SENKE 鹤山国机南联摩托车工业有限公司

Senke ranks 28 in the Top 50 Manufactures, based on production.
Estimated annualized sales for 2012 are 205,122 a 17.8% increase over 2011.
of that production 97.09% is exported.

Senke presence in the markets is most obvious in eastern Europe, sold under the Romet brand and also the Senke brand.

Here is their SK 250 X6 also known as the Romet 249 Division
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uacdpSe0si4

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http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...met/Romet1.jpg

Heshan Guoji Nanlian Motorcycle Industry Co., Ltd. is a private enterprise specialized in developing, producing, and exporting motorcycle products. Our company is located in the Dayan Mountain Scenery Zone, Heshan, which a famous overseas Chinese hometown with beautiful scenery. Our location is close to Guangzhou, Jiangmen, and Foshan, with convenient transportation and geographic advantages. Our company was established in 1998, covering 20,000 square meters, including 2 workshops and 3 whole unit production lines to satisfy the annual output capacity of 300,000 motorcycles. Under our developing plan, before 2015, our company will increase 2 production lines, to achieve the annual output capacity of 600,000 motorcycles.

Current estimated annualized production 2012	Liberal estimate of increased production annually, YTD is currently at 17.8%
205,122	20.00%
Forecasts based on 20% gains in production year on year.
246,146	2013
295,376	2014
354,451	2015
425,341	2016
510,409	2017
612,491	2018

Test and the clip of "Romet Division 249" which ​​Hungarian "Onroad" magazine made a few years ago - http://www.onroad.hu/teszt/teszt-rom...oznapokra.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pOkih0Kk4c

PRICE 8,499.00 PLN

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2,656.76 USD

In Russia even more - 94,600 rubles ~ $ 3,030 (source - http://www.senke.ru/ )

http://www.senke.ru/img/moto/senke250-2.png

I did not link to the Russian website, some of the images are kind of painful, particularly the one with the second wife helmets, I thought I would spare people the agony.

I do not know the story behind that engine, it looks like a Chinese CMX250 cylinder block and head cover…but it is only a 223cc single cylinder and also has dual exhaust ports. I think somebody got creative in the machine shop? Its rated at 13kw-17.68hp…It could be the piston and crank of the 223cc single bore into a CMX250 blank block? Maybe the two marry at the crank with the same specifications? It looks like a cobbled design, but it may work well?

I saw a report from some Polish motorcycle show, where the guys from Romet said that they have developed a new engine...

I think they just altered the appearance of a 223cc OHC single, inside I bet they are all about the same.
http://sklep.romet.pl/romet_motors/2012/art1850.html


The Russians are either exaggerating the hp (+1.5) on their website or the horned helmet and red leather outfits make it more powerful.


Its a cool bike and worth about 2.5K USD on the road not any more then that, that link has them for $2,200.00 including VAT. I bet that the Russian bike cost more do to import tax.

Can I get Romet to sponsor me?

I do not think they sell those outside of Poland do they.

I thought it best to update this, the Division 250 has a 223cc engine that is manufactured by a company called TYAN that also manufactures engines for ZONTE which is actually Haojiang. TYAN seems to have a respectable client list for its engines.

Haojiang offers some of the nicer Chinese made motorcycles, they offer for example a very good copy of the Suzuki GS125 and it seems to get its engine sourced from TYAN.


http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...g/RedOneg3.jpg

The products converge in the wholesaling and that can be plainly seen on the this Senke Globalmarket B2B website.

These manufactures may want to consider differentiating more then combining, at least at the wholesaling level. I can see Haojiang as well as Senke designs on that site, but also some others offerings that are not displayed on either companies websites.


Detailing the engines and disclosing the sources as TYAN could benefits all involved.


Retailers often cherry pick out of the offerings, re-branding further confuses customers and in that really makes supporting with parts and technical specifications more difficult.

These companies have decent distribution partners, but loose brand identity in retail. It must be difficult to convince the distributor to utilize the OEM brand, but ultimately doing so serves everyone best. Because standard parts with singular source ID numbers is most efficient. Keeping with common brand names and associated supply lines make it all clearer to all involved. It is not uncommon for manufactures to differentiate there offering in classifications even offer lines of models in certain categories and even give them their own names, but the source is important to identify. One company can have divisions that have teams that work to develop lines that are different.


Zonte is only a brand that is sourced through Haojiang, but it is not really needed in fact it would have served them better to sell the bikes under the Haojiang brand and in fact some of the offering they make are very marketable in Europe learner class and currently are not offered there.


They also are loosing out on potential expansion by not having the more powerful engines ready for the learners when the move up and with offerings that carry the brand they started with, if they had good luck with their first bike they will gravitate to that brand for the next bike.


Tyan should be investing in new engines,. They should be investing in the 250cc-500cc engines sequentially and the brands need to establish the base that these future offering are placed into.

Im polish, i had a look at some of the polish forums about romet division 249

People say that the build quality isnt good. Plastic parts start rattling at higher speed and that metal components started rusting straight away. Tires that come with the bike supposed to be rubbish too.

As for the good things...its nippy and the brakes are good

I know that now Haojiang factory prepare some new engines. They start working at 2011.

250 cc ,oil cooled; 600 cc , 4 cylynder.

I believe the engines are manufactured for both Senke and Haojiang by TYAN. A three party venture for that, but they also sell the engines to others. I would say that TYAN is focused on machining engines and engine parts.

I am not a big fan of the Romet Divisions design, the engine yes and that is made by TYAN .
The plastic is not needed, less plastic is better and metals need to be improved they are not galvanizing the frames and doing so would increase value.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...vision_249.jpg


I still think this is what the engine should be in, this is a CB230 it has a 223cc engine. I am not going to say the TYAN engine is better then the Honda but it has a balance shaft and rates slightly more powerful.
http://pic.pimg.tw/hfms/47dc1486ca60...b13e6fe373.jpg

The easiest way to get close to that would be this bike made by Haojiang and simply put the bigger engine in it.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...125-150-18.jpg

Haojing also has a mono shock frame that is likely the same as the Senke Romet, they advertise it as the ZT200-7A Phantom, Haojiang sells under the brands Zonte and also Tayo.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...omMid_en01.jpg
The 199cc engine is rated at 10.5kw the 223cc is rated higher then that, the B2B websites often get it wrong on specifications.

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Originally Posted by MJH

I believe the engines are manufactured for both Senke and Haojiang by TYAN. A three party venture for that, but they also sell the engines to others. I would say that TYAN is focused on machining engines and engine parts.

I am not a big fan of the Romet Divisions design, the engine yes and that is made by TYAN .
The plastic is not needed, less plastic is better and metals need to be improved they are not galvanizing the frames and doing so would increase value.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...vision_249.jpg


I still think this is what the engine should be in, this is a CB230 it has a 223cc engine. I am not going to say the TYAN engine is better then the Honda but it has a balance shaft and rates slightly more powerful.
http://pic.pimg.tw/hfms/47dc1486ca60...b13e6fe373.jpg

The easiest way to get close to that would be this bike made by Haojiang and simply put the bigger engine in it.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...125-150-18.jpg

Haojing also has a mono shock frame that is likely the same as the Senke Romet, they advertise it as the ZT200-7A Phantom, Haojiang sells under the brands Zonte and also Tayo.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...omMid_en01.jpg
The 199cc engine is rated at 10.5kw the 223cc is rated higher then that, the B2B websites often get it wrong on specifications.

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Phantom now is under re-design. TYAN prepare new engine for that model, 250 cc with fuel injection (from Delphi). I will show more pictures then will be ready.

There is a Thai manufacturer named Tiger that offers a bike with a 250cc they call it the F4250 Boxer. It looks rough but the concept is not bad, I like the red head cover and the tank design.

Here is a Boxer aka F4 250 owners image gallery.

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...iger/F4250.jpg
Tiger may have some affiliation with SACH?
Tiger offers a very nice retro horizontal 110cc bike,
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...iger/white.jpg

http://www.tigermotor.co.th/ProductA...5/CSC_0478.JPG

Frankenstein bike.

Edit:

This refers to the Boxer.

This white one is lovely, as well as the original older Honda CD 70.

I just was sharing information, Tiger is the OEM for SACH in Thailand, in China the SACH OEM is 5R motors.


You can see here on this forum an X-Road the owner of also has a Boxer 250, both of which are awkward looking if you ask me.


But within 5R is Wuyang that is also a partner with Honda, that sells a very nice model they called a WY125-12, they sell those in the UK for cheap.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...g/WY125-12.jpg


Here is the thing that gets me….SACH does offer a standard, but they offer it like this? I say congratulations you made it ugly.
http://www.sachs-bikes.cc/uploadfile..._184941555.jpg

Why not just the standard with a 250cc engine?

SENKE has a partner in Central America
Thunder Motors

They are offering their version of the Honda XRE300, with a 200cc engine for $2,600.00 USD


http://www.motosthunder.com/

Senke has a new model, it will be the new Romet Division. This version only offered with a 125cc engine.

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These are being referred to at Senke as their Raptor series.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...3138326845.jpg
Offered with 125,150 and 200cc engines.

In 2013 Senke brought this interesting version, that looks to be based on a Honda XL185 frame, to the market.

They call it a SK150-9, it is not selling well and that could be due to its graphics, somebody thinks that making graphics that look like paint coming off is a good idea? Then also they put the graphics on only bright colors.

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...1a54b8ed26.jpg

In Poland sold as Romet Z175.
From the begining Romet has imported motorcycles from senke.
Whats interesting the first models was completely assembled in China and were better assembled than the later models assembled in Poland from senke parts.

Now after few years is the assembly not so bad. And the motorcycles are reliable.

Is it that difficult to get a license in Poland? Because they sell allot of the 50cc models that do not require a license, referred to as motorowery “mopeds”. Which is counterintuitive since they have no pedals. Is there some cost penalty for over 50cc and then over 125cc? What is the story there?

So they take the 50cc and bore it out to 80cc?
http://youtu.be/GkMZtQmKeg4
Seems to me that if it is unlicensed and should not be able to go over say 30mph getting pulled over would be an issue…no? Seems to me that there are allot of unlicensed vehicles do to this or are these moped still registered?

People which where 18 years old before 2013 can drive a 49ccm without any driver license. It is often used by people from vilages to go to work.
The People with car driver license buyed them too because of low fuel consumption.

The Teenagers aged 14 could make a driver license for 49ccm in school. That has changed last year, Teenagers must absolve a driver school and make an exam.
The People where 18 after 2013 must do the same.
A teneeger aged 16 can take a driver school and exam to drive a 125ccm (A1). At 18 you can take school for 500ccm and without limit driver license you can make at 24.

But... With the New Regulation has changed something else. All people they have since 3 years car driver license can drive an 125 ccm (manual or automatic) without extra exam even without driver school.
This goes for the foreigner too.

Now the romet and junak introduce many new models, because many people want to make a dream true and drive a motorcycle. But no as commuter, thay want to explore Poland with a bike.
But the prices rised at 20-30% to the prices before the new regulation.


The low fuel consumption is crucial. I am an production coordinator and i can buy for my month salary about 500liter fuel.
The production workers just 250-350.

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Originally Posted by MJH

So they take the 50cc and bore it out to 80cc?

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This is illegal, but If police found out you must go to vehicle check service. You must just mount you 50ccm again and pay for speeding.
After check you mount the 80ccm again. No big Deal.

Fact is police does not check the bore size just speeding. And the other drivers give signals that they measuring the speed.
The automatic photo speedometer makes usualy photos from the front so you can drive safely with a bike.

So now the 150 ccm bore kit will be the most buyed kit...and by the 125ccm is no speed limit so the police will not send you to check the bike. The only problem is that the bore kits have a mark with 150ccm. You must make them unreadable or should order 150 ccm kit with 125ccm mark (it is possible to order such thing in China?)