Rescue organizations in China
Ok don't know if is in the right forum but seeing as the season is getting nearer and people will be out riding again and some will be doing some long rides into some remote parts of China maybe people on here from different parts of China can post details of which organizations to contact if and when we need help in their area.
I am trying at the moment to find who I need to call if I get caught out in the mountains here.It is slow going. But more and more people are accessing the mountains here now if people haven't hurt themselves yet they will soon and they will need someone to help them.
There is a search and rescue volunteer organization here I am told but I am still waiting on the info.
So who do you call in your part of China if it all turns to S**T. Army,Police ,friends,search and rescue? What's their contact details?
Lets hope we don't need to use this info but it is good to have before you leave.As the scouts say "better to be prepared"
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On top of the "emergency card" around my neck (in Chinese & English), my first reflex would be to call the police (110) and/or ambulance (120) in China.
Needless to say, without expecting anything really helpful from them....
Oh, and I forgot : being French, I recorded the mobile phone number of the French/German doctor appointed by the German & French Consulates in Shanghai, who can be called in case of an emergency... It may help...
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Fred
On top of the "emergency card" around my neck (in Chinese & English), my first reflex would be to call the police (110) and/or ambulance (120) in China.
Needless to say, without expecting anything really helpful from them....
Oh, and I forgot : being French, I recorded the mobile phone number of the French/German doctor appointed by the German & French Consulates in Shanghai, who can be called in case of an emergency... It may help...
Just wondering what language you recorded it in. French,English or Chinese.
My Consulate (Australia) is useless.When the S**t hit the fan here a couple of years ago I rang them and asked their advice which was "we are telling everyone to just stay in there hotel.I said I live and work here how long should I not go to work "we don't know" was their reply.Because international calls were stopped my sister in Australia rang the Aussie consulate in Beijing and asked for them to ring me with some pretty important info(She just had a heart attack and needed help)Did they ring me NOPE.
I won't be relying on them for help.
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I meant that I recorded the number, for me or my GF to use it in case we need it, not for anyone else to scroll through the contacts list and eventually call.
No, in China, I wouldn't dream of that... Even the emergency card around the neck is maybe pretty useless here, so...
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Good topic.
Anyone who has done extended, remote tours can't help thinking about the "what if" scenario.
Anyways, aside from the obvious of always riding with a buddy, I think one of the greatest safety features for remote travel is the GPS tracker & a mobile phone.
If disaster strikes, call someone who knows how to log into your GPS tracking website to find your exact location, and let them coordinate the assistance.
If you can't get a mobile signal, well, you've just gotta wait for the first "putt putt" truck to come along and (hopefully) pick up your carcass.
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Well, I know 011 is the police. I've been told that a few times but I'm not even sure I know what I would tell them if I had some kind of trouble.
I've joked with friends, even though it's no laughing matter, that most times I don't know where I am or how I would tell someone if I did and that I don't know how to describe most situations anyhow. I might tell them "I tried to stab person. My stab them all badly. I wait at Jiefang and Xi'an. Please quick come help those person and arrest me."
As a more serious note I do know that there are different numbers for the police, fire department, and medical emergencies, but I only know the number for the police.
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G'Day,
Serious advice, get a decent international insurance that covers EVERYTHING incl. emergency evacuations to a hospital / country of your choice.
Had a very nasty accident involving a H-D and a taxi running a red light on Longwu Road (Shanghai) in 1998 and the total medical bills and other costs over the years came up to 580000 US$ (emergency evacuation, surgery, rehab, surgery, rehab, surgery, rehab, overseas trips, etc., etc.++). Everything was covered by insurance incl. trips taken by my spouse during my surgery and rehab overseas. Decent insurance will cost some serious $$$$$'s but better safe than sorry.....
Ride on and stay safe!
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Lao Jia Hou
Good topic.
If disaster strikes, call someone who knows how to log into your GPS tracking website to find your exact location, and let them coordinate the assistance.
If you can't get a mobile signal, well, you've just gotta wait for the first "putt putt" truck to come along and (hopefully) pick up your carcass.
Who do they call?
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Oh yeah the cops are 110, not 011. Hah, I wonder how long I would jibber at some poor person before I figured that out.
Maybe having some good phrases ready in pinyin would help.
I'm hurt.
I crashed my motorcycle.
My arm/hand/foot/leg is broken.
I'm going to freeze to death.
A farmer tried to poison me with cheap baijiu.
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TB-Racing
G'Day,
Serious advice, get a decent international insurance that covers EVERYTHING incl. emergency evacuations to a hospital / country of your choice.
Had a very nasty accident involving a H-D and a taxi running a red light on Longwu Road (Shanghai) in 1998 and the total medical bills and other costs over the years came up to 580000 US$ (emergency evacuation, surgery, rehab, surgery, rehab, surgery, rehab, overseas trips, etc., etc.++). Everything was covered by insurance incl. trips taken by my spouse during my surgery and rehab overseas. Decent insurance will cost some serious $$$$$'s but better safe than sorry.....
Ride on and stay safe!
Great advice but who do you call to get you out so then you can start accessing your insurance especially if your in a remote area of China which most people want to do.
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bigdamo
Great advice but who do you call to get you out so then you can start accessing your insurance especially if your in a remote area of China which most people want to do.
This I can answer :
- on the bottom of my chinese motorcycle insurance contract I have the emergency number to call in case of an accident : it is already in my phone contacts.
- for the international insurance, I also have their number, and a French SIM card with me, available to swap on my phone in case I need to call.
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bigdamo
Great advice but who do you call to get you out so then you can start accessing your insurance especially if your in a remote area of China which most people want to do.
G'Day,
Mate, your insurance company or any evacuation service associated with your insurance company.
Here is one as reference: http://www.internationalsos.com
Was evacuated after my nasty spill to HK via plane and with the assistance of a doctor / nurse coming up from HK to pick me up.
Accident happened on Friday afternoon and was in HK on Sunday morning, emergency treatment was done in Shanghai (let's not get into the horror story right now), everything afterwards in HK and some follow up surgery again in Huashan hospital (Shanghai) and a private foreign therapist for rehab (18 month).
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I don't even think I can count on my wife.
This is what happened yesterday.
Meet this dude that is interested in my telemark skiing he does abit of skiing but more hiking in the mountains even in winter.Anyways he invites me to go with him and his friends hiking in the mountains bring your skis he says.Yeah I'm interested luckily me thinks go and look first see what the conditions are like don't take skis just go and hike.
Get there look at where we are going and he says straight up there I said that bowl would be good to ski but maybe good avalanche terrain he says whats that.
Anyways get up there 3-4 inches of reasonably fresh snow on a vague trail straight up the mountain you could put your arm out and touch the slope so pretty steep I'm going why don't we zig zag up here, he goes what for, I say this is too dangerous he say nah it's ok, I say what if you slip and fall easily done I said, he says nah that won't happen but if it does you will just slide down the mountain on your back and come to a stop I say I'm out of here.Don't know how he planed to do a 180 and turn on to his back but didn't plan to find out.Anyways they spent the next two hours traipsing over the mountain while I went back to the car.Chinese have no idea about danger even after it hits them.
Anyways I ring my wife and say come and get me these people will be hours I bailed on them.Where are you? she says I am near the cemetery I say.Which cemetery? she says There is only one cemetery in your town I say. I don't know it she says.Catch the bus home she says.The bus doesn't come for another three hours I say.
She did the same thing back home when I came off my MTB and broke some ribs rang her she couldn't work out where I was and I had to walk home 3 kilometers with broken ribs.
She's useless too.
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Usually I didn't ride alone, so there was always someone available to call.
For the times I rode alone, I let someone know where I was going and transmitted my GPS position every 15mins or so by SMS to my server, so people I wanted to know my position, could follow me on Google Maps / Earth.
In remote areas, where it had to be estimated that phone reception could be an issue, I sent additional messages with current and next intended points.
Further I had a large piece of paper in the transparent top cover of my tank bag with emergency instructions in Chinese and English.
I also attended a intensive 3 days first aid course in Europe and always carried a extended medical kit with me.
The course was besides the standard first aid, specialized for road accidents and also covered some basic medical diagnosis / treatment - almost a must for long distance travelers.
Safe riding everyone :riding:
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bigdamo
Who do they call?
In most cases, the first point of contact would be the police. If they have info on the situation, and the precise location, they can probably make appropriate arrangements, or provide local advice. For example, I used to live in a semi-remote area up north, and it was well known that if one needed medical treatment, a taxi was the only way to go. Any other form of medical evac (including an ambulance) was not worth considering. You'd die before they ever showed up. Only a local would know that.
One of the problems with touring around remote areas that you are unfamiliar with, is that you are not really sure where exactly you might be ... aside from "somewhere between where I left and where I am heading." If you're banged up, it is quite likely you are not thinking clearly and logically (hence, the advantage of a riding buddy).
Based on my own extended & remote tour experience from decades ago, I became somewhat neurotic about remote/extended touring. Subsequently decided to get my basic First Aid ticket, to always carry a kit, and even carry bizarre things like a snake bite kit (half the size of a pack of smokes).
IMHO, it is all part of trip planning.
Despite this, a buddy of mine just finished 6 countries in SE Asia, solo, on a Harley (with a fake Chinese plate, no less), over 8 weeks ... traversing several remote areas. Throwing caution to the wind, he tells me he had a blast. Me, the nervous nelly, probably would've spoiled his carefree adventure if I had come along.
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Lao Jia Hou
In most cases, the first point of contact would be the police. If they have info on the situation, and the precise location, they can probably make appropriate arrangements, or provide local advice. For example, I used to live in a semi-remote area up north, and it was well known that if one needed medical treatment, a taxi was the only way to go. Any other form of medical evac (including an ambulance) was not worth considering. You'd die before they ever showed up. Only a local would know that.
One of the problems with touring around remote areas that you are unfamiliar with, is that you are not really sure where exactly you might be ... aside from "somewhere between where I left and where I am heading." If you're banged up, it is quite likely you are not thinking clearly and logically (hence, the advantage of a riding buddy).
Based on my own extended & remote tour experience from decades ago, I became somewhat neurotic about remote/extended touring. Subsequently decided to get my basic First Aid ticket, to always carry a kit, and even carry bizarre things like a snake bite kit (half the size of a pack of smokes).
IMHO, it is all part of trip planning.
Despite this, a buddy of mine just finished 6 countries in SE Asia, solo, on a Harley (with a fake Chinese plate, no less), over 8 weeks ... traversing several remote areas. Throwing caution to the wind, he tells me he had a blast. Me, the nervous nelly, probably would've spoiled his carefree adventure if I had come along.
I am also turning into a somewhat nervous nelly must be my old age and where I live.Hence why I started this thread.
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chinabiker
Usually I didn't ride alone, so there was always someone available to call.
For the times I rode alone, I let someone know where I was going and transmitted my GPS position every 15mins or so by SMS to my server, so people I wanted to know my position, could follow me on Google Maps / Earth.
In remote areas, where it had to be estimated that phone reception could be an issue, I sent additional messages with current and next intended points.
Further I had a large piece of paper in the transparent top cover of my tank bag with emergency instructions in Chinese and English.
I also attended a intensive 3 days first aid course in Europe and always carried a extended medical kit with me.
The course was besides the standard first aid, specialized for road accidents and also covered some basic medical diagnosis / treatment - almost a must for long distance travelers.
Safe riding everyone :riding:
When are you coming back I need a riding Buddy like you.
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I remember reading about Chinas efforts to establish a unified, nation-wide rescue team system months ago. It seems there is no unified rescue service in place. So I guess there is also no unified number. Police or ambulance might be your best bet for the moment. I would always have the number of a person fluent in English and Chinese on speed dial and if anyway possible give this person access to my coordinates via GPS.
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fahni
I remember reading about Chinas efforts to establish a unified, nation-wide rescue team system months ago. It seems there is no unified rescue service in place. So I guess there is also no unified number. Police or ambulance might be your best bet for the moment. I would always have the number of a person fluent in English and Chinese on speed dial and if anyway possible give this person access to my coordinates via GPS.
G'Day,
Remember when China became a full member of the WTO and one of the agreements stated they will accept overseas driving license in ML China? Still waiting after all this years....
Bringing a large sum of cash US$ helps as well during an accident..... $$$$'s always talk in this lovely country.
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Maybe this is the way to go http://www.findmespot.com/en/ when I checked with them a few years ago spots coverage of China was pretty limited now it has expanded to most of China just the west of Xin jiang and the west of big T are a bit sketchy http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=109
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