Regal Raptor next year will launch its 900cc V-Twin engine (true copy of the HD 883)
The engine will be the same or similar to the following picture:
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/827...4003147214.jpg
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Regal Raptor next year will launch its 900cc V-Twin engine (true copy of the HD 883)
The engine will be the same or similar to the following picture:
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/827...4003147214.jpg
too much Spanish red methinks
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Originally Posted by lipsee
I do not understand what you mean
It's Cockney speech.
As I understand, he said that your mom dresses you ugly. :lol8:
Joking aside.
If this is true, I think that people from "Regal Raptor" could make much better choice what to copy.
Ok ,,,,I cannot see RR producing an air cooled 900cc twin,,,maybe they could copy the bomberdier or perhaps that Moto Morini,,,but I could be wrong!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by xacarrere
Regal Raptor not copy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorge
Regal Raptor is licensed to produce old motors of other brands
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Originally Posted by lipsee
The information I have provided is from reliable sources.
'll Bring new information as soon as possible.
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Originally Posted by xacarrere
Oh jah? And why should HD do that?Quote:
Originally Posted by xacarrere
Hisun has a V-twin on its website, Type S&S 124 ci (2031cc) V Twin Engine, I really doubt the engine is being manufactured in china, but bet that they are making the rest there.
I am not sure what this post is about, saying you have information from a reliable source out of china is an oxymoron, as is any assumption of truth…au fait…me thinks not.
JP flashed a water cooled V-twin on its website last year...it has since went into the shadows.
It was likely framing out of Lifeng and an engine sourced from another.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...ng2010352x.jpg
There are not many images online of the V-twin...here is one.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...eng/V-Twin.jpg
Building a frame around an S&S engine is not impossible, manufacturing the engine in china would not be impossible either…but really unlikely at this point.
Leonart, which is the distributor for Lifeng in Spain is now offering the 320cc engine models and they are also offering the Piaggio DOHC 4-valve 125cc as well as an engine option, that is the same engine used in the Derbi bikes.
MJH
1.- I never said that I have a reliable source in china
2.- Johnny pag, not related to Lifeng, has his own company
3.- I'm not talking about Leonart, I'm talking about regal raptor
4.- Piaggio engine still is not being used, currently being used engine 125cc regal raptor
My intention is not to convince anyone of anything, when the time comes you'll see.
Best regards
I am looking at in in generalities and how products come to the market.
Who is your source of information are you hanging out with Horse Zang?
My source is not horse zang
The information comes from Roberto Martinez, regal raptor importer in Argentina
This is what he said Roberto Martinez:
Excuse you, my English is very bad to translateQuote:
Todo lo que les puedo decir es que Regal Raptor esta trabajando con mucha prisa en el nuevo motor de 800cc en V a 45°( solicitado por sus distribuidores en todo el mundo), esto fue lo que me respondieron cuando solicite seguir con el desarrollo utilizando el 650cc de Hyosung...
....Uno de los motivos por que Regal Raptor no utiliza el motor Hyosung es por que al ser en V a 90° es necesario alargar mas la parte trasera del chasis, lo cual no gusta a la gente de Regal, ellos prefieren el diseño Harley con la V a 45°.
Por el momento no tome contacto físico con el nuevo motor, pero por mi experiencia nunca es bueno comprar la primera serie, tendremos que esperar que todo este maduro, de todas maneras ni bien la fabrica tenga lista las primeras unidades traeremos una para probarla y presentarla.
Try to translate it with a translator or someone who knows the Spanish language
Best regards,
Yes the little parallel twins and the Hyosung engine simply do not look correct, the HD engine would and does look much better.
The HD Softails do not come with an 883 engine, they all I believe have the 103B which is 1700cc.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...ftTailSlim.jpg
So certainly there would be some demand for an 883 Softail, HD only offers the engine in Sportsters.
Most Harley’s sell in the US for about $9.00-$10.00 per cc, applying that price formula to the RR bikes the 320cc is worth about $2,960.00. The 883 sells for $7,999.00, the Softail sell for $15,969.00.
Here is the thing, I really do not care, these are not my style bikes, but seems to me that Lifan already has two 70 degree V-twin a 400cc and 250cc, that could relatively easily be configured into soft tail frames.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/VStar640.jpg
This is a 70 degree V-star Classic 650 and they sell for $6,590.00 in the US new. A brand new V-star 250 sell for $4,290.00, the little 250 would be more popular if it was in a longer soft tail frame.
A soft tail 400 should sell for about $4,500.00 if coming out of China and a 250 for $2,500.00, the labor cost are very low there and the Chinese government offers manufacturers incentives for them to export….basically the Chinese motorcycle are subsidized by the government.
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Originally Posted by xacarrere
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Originally Posted by MJH
I agree with what you say and I hope we can see a regal raptor with harley motor :thumbsup:
It would be an 800cc Lifeng motor not a Harley unless Harley sold out to Lifeng and that is so unlike Harley to do that, if they were to partner with a Chinese manufacturer I have to wonder if they would choose Lifeng my impression is that they do not want to manufacture in China and that they really are waiting or holding out for trade tariffs to be relaxed.
Obviously the market for an 800cc soft tail would be anywhere anyone can sell them and for as much as they can possibly get for them, HD could also make a soft tail 883 and likely sell some, maybe this will make that happen? I would assume that if given a choice people would buy the real deal and not the knock off?
I personally like the 883R but not as much as the 1200XR, HD choose not to offer the 883R in the USA and do not even offer a 883 soft tail so there is more then one hole in their lineup, or they simply think that the market here would not be interested in that type of bike?
883R
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3152/...9b111a5c84.jpg
1200XR
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buel...777/235073.jpg
Johnny Pag Australia has a 660i Malibu model, it looks to me that engine is sourced through Gaokin.
http://www.gaokin.com/en/index.asp
35hp @ 6250
45Nm@4500
A water cooled SOHC 4-Valve single.
http://www.johnnypag.com/usa/sites/d...alibu600_0.png
correcting youQuote:
Originally Posted by MJH
we do not.
No test samples ever sent from jr for testing the ADR(Australian Design Approval) before any bikes legal to sell on Australian market.
Do you think it a good looking engine? Block castings would look more pleasing with air fins like the 233/273/320 engines.
not available here now - http://business-bankruptcies.com/cas...ag-motorcycles
Well there is a chance that they can do better with the 350 line and with the expanded market range. The offering initially were priced on the high side here in the USA, they were competing with other Chinese made bikes which sold for much less and were sold and shipped direct online.
I assume that they killed all the low sales models off and only kept the most popular….nothing they offer today is not a standard Lifeng factory offering. I do not think the FX-3 made it through an entire year before they canceled it, it was the only model that interested me. But I did not get one because of the price and that the only support at the time was too far away, no local dealer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzP5Gsmtu30