Jialing JH600 & JH600B-A Documents for Download

Dear All Jialing Owners or potential future owners, I have just uploaded all the JH600 and JH600B-A documents that I presently have to my Google Drive for anyone and everyone to download here. Since this is Google I'm afraid that you are sadly going to need a VeePeeEn to get access to it.:bs:


At the moment, the breakdown of docs is as follows:


JH600

- English Maintenance Manual, however I AM MISSING Chapters 8, 9 and 14-21. Therefore if anyone has these please pm me to arrange transfer and upload. I know that Euponious is trying already to find them.

- Chinese Maintenance Manual - I only have a scanned version of this at the moment so if anyone has the original pdfs please arrange over pm to get them to me.

- Parts Manual, Service Price Guide and 2x Excel Spreadsheets with part numbers etc...



JH600B-A

- English Maintenance Manual. I've no idea if this even exists? But if anyone has it or knows of it's existence then please feel free to pm me.

- Chinese Maintenance Manual. This, I believe I have all of it as Jialing sent me their own link, however the drawings on the pdf are quite grey and hard to see.

- 2x Excel Spreadsheets with part numbers etc...



If anyone has the Portuguese Versions of the Service Manuals that I assume must be somewhere for the Brazilian market please feel free to pm me as I would be happy to host these and anything else as well so everyone can have one single resource to go to for all docs Jialing related.:thumbsup:

Furthermore, when I have time this week I am also going to make up a Google spreadsheet of all known contacts for Jialing People, Dealers, Service Centres, Taobao Part sellers etc... I will allow full edit access to this so it can be a work in progress and everyone on here can keep it updated. Keep watching this post for the link shortly.

Any further suggestions for Jialing related docs etc are welcome. When I head to the factory at the end of this month I am going to try and bother them for as much as possible.:riding:

:clap:Thanx!! :clap:

This is HUGE! Muchas gracias, Tom.

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Originally Posted by LDrider

This is HUGE! Muchas gracias, Tom.

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No worries at all, it seems to be the right way forward!


I have also just come across a PPT document in Chinese that is 85 pages long dedicated to the electrical wiring of the JH600s (already uploaded in the Chinese Maintenance Manual section). Should be a good reference to have when the mechanic better known to us all as Heath Robinson's Chinese first cousin is pulling on the loom and hacking bits off it in the hope that the problem might simply go away if he cuts enough off!:gaah:


I will update this as thread as more gets added and updated. The next item on my list besides getting the FULL English copy of the JH600 Service manual is to get the Jialing contacts spreadsheet up and running.

Dear Tom,

Thanks for picking up the ball with the manuals. They'll be a lot more useful to MCM on your gDrive than gathering dust on my hard drive.

Better yet, I've been in contact with Jialing today, and signs look positive about getting the whole megillah in English. Inshallah.

cheers!

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Originally Posted by euphonius

Better yet, I've been in contact with Jialing today, and signs look positive about getting the whole megillah in English. Inshallah.

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Sounds ideal Jeff! Looking forward to putting it up for everyone! Thanks also for your efforts!

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Originally Posted by tombaxers

Furthermore, when I have time this week I am also going to make up a Google spreadsheet of all known contacts for Jialing People, Dealers, Service Centres, Taobao Part sellers etc... I will allow full edit access to this so it can be a work in progress and everyone on here can keep it updated.

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So here's the direct link to the new Jialing contacts spreadsheet. This should be able to be updated by anyone without logging into Google or into my g-drive. Please feel free to add all Jialing related contact info you have from anywhere in China or elsewhere in the world.

Once again, here is the original link for all the manual downloads, where you can also find the spreadsheet.:deal:

Enjoy!

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Originally Posted by tombaxers

So here's the direct link to the new Jialing contacts spreadsheet. This should be able to be updated by anyone without logging into Google or into my g-drive. Please feel free to add all Jialing related contact info you have from anywhere in China or elsewhere in the world.

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G'Day,

Don't get me wrong but have you actually asked permission from the people concerned displaying full contact details and employment status on the internet?
It's a good idea but people might have something against displaying full contact details.... nuff' said.

Did you manage to solve your fapiao / rego & licensing issues yet?

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Originally Posted by TB-Racing

Don't get me wrong but have you actually asked permission from the people concerned displaying full contact details and employment status on the internet?

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Butch, fair point. I should explain however that the spreadsheet is not actually published to the internet (it won't show up in listings). The shared settings are such that you can only access the details if you have the actual link and seeing as this link is only published here on MCM I don't see much difference between their details being on the spreadsheet and sharing their details here on the forum, which seems to be common place.

Nevertheless, I will ask LZD and Xiaofan when I'm next there if it is okay and I will ask the Jialing guys when I go to the factory.

I have downloaded parts of the JH600 manual. The introduction/forward sections says the manual is intended for users and maintenance people. I have a JH150GY-2 in the Philippines that is marketted as a Motorstar MSX150-S. This is a popular bike with the other expats living in my area but the two complaints that are common, is the lack of spare part availability and the lack of a service manual. I am trying to get the factory workshop manual for the JH150GY-2. I have contacted the sales department of Jialing and of course the Motorstar marketter/distributor without any success. I have been told by Jialing that it is available but also been told that it is not available. The local Motorstar dealer says it is available for the dealers only. He has been trying for the last 8 months to get the manual for their own workshop use but have not succeeded. tombaxers has done a great service to JH600 owners by sharing the manuals he has succeeded in getting. Does anyone know where I could download the equivalent for the JH150GY-2 ? The English version is preferred but a Chinese version would be a great help.

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a JH150GY-2 in the Philippines that is marketted as a Motorstar MSX150-S.

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This bike? http://www.xici.net/d81910480.htm
If the piston is 61mm, tons of parts in Philippines, Honda used sold GL145 (Hawk) there. taobao.com also very convenient to buy other parts.
Parts catalog with tons picture are available in Chinese. http://www.jialing.com.cn/service/su...data/10.11.xls
http://a.imageshack.us/a/img3/8481/image2a.gif
Find someone from here order it to you seems the easiest way.
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Use specs in Honda service manual & "brain" power in REAL situation !!!

Hi humanbeing,

thanks for your time and the reply.

> This bike? http://www.xici.net/d81910480.htm

Almost, but not 100% the same. Here is the link to what Motorstar is offering:-

http://www.motorstar.com.ph/products/msx150-s

I suspect the differences are just cosmetic and of no great consequence but it is impossible to know from the photos whether Motorstar has asked any form of alterations/customisations for the MSX150-S although I doubt it.

> If the piston is 61mm, tons of parts in Philippines,
> Honda used sold GL145 (Hawk) there. taobao.com also very convenient to buy other parts.

Yes, I have been told before that lots of parts from Japanese bikes will fit the Jialing. Fitting is one thing but making sure it is truely compatible is another. But when there is no alternative available in a reasonable time then substitution is what gets done. But how well that works depends on what it is that needs replacing. I am trying to get away from the substitution game.

Just as one example: One of the expats who broke a clutch lever assembly was told by the Motorstar (Jialing) dealer to go to the other bike dealers and look for something that will do the job. It is not a great answer but that is what he was forced to do and is adequate. He bridged out the starter interlock that is on the Jialing part but not on the substitution. One of the guys is preparing in advance by buying parts that are more likely to break. He is having mixed success with getting things even with the long lead times.

I personally would like to keep my bike in factory original condition. What I am trying to do is get the documentation that the dealers should have so that I can do their job for them. What I mean is, if we are looking for a particular part then put the order on the dealers with both a description and the Jialing part number. And if that does not improve the situation then find a dealer of parts in China and bypass Motorstar.

> Parts catalog with tons picture are available in Chinese. http://www.jialing.com.cn/service/su...data/10.11.xls

Thank you for the advice. I have used OpenOffice to look at the spread sheet but I am not sure it is showing all the information in the file. I will have to try it with a later version of OpenOffice. If I understand you correctly, you have highlighted the Chinese version of the parts catalogue. I dont speak or read/write any Chinese but I think one of the other expats in PI may be able to help on that. I am confident that the information I am looking for is available. The "Catalogue of Service Parts" for the JH150GY-2(268) is available in the UK and appears to be an English version. Here is the link valid as at 16/10/2012.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jialing-JH...item35c09dcb85

There is no space between the '&' and the 'hash' in that URL.

According to the seller it is dated 2000. My Motorstar MSX150-S was bought in February 2012 but I am not sure what the actual build date is. I do not know what changes have been made to the parts listing over the 10+ years.

> Find someone from here order it to you seems the easiest way.

Yes, agreed, it would be good to find a reliable honest supplier in China that we all can deal with. Pooling orders and spare parts makes sense.

> Use specs in Honda service manual & "brain" power in REAL situation !!!

I take it you mean the Honda GL145 for many of the specs. Yes, that is the fall back position but I am hoping to do better than reverse engineering and 'guestimating' unless I really have to. The problem with substitution is that while something may look the same, there can be significant differences in the metallurgy and manufacturing treatments ie differences in alloying, grain structure and orientation. etc etc. There are plenty more important areas where there could be subtleties of design that may not be at all obvious. So, I prefer to go with factory original parts. The Jialing engineers know the design parameters so it seems better to let them present the tolerances, clearances,torques,sequencing etc.

It really is not in the manufacturers interest to withold this information. Surely they take some pride in the products they sell and see the value of satisfied owners? I am working on the concept that it is the Filipino company Motorstar that is disappointing us more than Jialing. Maybe I am wrong with that.

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Originally Posted by tombaxers

Dear All Jialing Owners or potential future owners, I have just uploaded all the JH600 and JH600B-A documents that I presently have to my Google Drive for anyone and everyone to download here. Since this is Google I'm afraid that you are sadly going to need a VeePeeEn to get access to it.:bs:
Hallo. Can anyone tell me how I can get a part for a jh600. Live in UK and need part no.2431A-F02-0000 Tony

At the moment, the breakdown of docs is as follows:


JH600

- English Maintenance Manual, however I AM MISSING Chapters 8, 9 and 14-21. Therefore if anyone has these please pm me to arrange transfer and upload. I know that Euponious is trying already to find them.

- Chinese Maintenance Manual - I only have a scanned version of this at the moment so if anyone has the original pdfs please arrange over pm to get them to me.

- Parts Manual, Service Price Guide and 2x Excel Spreadsheets with part numbers etc...



JH600B-A

- English Maintenance Manual. I've no idea if this even exists? But if anyone has it or knows of it's existence then please feel free to pm me.

- Chinese Maintenance Manual. This, I believe I have all of it as Jialing sent me their own link, however the drawings on the pdf are quite grey and hard to see.

- 2x Excel Spreadsheets with part numbers etc...



If anyone has the Portuguese Versions of the Service Manuals that I assume must be somewhere for the Brazilian market please feel free to pm me as I would be happy to host these and anything else as well so everyone can have one single resource to go to for all docs Jialing related.:thumbsup:

Furthermore, when I have time this week I am also going to make up a Google spreadsheet of all known contacts for Jialing People, Dealers, Service Centres, Taobao Part sellers etc... I will allow full edit access to this so it can be a work in progress and everyone on here can keep it updated. Keep watching this post for the link shortly.

Any further suggestions for Jialing related docs etc are welcome. When I head to the factory at the end of this month I am going to try and bother them for as much as possible.:riding:

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Hallo. Live in UK and need part no.2431A-F02-0000 for jh600 can anyone help please

Dear "Wombat" - meanwhile you should have received your part. Nice to see you being on China Moto !

Regards,
Bart
MOTORWERK