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08-20-2011, 01:44 PM
kitia

Hello.

Hello I am new here, but not new to bikes.

I have been riding bikes since I was a kid and my last bike back in 1984 was a Yamaha 600. I have not ridden since then, but now I want to resume biking again. I am interested in getting myself a QingQi 200 or 250 trail bike for riding in Tanzania. I hope that I will get a lot of information in these forums. Thank you guys.

Ride on safely!
08-20-2011, 03:01 PM
Kennon

Re: Hello.

hi welcome,

im abit surprised you wont be using the best scandinavian crop enduro bikes husaberg or husqvarna for this, but saying this they are rather expensive :/
there are plenty of threads about mods that cna be done on these 200 or 250cc Qingqi's for comfort, better performance, durability and more importantly parts supply.
08-20-2011, 05:47 PM
kitia

Re: Hello.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kennon

hi welcome,

im abit surprised you wont be using the best scandinavian crop enduro bikes husaberg or husqvarna for this, but saying this they are rather expensive :/
there are plenty of threads about mods that cna be done on these 200 or 250cc Qingqi's for comfort, better performance, durability and more importantly parts supply.

Thank you! I already made some research and found that I could buy bikes here, but as you noted, they are rather expensive. As I said, I intend to use the bike in Tanzania, so it would be relatively cheaper if I bought one in Tanzania or order directly from China. Chinese bikes are a big hit in Africa as they are inexpensive. During my search I also found that QingQi bikes are used in Finland. There is also a forum for the bikes (in Finnish)!

http://www.phpbbplanet.com/forum/vie...um=qingqiforum
08-20-2011, 08:21 PM
Kennon

Re: Hello.

hmmm yh i see your point might also be abit risky on a expensive european built bike out there, aha if only i understood suomi i might be able to read that link ;)

are you looking at cruising around looking ace whilst riding slowly or looking even better thrashing a dirtbike around?
http://www.qingqi.com.cn/en/product_show.aspx?id=91 Cruiser 250
http://www.qingqi.com.cn/en/product_show.aspx?id=90 Supermoto 250 with dual sport tyres
08-21-2011, 06:48 AM
euphonius

Re: Hello.

Dear Kitia,

Greetings and welcome to MCM. You'll perhaps be interested to know you are not our only member in Finland. Check out this thread and this thread and you'll see what a fellow Suomi is doing with a chinabike! (Although sadly I'm unable to see the pictures from here in China...)

How do you get yourself and your bike to Tanzania?

cheers!
08-21-2011, 09:04 AM
kitia

Re: Hello.

Quote:

Originally Posted by euphonius

Dear Kitia,

Greetings and welcome to MCM. You'll perhaps be interested to know you are not our only member in Finland. Check out this thread and this thread and you'll see what a fellow Suomi is doing with a chinabike! (Although sadly I'm unable to see the pictures from here in China...)

How do you get yourself and your bike to Tanzania?

cheers!

Thanks a lot. I intend to order one from China, if not possible, buy one in Tanzania. There are a lot of Chinese bike dealers there mainly for the Sanlg brand, but I have not yet seen any for the QingQi. I would prefer a QingQi Liger though if the price is right for me.
08-21-2011, 09:10 AM
kitia

Re: Hello.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kennon

hmmm yh i see your point might also be abit risky on a expensive european built bike out there, aha if only i understood suomi i might be able to read that link ;)

are you looking at cruising around looking ace whilst riding slowly or looking even better thrashing a dirtbike around?
http://www.qingqi.com.cn/en/product_show.aspx?id=91 Cruiser 250iger
http://www.qingqi.com.cn/en/product_show.aspx?id=90 Supermoto 250 with dual sport tyres

Hello. When I am in Tanzania I work mostly in the rural areas where sometimes roads are sometimes impassable, and a motorbike would be ideal. So in this case a Supermoto Liger would be ideal. For normal and long distance travel I use a Mitsubishi Pajero 4WD
08-21-2011, 11:28 AM
kitia

Re: Hello.

Quote:

Originally Posted by euphonius

Dear Kitia,

Greetings and welcome to MCM. You'll perhaps be interested to know you are not our only member in Finland. Check out this thread and this thread and you'll see what a fellow Suomi is doing with a chinabike! (Although sadly I'm unable to see the pictures from here in China...)

How do you get yourself and your bike to Tanzania?

cheers!

Visited the threads. they are great and like the narrative, though sadly I could not see any photos.
08-21-2011, 11:38 AM
euphonius

Re: Hello.

This is sad news. Moilami seems to have removed his picture collection from the place where they'd been hosted. He's a first rate photographer, and his pix provided wonderful glimpses of Finland and Sweden, as well as his beloved chinabike.

Hope he's not left the forum altogether.

Mikko??
08-21-2011, 01:04 PM
MJH

Re: Hello.

Mikko has been missing for sometime now…seems like that has happened before?

Anyway somebody pointed out once, think it was Human being, who really needs a better screen name, that it is best to buy what most are ridding in a foreign country…then finding those that can support it easiest, since it is what they are used to supporting.

Special ordering from China and shipping to a foreign country is fantasy full, It might be best to find out what is easiest to get there and then also what most buy and go with the flow.
08-21-2011, 02:47 PM
kitia

Re: Hello.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJH

Mikko has been missing for sometime now…seems like that has happened before?

Anyway somebody pointed out once, think it was Human being, who really needs a better screen name, that it is best to buy what most are ridding in a foreign country…then finding those that can support it easiest, since it is what they are used to supporting.

Special ordering from China and shipping to a foreign country is fantasy full, It might be best to find out what is easiest to get there and then also what most buy and go with the flow.

Thanks a lot. There are some brands that are sold locally there for about €800, though they are not Liegers.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-k...252520page.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8...281%252529.jpg

At the moment I am in contact with a Chinese dealer in china who hsa sent me a catalog. I am waiting for him to tell me the price. I have imported stuff from China before, so I think I might be able to import a bike too. Anyway, lets wait and see.
08-21-2011, 03:08 PM
euphonius

Re: Hello.

Moilami originally was shopping for a Galaxy, but ended up finding a Skyteam dealer that seems to have been pretty well established in Tampere.

Here's an ad for the same bike from a Chinabike website in Britain, priced at Euro 899.

http://www.chinesemotorcycledealers....-3SM/400/1.jpg

Looks like a very fun bike.

Oh, and here's a picture of Moilami on the bike he calls Orange...

http://www.suomipictures.info/wp-con...ds/henkuva.jpg

cheers
08-21-2011, 03:23 PM
kitia

Re: Hello.

Thanks a lot euphnious. The bike looks great and the price seems right also (it is in pounds, so it is more than euros). However, It seems the bike is pretty low, or the guy on the bike must be big. I am an average sized guy, about 5ft 7 in weighing around 88 kg, so the bike might fit my size. Still looking around though.
08-21-2011, 05:17 PM
Kennon

Re: Hello.

the skyteam is actually quite a large bike for its size as its designed for a 250 engine the onr for £899 is a 50cc which only goes 45mph so its too slow for anyone over 16 to be riding around on also not the most relaible trying to move such a big bike with a CRF50 replica engine,
have you tried orion in the netherlands you cant actually buy the bikes off there website but given a kind call thay could probably sort you out well with a Liquid cooled 250 bike
http://www.orionmotors.nl/shop/index...a8fb8c152087fc
08-21-2011, 05:22 PM
kitia

Re: Hello.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kennon

the skyteam is actually quite a large bike for its size as its designed for a 250 engine the onr for £899 is a 50cc which only goes 45mph so its too slow for anyone over 16 to be riding around on also not the most relaible trying to move such a big bike with a CRF50 replica engine,
have you tried orion in the netherlands you cant actually buy the bikes off there website but given a kind call thay could probably sort you out well with a Liquid cooled 250 bike
http://www.orionmotors.nl/shop/index...a8fb8c152087fc

Thanks Kennon. Will check them out.
P.S. ...though not so much information on the site.
08-21-2011, 07:59 PM
MJH

Re: Hello.

Toyo's website is not so well maintained.
http://www.kishenent.com/?od=index

Toyo Service Camp?
08-21-2011, 08:03 PM
Kennon

Re: Hello.

ahh yh not the most detail but anywho here is apollo/orion's official cn website mostly just facts and figures about the bikes but allot more images to show them i saw one of these Orion RX 250's whilst i was out in hong kong recently look actually quite well put together
http://www.apollovehicle.com/
iv heard some pretty good things about this engine but if you want abit more care free 2 wheeled motoring it is possible to get it with a Zongshen air cooled 250 engine like on this australian website
http://www.atomik.com.au/dirt-bike/e...-xr-250cc.html#
08-21-2011, 08:33 PM
Kennon

Re: Hello.

forgot to mention one of the best chinese bike built thats exported around europe its got some real good praise about it even from UK motorcycle newspapers
the shineray XY250GY-2 its engine is based on a older CRF-250 engine so it can handle being thrashed plus the offroad usage its quite expensive but still its probably the best quality out there for a chinese built bike but i know even teh supermoto is to tall for me to be comfortable and im 5.75 ft but im still only 18 so im a few stone/kg lighter that might make all the difference to how you feel on the bike
http://www.stoewer-quad.de/epages/61...ducts/XY250GY2
this is the supermoto model but it does come in enduro form as the other pictures show a set of offroad biased sprockets and wheels
08-25-2011, 08:59 PM
moilami

Re: Hello.

Quote:

Originally Posted by euphonius

This is sad news. Moilami seems to have removed his picture collection from the place where they'd been hosted. He's a first rate photographer, and his pix provided wonderful glimpses of Finland and Sweden, as well as his beloved chinabike.

Hope he's not left the forum altogether.

Mikko??

Hello! And sorry for the broken links. I changed the domain and stuff linked on the old domain got broken.

As for now, below are links which show pictures. I will fix links here later on.

http://www.suomipictures.info/?p=80
http://www.suomipictures.info/?paged=9

Have fun everyone (with your life)!
08-26-2011, 04:57 PM
kitia

Re: Hello.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitia

Thanks a lot. There are some brands that are sold locally there for about €800, though they are not Liegers.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-k...252520page.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8...281%252529.jpg

At the moment I am in contact with a Chinese dealer in china who hsa sent me a catalog. I am waiting for him to tell me the price. I have imported stuff from China before, so I think I might be able to import a bike too. Anyway, lets wait and see.

I found another dealer selling bikes with a brandname of 'Cruiser'. The picture is of a Cruiser 150GY

http://www.cruisermotors.biz/images/..._product_5.jpg
08-26-2011, 05:01 PM
Kennon

Re: Hello.

thats a Zongshen build motorcycle thats also available as a 200cc
http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...highlight=Tmec
08-27-2011, 02:53 PM
kitia

Re: Hello.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kennon

thats a Zongshen build motorcycle thats also available as a 200cc
http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...highlight=Tmec

The dealer that sells the bikes in Tanzania has a partnership with the Jiameng Hualong Gateway company that makes this off road bike HS150XL. What type/make of engine is used on this bike? I am interested to know because I intend to buy this bike, and if I get any issues, it might be easier to troubleshoot and get advice from the forum.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-u...7082011303.jpg

The above picture is from the Alibaba website. (Sorry about the dimensions, I had to take a photo from my widescreen pc monitor)

And below is the bike sold in Tanzania:

http://www.cruisermotors.biz/images/..._product_5.jpg
08-27-2011, 07:43 PM
Kennon

Re: Hello.

i think the top picture may be from another manudacturer as you can see the clutch case is different but that might be the only difference both being either CG.CB honda replica engines
i think this website could be very helpful it has allot of dirtbikes for sale information about manufacturers and supplies
http://www.chinamotorworld.com/

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