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Saw this sweet CB50 copy outside our school yesterday.
Engine cover is stamped Jialing.
I don't claim to know anything about it; Chinese Characteristics clearly evident in the construction, but I still covet it.
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...lingBenly1.jpg
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...lingBenly2.jpg
That was a second brand name that Honda's were sold under in the early years.
http://www.theworldofmotorcycles.com...125_motor.jpeg
http://www.theworldofmotorcycles.com...age_honda.jpeg
That may not be a reproduction, could be a vintage restoration?
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z...g101/CD90S.jpg
Hi MJH - I used to own a 1960's Honda, so I am aware of Benly.
This one I saw is definitely brand new. It had about 100k on the clock and Chinese VIN plate.
I guess it is some sort of licensed re-issue.
If that is a restoration
It is a damm good one
The 80s bike looks like this http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/t_17151236.htm
Quite popular in freshwater fishing circle / Project bike donor. http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/view...uthorid=166196
I would like to see the threads….but the server @motorfans seems to have a malicious software code on it?
The Benly models were made from 1946-1972, according to this website.
http://www.theworldofmotorcycles.com...torcycles.html
My guess would be that only the frames original and maybe the head lamb with the speedometer. Its not impossible that the TAGS/VIN are repurposed from another 110cc, one that could be easily plated The frame could have been stripped and welded up and then painted and re-tagged? New standards I thought require the VIN to be etched into the steering collar? But back then the tags may have been riveted on, but today the standard makes them unalterable.
http://www.moto8.cn/thread-213108-1-1.html Another "reborn" using that legend 70cc
YinXiang makes a 175cc horizontal single that has four valves.
It is rated at 13kw?
I wonder if it could be put into an old C100 frame?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fN_XkOXKL8...t+ride+010.jpg
The YinXiang XY110 is imported to the USA, through BMS.
http://www.bmsmotor.com/scooter/prod..._YX_110CF.html
It is not a bad reproduction, but they are are only selling through this site and they are asking too much for them.
http://www.countyimports.com/inc/sde...8__/1089/41867
They should be about $1,399.00 delivered.
I think that I would like to see that Yin Xiang 175cc engine in this frame…
http://en.lybq.cn/userfiles/image/LJ70-C b.jpg
I am even ok with the drum brakes…call me crazy but I would like to have one.
Even with the Chinese name and decals on it.
http://www.lybq.com.cn/
Instead of retro classic they offer these….YUCK!
http://www.yinxianggroup.com/Portals...-YX125-CF2.jpg
I think the Honda Solo is very cool….
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...b2005hw4-1.jpg
http://world.honda.com/news/2003/2030305.html
Lifans 150cc offers 12hp.
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/4/7/8...10197485_o.jpg
The horizontal market is developing faster in the USA then any other, PIT Bikes are the reason why.
These align on that development., that being any offering with a compatible horizontal receiving frame could accommodate these high performance horizontal engines and the parts for them abound.
Is a suspended rear wheel and foot shifter for sissies?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vLquT9t40h...ge521_solo.jpg
Here is another custom, this one off the Super CUB, which is what the XY110 is a copy of.
http://garage521.com/main/wp-content.../IMG_13441.jpg
There are lots of cool little shops in Japan, these are out of Garage 521
At least that it's not a problem. Something that is more or less the same as a motorcycle in the photo, is produced in large quantities.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJH
I know that the market of Russia and Ukraine, because all of their manufacturers stopped producing mopeds, is flooded with these light motorcycles (there they are called "Alpha" ("Альфа")), with 50-110 cc engines, and the price is circa 550 euro. The alloy wheels and a bunch of curved tubes are optional details, but "de gustibus non est disputandum".
Those frames are really too small for many people, the Honda Solo is really good design. Much better then the SACH MADASS
I really favor more towards something new like the Honda SOLO or revision of something old like an Aermacchi Harley Sprint, those were 250-350cc. However they did not have a lot of power. I like to see the Chinese horizontal engines in a version of one lighter and faster.
http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/up...Aermacchi8.jpg
Such a simple design, but its appealing.
http://www2.moto.it/static/annunci/2...0-14814381.jpg
http://www.bridgat.com/files/CHPMOTO_175cc_engine.jpg
It would not take much to make the modern engine look like the old ones, this 175cc has 4-valves and is rated at 13kw also has oil cooling.
These horizontals are all “Starts in any gear” what is that all about? Probably not very practical for a street bike? The gear ratios could that be altered for street use. It seems that the high demand for these pit bike brought about some refinements for that market and none that really are cross marketable for street bikes.
So its not likely to see anyone develop a horizontal of bigger size and power for street use, they will likely stay very small and affordable and very fuel efficient, the later seems to be what most people that want cheap transportation desire.
WRONG! you could always buy a Japanese hi-po engine from Kitaco, Takegawa, Daytona, etc. and they do a supercharged engine now.....Quote:
Originally Posted by MJH
Another option, custom build a Honda Nice 110cc (Thailand) engine (110-180cc / 4-valve optional) with high performance parts, see pics of one of my custom build engines (154cc / 5-speed) attached as reference....
This one looks like a standard Zongshen, with a upper engine a-la Kawasaki KLX and, also standard, 2 valve head. All horizontal motors can be equipped with oil coolers.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJH
Here's a link with an explanation what are SIG and non-SIG motors - http://www.pitbikeclub.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7733Quote:
Originally Posted by MJH
Or, option No.3: buy for half the money needed for the Japanese or custom build engine, Moto Guzzi Nuovo Falcone in good condition.Quote:
Originally Posted by TB-Racing
You know, I am absolutely convinced that we need to start a thread dedicated to horizontal engines. Who is going to "break the ice"?