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110cc 152fmh ya another spark question
I just picked up a 110cc 152fmh and it has no spark, but I know what your going to say "ignition coil " I have ordered one it will be here in a few days and can't wait. My question is how can I test other components while I wait on my coil. Stator, source coil, cdi, and rectifier. I believe that the cdi is ok used multimeter on it but not sure i know what i'm looking at. I will post pics soon to better explain. thanks
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Do some carb clenaning, valve adjustment, cleaning and lubricating chain, while you wait. In any case, these jobs would be waiting for you after coil installing.
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Carb is already soaking, going to do oil change and chain tomarrow. BUT I think the coil isn't the problem!!!!! I checked the ignition coil with multimeter and I think it is good.
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I opened stator cover and water came out.:frump:
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So I polished out the rust, and thie pick up spots then checked with multimeter;
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The only one I didn't get a reading on the part i think is called the exciter coil.
Is this part bad? Sorry first time using multimeter. I also checked blue/white wire to CDI for breaks it was ok.
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A man can always learn something new. This is the first time I saw 3+1 coil for horizontal engines.
Thanks, Humanbeing! :thumbsup:
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Not to forget: according to the manual I have for horizontal engines, the primary coil resistance should be between 0,1 to 1 Ohm, and the secondary, with the spark plug cap - 7000-9000 ohm, and without spark plug cap - 3000-4000 ohm.
So Arlie, if manual deceived me, I deceived you.
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One of the maker's specs: http://www.sanxin.com.cn/info5/index.asp?id=20
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Zorge
...first time I saw 3+1 coil for horizontal engines...
China always had those strange gadget
Diy 6V to 12V (ALL DC) http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/t_86356.htm
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The odd things seem to find me.:l
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humanbeing
China always had those strange gadget
Strange or not, this thing produce 90W!
And how much you can get from standard 5+1? Some 70W?
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New stator didnt help! Stator is identical to stock. HOW do I know if CDI is AC or DC. CDI is smaller 5 pin squarer single connector.Attachment 8203Attachment 8200Attachment 8201Attachment 8202:confused1:
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U get at least 1?v if kick start repeatably from source coil ie the "ext" http://www.sanxin.com.cn/Exhibit/exhview.asp?pid=3
AC if it's small. You can also trace wiring if it's using a DC (Got the juice after "rectifier")
the gap btw Pulse coil & rotor is also important to tell the CDI when to make a spark.
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arlie1180
New stator didnt help! Stator is identical to stock. HOW do I know if CDI is AC or DC. CDI is smaller 5 pin squarer single connector.
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the gap btw Pulse coil & rotor is also important to tell the CDI when to make a spark.
Is 0,3-0,5 mm correct gap?
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Thank you for the pics to explain, big help. This may be a dumb question, but does the ignition coil need to match the AC or DC CDI ? Or is it universal?
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I would be surprised if it turns out that there is a separate coil for AC or DC CDI.
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The so called chinese "generic" DC-CDI uses SAME ignition coil as AC-CDI. (电容 type)
The (电感 type) is different animal. For example: Suzuki 125 or the those hi-end "upgrade"
Translate these get the basic idea: http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/t_17374516_1.htm | http://www.sanxin.com.cn/Exhibit/exhview.asp?pid=62
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I have spark :clap: . A previous owner had a DC CDI installed, and it was fried. Replaced with AC CDI, and spark is good. Good enough to zap me :lol8:. Thanks for the help. Still more to do see you next post.
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I'm in good shape now running okay but valves are noisy. So I would like to check the valve clearance but need the feeler gauge sizes. What is the intake clearance and the exhaust clearance? thanksAttachment 13141Attachment 13142
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