Jialing JH-150GY-3 impressions

Following Euphonius advice, and to keep me busy not to open new threads that already exist on this forum I will try to share with you some impressions of my Jialing JH-150GY-3:clap:.
I'm sure fahni will join. :naughty:
I bought this bike at the dealer beijingriders.com . Price for a new bike is 7800 plus B plate registration and insurance 9400 in total. I'm not sure what is the factory price of this bike, I was so desperate to have something to ride that I just decided to buy it. Availible colours: blue, black and red.
Here is the specification from the offcial web page:
http://www.jialing.com.cn/newjl/cn_w...productid=1031

Can't say much about it, except the fact you can ride it faster than they say. I did a bit over 100km/h on flat road.
Before I bought it I was crazy about Long March that you cannot register in BJ at the moment. I was considering JH600 also, as I thought 150ccm will be too small for me (195cm hight) but as I asked one of my bike experienced friends what should I buy he suggested me scooter R9 for the beginning. That was a bit less than I expected, much less, so when I've found fahni's post about JH-150GY i decided to see it and try it. It felt good!:wheelchair:

I didn't ride since I did my motorcycle course a year ago and way home from the dealer was a nightmare but after the ride next day everything was fine.
I'm glad I don't have a more powerfull thing for the beginning because I'm sure I would try soon what it can do. The 100km/h is a safe limit for me now. The bike is light, enough powerfull for one person mountain climbing. I can get everywhere I want, so I explore all the side roads, abandoned coal mine areas near G108, and I tried some deep mud last weekend but I'd like to have cubicle(?) tires for that. I like the brakes, still nothing to compare to, but I had a couple of situations now and I feel confident about them.
About the tank, it takes about 2.75l/100km. I thought it should make about 300km but lat weekend I've ended up with an empty tank, on the road in mountains, in full sun, after 250km, but it included some offroad. There is that reserve in the tank but I think it was open (fahni, turen it back to the previous position)
Even if I would buy JH600 next year I'd like to keep this bike because it's fun.
The only thing I don't like is speed over 80km/h on a highway, it doesn't feel secure, but it wasn't made for this.
I'd be happy to give it to someone experienced for a try. I think there is something wrong with it know, it makes some sound when I add just a little bit of speed, and it feels a bit less powerfull, but it might be my imagination, as I have know idea about bikes, or i just got used to it and it's not so scary anymore.
I'm planning to do about 3000km during next October holidays and I belive it will show how trustable is this bike.

Maybe fahni can copy his impressions here because I didn't want to write what he already wrote.
cheers!

Blue mosqito:

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Hello there, happy to join.

I bought a used one in blue with 1600+ km on the clock (sorry for wrongly saying it was 160 km in another thread). It was 7000 RMB all-in.

I shared my experiences earlier here but copy-paste the text again for convenience:

The disclaimer: This is my first own bike. Before that, I was only riding small 110cc bikes around a little vietnamese island and I once rode a CJ650 sidecar. So take all my assessments with a grain of salt.

Generally I am happy with the bike. Even riding two up with luggage, the handling is ok. She is definitely no sprinter, more a workhorse. We went to the mountains north of Miyun (Baihe to be exactly) and we had no problems climbing mountains, even accelerating. Top speed could be higher. I did not race her but it seems that the 85 km/h topspeed given on the website is pretty accurate. Handling her on the expressway is also ok, no soft, wiggly feeling in the tail.

Because we made a few wrong turns, we ended up on some VERY bad tracks but once I got the feeling for clutch and gas, it was smooth sailing even on real bumpy trails and through some river patches. I generally love the suspension but that is probably because my ebike has no suspension at all, so I felt like on cloud #9 with this cross bike.

There are some cons, though:
No gear indicator (just a lamp for neutral)
No tachometer
and NO fuel meter, not even an emergency lamp! So we ran out of fuel just ahead of the petrol station and I had to push the bike for the last 500 m.
Reach seems to be a problem as well. Tank volume is around 8 L and the website gives a fuel consumption of around 2,2L/100km so I was expecting to get at least 300km out of my almost full tank. But I just got 260km out of appr. 7,2L. That gives an average consumption of 2,75L. Then again I was riding 2 up, in the mountains and my gear shifting probably still leaves a lot of room for improvement.

Brakes seem fine but I will do some more thorough brake testing when I am alone and have some secluded road for me.

For the price and considering that there are no bigger displacement bikes ready for registration, the bike is a good deal. But I still hope, that there will be some larger bikes available next year.

Some updates to the above post:

After-sales service at beijing riders sucks! Ordered some spare parts and after a month they are still not in the shop, yet.

Last week, I went for an oil change, which they did. Then they told me that the bike has no oil filter. Is that possible?

When they cleaned and re-lubed the chain, they sprayed chain lube all over the rear brake disk. Asked them to clean it off but the brake is still not what it was before. BTW, I cannot see the indicator carvings in the rear brake pads any more but the pad still looks quite thick. Do you think the brake pad could already be worn down after 2500+ km?

I second Filipus notion on comfortable cruising speed. I think 75km/h is the best speed on the highway even though I pushed her to 90 so far. Handling is definetly nice and last WE I did some offroading with a pillion and it was still ok though very exhausting.

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Originally Posted by fahni

...they told me that the bike has no oil filter. Is that possible?

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Dial the toll free number & complain to Jialing in CQ. :lol8:
The bore & stroke (63.5x 49.5) is SAME as early CRF150F . Basics about small Honda & clones that uses washable "screen" : http://hondacg125.awardspace.com/oil...ge%20the%20Oil

Would it be possible to retrofit an oil filter somewhere?

Can it be lame questions thread? What should be the tire pressure for this bike? 12-15psi?

Where's ur user manual? Chinese uses kpa :lol8:
There's oil screen as #220 saids at http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/t_17030311_11.htm . Try to meet those guy in BJ if had chance.:lol8:

Great idea for a thread, filipu!

This looks like a nice little bike, and given how much dirt you have have around Beijing will be a ton of fun if you can find places you like. There are plenty of paved twisties all around to the north and west of Beijing, but at almost every bend there's the start of a dirt road that probably leads up a pocket canyon, but also might not. Even pocket canyons are a blast on a nimble little bike like this.

Throw on an Adlo top box and you can get pretty much anywhere in Beijing with a place to stow your helmet and gloves faster than pretty much anyone else, given its ability to lanesplit and exploit shoulders, bike lanes, service exits and the occasional sidewalk (no, not recommended, but sometimes essential).

I look forward to following along as you guys put these bikes through their paces.

Thanks for sharing!

@euphonius: lame thread or JH150? ;)
@humanbeing: great links, please more about anything ;)

this chinese forum is great, I was just reading the post about JH600 modifications on MCM and thought I will never know how to do it but these guys do some modifications:
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No questions are lame except those that you don't ask, leaving you at risk of deeper embarrassment or worse.

Tire pressure, for example, is not a lame question to ask.

You might indeed try to hit up Jialing, or your local dealers, for a basic owner's manual for your bike. All that info will be in there.

cheers!

Stolen from chinese forum
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Hi humanbeing, what I wanted to say is that I thought all engines come with a centrifugal oil filter and that this needed to be cleaned/changed at regular intervals. But the guys told me that this is an engine that was designed without an oil filter.

Anyway, thank you very much for this valuable link!

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Hi humanbeing, what I wanted to say is that I thought all engines come with a centrifugal oil filter and that this needed to be cleaned/changed at regular intervals. But the guys told me that this is an engine that was designed without an oil filter.

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They're talking :bs: .
Refer to varouis Honda shop manual / parts manual (if talks to the "right" ppl :lol8: http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/showthread.php?2092) & indepdent REAL mechanic's word if want it in TOP condition :naughty: TiC

great little review here sounds like a cracking little bike same cons as my bike sadly im left with a 6.6l fuel tank and a 128 km fuel range
this is my bike its blue aswell ;) http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...hon-PRP-125-SM

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Originally Posted by humanbeing

Dial the toll free number & complain to Jialing in CQ. :lol8:
The bore & stroke (63.5x 49.5) is SAME as early CRF150F . Basics about small Honda & clones that uses washable "screen" : http://hondacg125.awardspace.com/oil...ge%20the%20Oil

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http://hondacg125.awardspace.com this webpage answers most of my lame questions so far. thanks!

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Originally Posted by fahni

When they cleaned and re-lubed the chain, they sprayed chain lube all over the rear brake disk. Asked them to clean it off but the brake is still not what it was before. BTW, I cannot see the indicator carvings in the rear brake pads any more but the pad still looks quite thick. Do you think the brake pad could already be worn down after 2500+ km?

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fahni,
Did you get your rear brake working properly? If not you could try cleaning the disk and pads with spray on brake cleaner. If that doesn't solve the problem then you must replace the pads since they could be saturated with the chain oil.
Maybe the indicators are filled with oil and dirt?

Hi Barnone,

I did some cleaning and maintenance on the bike last weekend and then rode a couple of km around the city. Yeah, after some offroad the WE before, the brake pads were just completely covered with dirt. So that is ok. After cleaning the disks again and some more breaking, the breaks seem to come back to life. Will watch it closely and change them if it does not get any better.

I just posted my impressions[at 6000 Km] of the JH150GY-2 in the "Chinese bike in Hati" thread.
Overall, great bike!

Saw your review, and I should have put a link to here for the Haitian-based starter of that thread to see the reviews. If we need an extra good word for Jialing 150 enduros, we should look no further than our own 'Crazy Carl.' Buy and watch his video of him riding throughout China. Couldn't get a better endorsement than that!

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=1..._u=jj9kt2665d3

will that work fine on my JH150? did anyone try to do it?
Could someone reccomend me a place where I could ask to check my bike before the holidays? like chain brakes and other things?
cheers

ah ok , they did

http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/t_17030311_6.htm

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Would it be possible to retrofit an oil filter somewhere?

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I've seen kits for Hondas that might work, but it's not needed. There really isn't anything floating around in there. Millions of sm. displacement bikes don't use a filter.
You will be better off spending the money on a high quality motorcycle oil and changing it every 1000 to 2000 miles[depending on useage].

@Fahni, I ve met some chinese riders, they showed me a motorcycle garage, I've met the boss, they said it will be cheap and good. I'm going to have my bike checked on wendesday propably if you want to join. I've bought the sparkplug its NGK brand 4929 DPR8EA-9 if you want to find it on taobao. In the shop it was 55y. The guy in the garage said there is a Jialing factory near his shop so he can easily get the inner tubes also.

It's called Two wheels clan, anyone knows it?

Appearently, this model is very popular in S. America. It's known as the Guerrero GXL125/150.Here is a link to a very long thread about this model,

http://www.psicofxp.com/forums/en-do...gxl-125-a.html

I read the whole thing and the general consences is that it's a great bike. Some riders report 30,000Km to 40000 Km with no problems.
Changing the sprockets is the most popular mod and one rider, who races the bike, reported a top speed of 115 Km/Hr. I believe it, these engines rev like there is no tomorrow.
Adding a slip on muffler is the next popular mod, one rider reporting an increase of 10 Km/Hr with a pipe and rejet. Wishful thinking perhaps, but my bike will pull 10,000 RPM stock and feels like the stock carb is holding it back at that point. I'm think about trying a pipe and a larger carb and shooting for 11,000 RPM. I thinking this little powerhouse can do it.

7000$ ???????? http://moto.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-...-4441-0485-_JM

thanks for news!

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7000$ ???????? http://moto.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-...-4441-0485-_JM

thanks for news!

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Not sure what the currency is in Urugay, but riders reported that the GXL 125/150's were around $1500 U.S. new.
I payed $1350 here in Nicaragua, $500 to $600 less than a new 200.
BTW, One owner converted the power output of the 125cc OHC Jialing to H.P. and came up with 11.5 hp @ 9,5000 rpm. Sounds about right to me.

The Brazilian commercial

While Filipu is still on the road somewhere between Xi'an and Beijing, I want to share my experiences after my first multi-day tour.

I will wirite a RR seperately, so this is only about how the JH-150GY-3 held up. We were riding two up from Beijing to Qinhuangdao/Shanhaiguan with a total distance of around 820 km in four days. Did expressways, small mountain roads as well as nice and terrible Guodaos. The little blue wonder held up fine with only minor problems, one loose rear mirror (after we made contact with a car when maneuvering through a traffic jam) and my air-horn (non-stock) fell off, probably because of vibrations. Some electrical gremlins: sometimes the brake light was on even when the light switch was turned off. Other than that: no problems. I put around 2700 km on the clock so far and can only reccommend the bike to eveyone. The only problem I still have is my rear brake disk but I will have it changed today.

@motomech: smaller sprocket seems to be a very obvious mod. What are we talking about? two teeth less? 115 km/h should be easy. I pushed it to >100 in stock configuration. But then the bike does not feel very safe anymore... I don't understand what you mean with a slip-on muffler and increase in speed. But that might be as much due to not being a native english speaker as to my lack of mechanical understanding...

They offer a 135cc in Brazil?