done!
after two month and 17.700km we arrived in Berlin
more on the trip later :icon10:
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done!
after two month and 17.700km we arrived in Berlin
more on the trip later :icon10:
Hi,
that sounds like great stuff. Can't wait on some more of the trip.
How, in terms of paperwork, did you get your bike out of China and how "clean" is the bike in general?
Andy
sure its clean and legal, i wouldnt take a chinese made bike if i would just want to drive unregistered. before i had a TZM 150cc 2-stroke with fake papers but just for inside china. couldnt leave to laos because of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinabiker
Any chance that you tell us which documents you needed and where you applied for it to get the bike out of China. Where did you cross the border?Quote:
Originally Posted by tokyokid
I am planning a trip China-Kazakhstan-Russia-Mongolia-China and am therefore interested in the paperwork.
Andy
We just registered the bike on my wifes hukou in Changsha, Hunan. We got the blue registration book and green vehicle ownership book. Took that to the border. Crossed at Jimunay into Kazakhstan.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinabiker
We did hundreds of calls ahead to all government places and even to the border station, so they know we would come. As its China, everybody give different answeres. We where ask from anything military permit, to export licence and so on.
Finally we decide just to go to the border.
They refused us and say we need an agent, that can handle export. They got one for us and wanted to start a full export procedure of the bike like they do for trucks....to our luck the boss of the border came, he remember we called and i was asked to drive the bike inside the immigration for ppl. I pushed the bike trough the passport control :) and my wife got a small doc from them that my bike is handluggage and i can bring it back when i come to china. Than my wife needed to take the bus over the nomansland to Kazakhstan side and i was asked to drive ahead.
From what they said we where the first to cross there by chinese licenced moto. Tell me if you know anyone who did it before. On the Kazak side they said the same and didint wanted to let us in....but more on that later....:icon10:
How reliable has the bike been? And how many kms were on the bike when you left Changsha?
bike was reliable.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZMC888
bought it with 0km in Shanghai and have now 26.300km on the clock.
you can see its made in china but with supervision by japanese. so i would always go for yamaha, honda or suzuki. its a difference compared to the all the chinese manufacturer.
more details on all the parts later.
Its fantastic that you made it and the bike was reliable! I'm excited about seeing your trip report and hearing all about your adventures!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Paz,
CC
Thanks. Im working on a report but will take time.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyCarl
btw on Qumalai to Budongquan whats the highes pass? since i dont use GPS i have no clue how high it was
When I went from Qumalai to Budongquan the road was not yet cleared or graded so I'm not sure if it still follows the same route. Either way, the only pass there was just after (North of) Qumalai and was about 4,700 if I recall. The entire route stays at high altitutde between 4,400 to 4,600m so 4,700 isnt that much of a relative difference and soem might not even call it a pass.
Glad to hear you took that route! Was there still lots of wildlife?
CC
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Originally Posted by CrazyCarl
it follows mostly the same road. the road is gravel one without potholes but its really slippy on the fresh little stones. the other problem is the bridges are not done, so you still need to cross most of those damn little rivers. the birdges should be finish by 2009. road will stay unpaved for the future the working crews said. it took them 3 years to make it to what it is now....
yes eagles marmots and 4 tibetan antilopes, there damn fast
Well at least you had some bridges! You had a bridge over the longest river crossing which wasn't there when I crossed 2005. Actually it looks like the road has been dramatically improved from the photos you posted and it seems with more traffic. Back then much of the road was actually an old river bed. Man those were some hairy times!
Those small river crossings were really bad too though as they appeared every .5 to 1km. Also, at the time, none of them were leveled out and many still had very steep banks. Sometimes i had to ride or walk up and down one of the small crossings to find a better crossing point, hoping to find a local's tracks. In the end, it was a small one that finally sunk me.
Man that was a difficult but unimaginable ride! Glad to hear the wild life was still out there too. You get to see that abandoned town before the big river crossing?
CC
you should change your road info on that route, I expected a bigger adventure, thats why I choosed it ...Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyCarl
otherwise I could go strait from xining to dunhuang without that big circle :mwink:
you should go from deqin to lhasa (G318), thats more of an adventure and landscape is incredible.
the funny thing was that the 109 at kunlun shan was totally fucked for a part. dunno what happend there, but it was the last place I expected a bad road...
Yes town still there, wonder when the ppl left it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyCarl
How did you cross the big river? It impossible nowdays. There was rain in the morning and its for sure deeper than a whole motorbike
any pics from that time of the river?
The info for that road was changed a while ago when an adventure cyclists gave me an update of the road conditions. Just goes to show the bad roads are running out fast! The route from Xining to Dunhuang is much less exciting. I though you were looking for adventure? :lol8:Quote:
Originally Posted by tokyokid
ChinaV and I were just on 318 at Litang and at the time it was a definite no-go.
109 at Kunlun Mountain was hit by a large earthquake right at the pass a few months back so what you saw was likely the damage from the quake. Got any pics of it?
The pic below is a pic of that river you crossed with a bridge. It was taken at the middle of the river on a sand bar. You cross those kinds of rivers by riding diagonally across deep water channels between sand bars until you get to the other side...like a zig zag. At first I didn't know what to do and was about to shit in my pants but then saw a local run through it on one of those little red 125's. He waited for me at the other side and we rode together for a while. Nice guy! :thumbsup:
-click on image to see it in Panormaio-
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/p...um/1284427.jpg
That town you crossed was an old work camp during the revolutionary days. I used to know the name but have since forgotten. A pic below...
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/p...um/1060601.jpg
Glad you made the trip safely! How did your wife fare?
CC
We wanted to see the Total Solar Eclipse at Hami on 1st august and where to quick in Xining, so we had time left, thats why we choose to go to YuShu and your "adventure" road.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyCarl
btw the tibetian horce rase festival in Yushu was forbidden by government this year.... till managed to find one on the way to qumalay.
why "no-go" in Litang? weather or police? usually you can go anywhere you want on a bike. i got catched soo many times this year but never needed to pay any fine.
My wife was fine on the trip, she just complained that she was often hungry on the tour. Right now we have arguments because she dont want to go to australia by bike...but lets see when it gets colder and more grey here...
Here you can see the map of my 2008 trip from Shanghai to Europe.
The points are the places we stayed overnight.
Click on the picture to have full view in Google Maps.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_b3zIU1Qp9v...oEuropeMap.jpg
That's an impressive route TokyoK! Any more stories to tell? I'm sure you must have had some crazy situations.
:riding:
CC
I also have to say ,its impressive route TokyoKid.
I think ride from istanbul to shanghai , mybe acouple of years later.
Fantastic. Congratulations. Are you going to publish an account of the tour? A book might be a hit with other bikers of small cc machines.
Happy New Year
Pete
Great video that was recently broadcast on Zhejiang Satellite TV:
im a few years too late but this still sounds epic having ridden bikes with the same engine!
Not a chance in hell of getting my wife to do that trip on the back of a bike. That's a good thing.
I'm told the highway/road from Lhasa to Ali will be finished next Summer. Bit of a shame I guess. Good for the locals though.
I am told quite a few Japanese motorcycle riders came through this year that and bicycle riders .