Jonway "Kung Fu" 250 BMW Clone for sale in the US!

A while ago we talked about a find looking BMW clone Jonway which looked like a prototype bike covered in the MCM ChongQing 2008 report.

I didn't actually believe it would arrive on NA shores but here it is...in a rainbow of colors and badged the 250 "Kung Fu" MC-02 for $1798.00

-Product link-
http://www.atvdiscounter.com/Motorcy...oductInfo.aspx

Specs follow pics....

- Jonway 250 "Kung Fu" MC-02 -
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Statistics:

Engine 250CC,double cylinder,4strokes,air-forced cool
Wheel Base - 57.87
Maxspeed - 70 Max.
Payload mass - 330
Fuel capacity - -11.0L
Brake Type - F: Disk R: Disk
Maximum power - 12.8kw/7800r/min
Net weight - 330lbs
Starting system - Electric
Tyre size - 110/70-16,140/70-16
Bettery - -12V/9AH
Exterior size - 85X30.3X45

CC

330 Lbs = 150KG

That's pretty reasonable for a Chinese 250 twin.

Is that a copy of the Honda classic CB250/CMX250 twin engine? (actually 234cc)

It sure looks like a resurrected Honda engine but I'm not sure. 330lbs is still a bit heavy I think for a 250, but I suppose as long as you aren't talking high-performance riding then it should be quite comfortable.

I wonder if they'll sell?

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I really don't think it's too heavy, if we take a YBR250 as a benchmark at 138KG and factor in the fact it's a got a twin engine. That's 12KG more. For a Chinese manufacturer that is OK. Knowing Chinese the way I do they seem to think the way things look is very important and providing a choice of colors that will never sell, whereas foreigners are running around doing power to weight conversions and looking to adjust shocks and extract an extra few hp and removing unnecessary weight.

But the motards and dirt bikes are much lighter than that, which is why they are so good.

I don't like how they did the two-into-one exhaust or how terribly exposed to damage it is, but it is not ugly. That bike actually looks good in light blue.

It looks like it carries most of its weight high up. I guess it's not too heavy but I'm just thinking a DR650 is only about 370lbs so I'm wondering about the power to weight ratio on it. Regardless, it will be interesting to see how well it sells!

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To be honest it's interesting to look at, but I don't think I'd buy many Chinese bikes unless they were an exported joint venture bike.

The more I look at it the more ugly it looks!

I think all that bulbous stuff up top is an air box, see the fuel filler under the seat, probably carries fuel way down low.

I want one of these for my wife to learn on. pretty cool adventure bike style ride. could farkle it up a bit....

can anyone point me in the direction of a North american reseller?

thanks

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Originally Posted by kojack

can anyone point me in the direction of a North american reseller?

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This is the web page for the US importer:

http://www.sunl.com/productoverviewd...rcycle&pid=299

You can download the owners handbook by clicking on this:

http://www.sunl.com/KUNGFU250-INSTALL.pdf

I have to warn you that I'm also a buggy or go-cart owner and have been reading several buggy forums. SUNL doesn't have a very good reputation, lots of legal hassles, poor service, etc. That sort of thing. You can google something like "SUNL sucks" for lots of negative reviews and complaints.

I think the NA reseller link was in the first post? Unfortunately we've had mixed reviews about them. If you do contact them please let us know you opinion on how it goes in the dealer/distributor section!

http://www.atvdiscounter.com/Motorcycles-24369/4385052-MC-02/ProductInfo.aspx

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Originally Posted by kojack

I want one of these for my wife to learn on. pretty cool adventure bike style ride. could farkle it up a bit....

can anyone point me in the direction of a North american reseller?

thanks

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The SunL Kung Fu's I saw in December '07 in Dallas had VINs that started "L8Y". This decodes as manufacturer Shanghai Shenke Motorcycle Company.

I wouldn't recommend it. Too many inconsistencies in the specs as given by the various resellers:

Branded as SUNL, others label it as CRUISER, others as KUNG FU (stupid name for a start).

Top speed: some say 70 some 80, yet speedo appears to be red-lined at 60 mph. Maker claims 68.4 mph, now that's precise...

Top revs: 7300, others claim 7800 and yet the tachometer is red-lined at 10,000 rpm...crap attention to detail on something so simple...On this site you can also see that although the ignition is off the rev-counter needle has stuck on, on a new bike, that's a good start.

They couldn't even be bothered to remove the plastic protector from the seat for the publicity photos. It's only a trivial point, but it shows lack of commitment to show the bike at its best:
http://texoticmotorsports.com/id22.html

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This dealer also wants $2150 for it, a $352 difference with the other.

They claim it has ABS. It's nothing of the sort. (it's one of those load relief valves that are nothing but trouble. A totally discredited method of avoiding front wheel lock-up, it simply dumps 50% of your front braking effort and at worst can jam up with disastrous consequences).

It appears to be a mass of disparate iron bits (one importer describes ir as "enforced steel" !!) covered up with cheapo plastic panels that we all know are short-lived on Chinese bikes. The windscreen looks particularly dodgy.

They claim that the warranty is "incredible": 12 months PARTS ONLY for the engine, 30 days for the rest of the bike...Parts are the least of your problems if you're a competent mechanic able to do the work yourself. They're cheap on Chinese bikes, whereas the labour charges are the same whatever make you buy.
What they're really saying is that they'll replace a badly-made, sub-standard part that has failed with a similarly badly-made, substandard part.:icon10:

The makers web site: http://www.shenkemotor.com/SKBMW250.html claims 68.4 mph and a gearbox with 5 speeds AND reverse. They even have the cheek to call the bike a SKBMW250 (note the BMW bit) but leave the tank clear of their name to enable any importer to place their own. Curiously they omit to say who makes the engine or give us a engine type number like other makers. This leads me to believe it's not made by anyone reputable, otherwise they would boast about it. I would.

Just my 2 cents worth of gut feeling.

No reason to be shy Forchetto. Just tell us how you REALLY feel. :lol8::lol8::lol8:

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Originally Posted by CrazyCarl

No reason to be shy Forchetto. Just tell us how you REALLY feel. :lol8::lol8::lol8:
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Don't mention it. I'm in one of those vitriolic moods today. Something to do with my abortive attempt to change the final transmission on the Qingqi from 428 chain to 520 and raise the gearing a little at the same time.

It ended up as a dismal failure...If anyone wants to know why I'll tell them, but it was a depressing experience.

Sorry to hear about that. The 200GY's in China have 520's so I'm not sure why they're spec'd at 428 in Europe. :confused1:

Can anyone confirm what the QLinks in the US use?

What happened and what gearing changes were you hoping to make?

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Basically the Qingqi's engine is not quite the equivalent of the Suzuki DR200 as we all believe. At least not in the final transmission components. The countershaft, for example, is from the TS125 range, so the engine sprocket fitting is totally different. DR200 components can not be used.

I'll prepare one of my soporific and long-winded write-ups in a new thread in the "Maintenance and mods" section so as to warn others.

BTW I did see one of these in traffic in Dallas a few months back.

PJ

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Originally Posted by PresterJohn

BTW I did see one of these in traffic in Dallas a few months back.

PJ

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I bet it was someone from SUNL.

Forchetto is correct in his warning (of the SUNL, and the Qingqi, too) in that SUNL doesn't have a good reputation in the US at all (his Qingqi, on the other hand, has a very good reputation, but now one has to worry about changing out the chains...)

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Just noticed the speedo needle is on the wrong side of the pin...ha ha..im staying away from this crate!

LOL...well spotted. Bodes well for future reliability. Maybe the instruments can't stand the G forces generated by this bike and simply explode.