CFMoto Jetmax in Minneapolis, Minnesota

I am a new owner of a CFMoto Jetmax. I bought that after my Jonway YY250T was rear ended while I was stopped at an intersection and the driver behind me was looking for opening and not looking at the the road in front of her. The bike appears to have mostly rear and side plastic damage, (I got a sprained finger that won't heal) but I am done with that scoot and the repairs I seemed to be always doing to it, so that why the Jetmax is now in the garage.

The Jetmax is a heavy beast. It seems to have a higher center of gravity than I am used to handling, so I need more time to learn to ride that one.

I am pretty good mechanically, but I am really hoping I will have to do less to this scoot. I already find that I will need to replace a headlight, so will upgrade the pair. I need to learn more about the MP3 player and how to connect it to an MP3 source. There must be some cabling that I am not understanding.

So like I said, I need to learn more about the Jetmax handling, things like with the lower frame height, I can't turn as sharp as I used to with the Jonway.

I will likely be doing more reading than posting here as there is a lot of information and resources I will use to help me out with my scoot.

Don

Dear Vintner Don,

Welcome to MCM! I can envision smoking meat, trading stocks and riding scooters in Minneapolis, but winemaking?? I hail from California wine country, and know enough to stick to brewing beer! What's the story?

As for the Jetmax, you'll surely find no better source of information than our own bikerdoc, whose copious reviews, advisories and other postings on that big scoot you've probably already found.

Would love to see pix of the Jetmax next to the Jonway, and of course pix of the Jetmax in the wild -- perhaps rolling through those Minnesota vineyards!

cheers!

It is very cold in the vinter in Minnesota , but not too cold though to be a vintner.

hey gidday there and welcome aboard the CFMoto Jetmax gravy train. You will find a lot of information about the Jetmax in MCM, but if you have any questions please ask. BTW, the Jetmax also can be supplied with an integrated rear luggage rack, so if you read the forum posts related to the Jetmax you will find the related information. If your dealer can't help you get what you need then I can. It seems that CFMoto in China are not making it easy for their suppliers offshore to source or be supplied with many items that can be bought this side. Welcome aboard and enjoy the ride.

oh, and the thread is useless without photos. As like many other motorcycling forums - no photo and then it doesn't exist.
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jkp
Two Words: Lodi Exports!
One member of our wine club allows us to pre-order grapes. He then brings in about 11 tons of grapes from the Lodi area in a refrigerated truck. I normally make a batch of a Zinfandel and a batch of a Cabernet blend. I generally make 5-15 gallons each, so 2-6 cases of wine from each blend. I should be hearing about the grapes available for order in another week or so and will get them probably mid September.

Doc-I had seen a post about the luggage rack, and I feel the Jetmax is lacking in the area. I may be contacting you for help on that.

I have to come up with a name for the scoot, Jonway was Ming Sue, but nothing has really come to mind for the Jetmax. Maybe Bertha, Big Bertha. She is a big girl and heavy too.

Thanks for the welcome and I hope as I go along I can contribute as well as do a lot of research here.

I expected that those two words would be Riesling and Pinot Noir. :icon10:

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jkp
Two Words: Lodi Exports!
One member of our wine club allows us to pre-order grapes. He then brings in about 11 tons of grapes from the Lodi area in a refrigerated truck. I normally make a batch of a Zinfandel and a batch of a Cabernet blend. I generally make 5-15 gallons each, so 2-6 cases of wine from each blend. I should be hearing about the grapes available for order in another week or so and will get them probably mid September.

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Dude, you are hard core! I thought I was crazy trying to brew quality craft beer in China. Eleven tons is a lot of grapes. How much do you need for a 15 gallon batch (three carboys, I'm guessing)?

OK, and since this is a motorcycle forum and should be kept on topic: Dear MCM members, pleased don't drink and ride -- not even Vintner's Midwestern plonk!

cheers!

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Originally Posted by euphonius

Dear MCM members, pleased don't drink and ride...

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Yes, yes.... don't drink and ride!

Drinking while riding is impractical - you can spill your drink all over you, and there is a problem if you have a full face or enduro helmet.

So, if while driving you feel thirst, stop, have a drink of your choice, and then continue riding. :lol8:

Just a quick note on winemaking, only because euphonius asked.
I buy 36 pound lugs of grapes. 2 lugs make roughly 5 gallons. For some of my blends, I (unlink a winery) blend at the crush by getting 4 lugs of cabernet and a lug of merlot. This gives me about 12 gallons of wine which fits in my stainless steel variable capacity tank. As this ages, I add oak cubes to add some flavor. As it nears completion, I add bottles of wine to create the blend I want. For 'the big five' blend, I have the cab and merlot from the grapes, and will blend in a percentage of malbec, petite verdot, and cab franc. I generally am starting the wine in September and hopefully bottling sometime between March and May, depending on time and wine characteristics.

Back in the early days of my winemaking (I have been winemaking for over 27 years) I would enter county fairs and the MN state fair. I have a nice collection of ribbons (including one from a national competition) but would loose my wine. Now have a little more experience and make better wine. I keep my wine and skip the ribbons.

And the rule is, no drinking and driving the scooter. I also do woodworking and have a very nice tablesaw that has a very sharp and fast blade. Woodworking first, then open the bottle. All my fingers are still in place.

And, since this is a motorcycle forum, I did pick up my license plate for the Jetmax yesterday. I did find out that the MP3 player is a connection for a flash drive. Load music on the flash, connect to the USB port and that is the player. I thought there may be a cable to connect to the 3.5mm connector on my phone so I could listen to I heart radio.

My first gas fill was 53MPG. That fill was at 125 miles on the bike.
I will add a bike speedometer this weekend so I have more accurate speed and will have a trip odometer.
Oh yeah, I will need to clean up my winemaking equipment. I am sure the grapes will be coming soon.

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...I did pick up my license plate for the Jetmax yesterday. I did find out that the MP3 player is a connection for a flash drive. Load music on the flash, connect to the USB port and that is the player. I thought there may be a cable to connect to the 3.5mm connector on my phone so I could listen to I heart radio. My first gas fill was 53MPG. That fill was at 125 miles on the bike. I will add a bike speedometer this weekend so I have more accurate speed and will have a trip odometer. Oh yeah, I will need to clean up my winemaking equipment. I am sure the grapes will be coming soon.

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The USB connection will connect to all types of devices, so experimentation is the key to finding out if you can use your phones ability to connect to radio and stream it over the stereo, or just what will work with the direct connect function of the Jetmax's player device. I use a little portable MP3 player for that. The heart of the Jetmax stereo "device" sits under the dash cluster - just in case you are wondering. Keep in mind that the Jetmax stereo system is a FM receiver so there is the ability to connect devices that can stream via FM frequency. I have a little FM sender device that plugs into a vehicles cigarette lighter, so I have also wired in cigarette lighter extension plugs as a power source. Once this is connected and powered up I just transmsit on a selectable frequency then it's a case of tuning in the Jetmax FM receiver. I have to admit that I have not tried to connect and use my HTC HD2 smart-phones FM radio function, but then I also have several gigabites of MP3's on it that I sometimes play directly through a set of ear plugs or just through the phones speaker, with the phone sitting in a GPS type cradle attached to the top of the dash protected from the elements under the screen. The key with the USB plug in the cubby is that it does supply power as well as act as a data receiver, but only when the ignition key switched on, which is partly why I hard wired in a cigarette lighter plug extension (3 plugs and has a USB plug too).

The Jetmax is a 200 kilo scooter. my CF moto tr650 is the same weight but bigger engine of course. The Jetmax is a long machine... Your storage I believe is good for two helmets and thats about it. I hope you enjoy the ride. mine is smooth and i have had a good first 1000 kilometers...i have yet to figure out why my bright head lamp points to the sky....
welcome to MyChinaMoto:riding:

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Originally Posted by kikikillercat

The Jetmax is a 200 kilo scooter. my CF moto tr650 is the same weight but bigger engine of course. The Jetmax is a long machine... Your storage I believe is good for two helmets and thats about it. I hope you enjoy the ride. mine is smooth and i have had a good first 1000 kilometers...i have yet to figure out why my bright head lamp points to the sky.... welcome to MyChinaMoto:riding:

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Incorrect, the Jetmax is not 200kg, it is 179kg. Mine might be 200kg with all the added extras and a full compliment of tools plus electric compressor I carry under the seat snug in the rear tail section.

This is getting to be a long thread for an introduction, so I will soon start my Jetmax questions and thoughts thread.

But, before I do that, Doc, why do you have a compressor?

And one more thing, my plate doesn't fit. Am I going to need to drill out the plate or the mount to make this fit, or did I get a wrong mount for USA plates?

I carry a compressor on all my bikes (multiple ride choices in my garage and countries too hahaha! long story). Compressor so that if I or anyone of the bikers that I ride with suffer a puncture on a bike, we have air for inflating the tyre after using the puncture repair inserts or otherwise puncture repair. Understand that in China, service stations do not have compressors or workshops. Best policy I've learnt in China is be prepared and self sufficient. Hence tools and compressor. Though the other night I could have done with a spare battery or a set of jumper leads (which were in my garage at home) while I was out for an evening ride at a nearby mountain. Riding along, stop at a waterfall, turn of engine, refreshing splash of water, hop on bike, switch on key, battery dead, starter just clicking. Lesson learnt.

About license plate, ok, hold on a tick.... runs down stairs to garage, tape measure... lah-de-dah... runs back up again... license plates sizes in China are 230mm x 150mm with two bolts near the top edge of the plate 170mm apart. Also legally required to have a plate (smaller and more rectangular) displayed at the front of the bike. Some bikes (motorcycles, motorscooters) will have the plate on the right hand front fork, while some will have a mount running lengthways on the top of the mudguard. Meaning the plate can be read from the right hand side. A few might have the front plate mounted front on by a screen or similar - just depends on what the manufacturer has fabricated.

I talked to the owner of the shop where I bought the bike. He said I either need to drill the mount or the plate to have it fit.
So on Saturday, I am mounting the license plate, replacing a burned out headlight and installing a bike speedometer. The bike speedometer is to provide me with better accuracy on my speed as well as giving me a trip odometer.

The trip-meter, something I commented on in my review of the Jetmax, back two years ago. I can't fathom why with CFMoto investing 25% of their workforce in R&D that they can't get some of the simple things right. I guess that if one of the marketing guys that I met at CFMoto plant in Hangzhou is anything to go by - he was a recent marketing grad, his parents bought him a nice brand new car for his achievement, he got a marketing job with CFMoto (motorcycles) but he had no interest in motorbikes at all. When I talked to him about anything technical and such like especially about the Jetmax it was obvious he had no idea, it was going over his head, and we had to walk to the assembly liine where he had to ask some of the guys working the line what it was I was meaning - fortunately I could point out the issues on partially constructed Jetmax's "on the line". Pity is that the people that should read these CFMoto feedback & reviews probably don't and have no clue what the real world wants or needs... like no centre stand on the 650TR - stoopid! It's a touring bike. OH and still no trip-meter. Just like the Jetmax, no luggage rack in the beginning, and with the pillion grab rail design not such an easy fabrication job. Perhaps the designers thought oh well it has oodles of storage under the seat, so no further storage needed. Now if they were attuned to the bigger picture they'd realise that even the owners and riders of Burgmans and Silverwings of this world install topboxes and in some instances side cases too. That would suggest any smart manufacturer especially one moving into the market would be smart to factor these aspects into the design phase and offer potential buyers more "bang for the buck". There you go, not a huge cost of R&D there! Unfortunately, this is where many (not all, but many) Chinese manufacturers fall down flat, unless they copy or reverse engineer something that already exists. Problem with that is that often there is no improvement, just duplication - warts and all. Just sayin...

Your just sayin and I'm agreein'

Sometime, we will need to PM about the luggage rack. There just isn't enough room to allow me to make a stop after work to pick up things I need at the local hardware store. The helmet, light jacket for ride in to work, raincoat, my lunch pack and thermos pretty much fill up the under seat storage.

Hey vintner, sorry for the late greetz.
As per other posts, welcome aboard. You've found a site that is extremely friendly and helpful. I'm a Jetmax owner in the UK, and my trials and tribulations have been ironed out right here. If you haven't already done so, scoot over to bikerdocs posts - a wealth of info there. I have gone down the route of the luggage rack (thanks to the help from bikerdoc) - all I can say is "it turns the Jetmax into a cavernous beast"... Enjoy the site and your new scoot...

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Your just sayin and I'm agreein' Sometime, we will need to PM about the luggage rack. There just isn't enough room to allow me to make a stop after work to pick up things I need at the local hardware store. The helmet, light jacket for ride in to work, raincoat, my lunch pack and thermos pretty much fill up the under seat storage.

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I hear ya Vintner, a topbox makes all the difference. If you get yourself one that has a quick release from its base plate all the better IMO, though YMMV. Something else to consider though aside from the topbox is a tunnel bag which sits in the gap in front of the seat. There are a couple of varieties specifically made for maxi scoots. Givi make two, one of which is made the Suzuki Burgman 650. I have one and it is great. You could always trip around though and find any bag with the right dimensions to fit in that space, which I laos have done and it cost way less than the specific Givi bag for the Burgman. Aside from the tunnel bag option, I attached several hooks near the cubby door under the handle bars. I also fitted a small "U" bolt just underneath the cubby door lock, then attached a small caribena. I use this for all kinds of extra carrying capacity e.g. the odd shopping bag, or attaching my helmet "D" ring etc. Let me know by PM if you can't get the luggage rack from your dealer should you want it.