinder all should be good with some fettling.
but if you want it to be richer easily without having to mess witht he carb too much you can get a honda CRF150 mikuni carb for the earliar air cooled model since its designed for allowing more fuel too a bigger capacity bike that'll be used for offroad performance.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Carburetor-125...-/220716431145
would that be any use to me?
also where would i look for a cdi?
that carb aint bad does at that size you will have to change the jets abit to your needs be it efficientcy cheap to run bike or performance but the engine will get hotter from the more fuel being pumped in bear in mind.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-DIRT-PRO...item2ea40f87c3 something like this could work jsut make sure that it has the same connection number of pins and fitment as the standard one on your bike and not to revv its nuts off even though its unlimted the more revvs you give it the quicker it will pop
does that mean i should maybe just try something a bit smaller to be safe? and is there a way of finding out if itl fit by like spec on an internet page or something without having to go look at the one on my bike first?
its best to find out what your running orginally on the bike might be 18-20mm so a 22-24mm might be more suitable carbs are pretty much useable on any bike as long as they have a correct adaptor to fit the engine tbh the only info i have on your bike is from a friend who had one last year and that did blow and he did have to do quite abit of work to get her running well.
ok thanks for the help bud, could you have a look at the pics iv just uploaded of my bike aswell theres alot of advice i could do with about getting it sorted, cheers :)
if i was you i would sort out the rust abit just abit of WD40 to remove it wipeing it off properly and just a tin of hammerigth will protect the parts but the exhaust would need special high temp paint for it or could just swap it for a better one allowing the bike to breathe abit better . the carb looks like a standard chinese made unknown brand typical to air cooled engines jsut getting specs for that would be hard. one question if your bike has kinlon plastics already can you not get another set for it?
i havent rang kinlon direct i will do that tomorrow as they will be closed now i have just searched online for plastics, i should recieve an email from a site with zennco parts tomorrow with prices and to be honest i want to change the pipe and exhaust as they are horrible and i think the pipe is beyond repair, although im not sure how much this would set me back pricewise
aha yh the exhaust would take allot of cleaning and prepping to get to a alright state i would suggest a stainless steel down pipe atleast after a while it turns to a light copperish colour with teh heat cycle colours at the head that looks quite nice or a fully chromed one but a chromed exhaust can still rust
you couldnt advise me on any particular pipe/exhaust combo to get which is suitbale for my bike could you? sorry if im being a hassle i just want alot of references for when it comes to doing all the mods to my bike instead of last minute internet searches cause il end up doing something wrong haha thanks again
ahh thats no problem mate atleast someone is asking for my opinion for once where normally steer clear since im a motorsport engineer i like to know the facts and figures of things.
exhaust wise i would say theres a high price to pay for performance and quality im just glad my DEP exhaust was free from the dealer a fault in the original silencer that needed to be recalled. depends what look your going for on your bike personally on supermoto's i like a low underslung exhaust sadly i couldnt do this on my bike. on yours a Cg125 reace exhaust could work but they are nromally excessively long but they come in one piece no seperate downpipe or silencer there. DEP and FMF are probably the best exhaust you can get there designed for the CRf 150 but there over a good £300 usually, this big gun exhaust could work but it does look abit generic for a dirtbike pipe
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HONDA-CRF150-C...item588edccdf1
one thing if you get a free flowing race pipe is to remember to keep off the revvs as soon as you see a copper car cos if they see a exhaust missing the CE stamped mark your pretty much screwed over atm im trying to find something to hide whats stamped on my exhaust "for race use only" but if you keep within the 95db limit you should be alright.
these exhausts are made for honda use's but any exhaust can be adapted really its just where they are bolted to the engine is where it may need some modifying one tip is to get some exhaust putty to stop any gaps allowing gases out to early as this reduces back pressure more than it should
yeah il probably look for a second hand dep one, do i have to get a pipe to match the exhaust or will it just be a case of attaching the two parts together no matter what i get, im guessing they will have to be the right size for eachother to match up but apart from that im not too sure
just had a quick look mate can only find a dep s7 silencer for a small honda which is 96db and £300 so not something id be looking at unfortunately anything else you can add? cheers
yh they need to be relatively the same size diameter tog et a consistent flow in the exhaust but having abit of a blown system can also work having a larger diameter silencer joining section aslong as the transition is smooth.
if your looking for a cheap second hand one you could try and find a SMC Yb 125 SM ehxuast fully chromed will definitely be better quality than your standard exhaust or try and find a exhaust for a early model Honda XL 125 the single cylinder model not the new varedo v twin one