motoDNA academy in Shanghai

G'day,

My name is Mark McVeigh, I'm the Senior coach of Australian based motoDNA academy - www.motodna.com.au

I'm in Shanghai networking with motorcyclists 26th - 27th Jan.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Cheers ...

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Originally Posted by motoDNA

I'm in Shanghai networking with motorcyclists 26th - 27th Jan.

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networking is usually a word for getting free info and feedback?
could you be more specific and get into details.... thanks, much appreciated!

G,day Mark interesting concept you have there.
Your coaches certainly have some credentials.
Best of luck in China

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Originally Posted by TB-Racing

networking is usually a word for getting free info and feedback?
could you be more specific and get into details.... thanks, much appreciated!

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Networking is meeting like minded people, building relationships, discussing ideas that are potentially mutually beneficial to all parties - thanks...

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Originally Posted by zhu

G,day Mark interesting concept you have there.
Your coaches certainly have some credentials.
Best of luck in China

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Thanks Zhu

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Originally Posted by motoDNA

Networking is meeting like minded people, building relationships, discussing ideas that are potentially mutually beneficial to all parties - thanks...

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So what's on offer in Shanghai (or China), another rider training or workshop out at Tianma Circuit / F1 Track? Details would help somehow....

What Shanghai -- and all of China -- could really use is a basic rider safety course, like that offered by the Motorcycle Safety Foundation in the US and other countries. Kneedragging skills are great, but basic maneuvering, safety and defensive driving skills should come first -- and are sorely needed!

I suppose the vehicle management bureau feels it already has this covered with the training and licensing system it currently has in place. But wouldn't it be great if someone offered a quality basic riding and safety course that was taught by skilled, conscientious riders! It would take thoughtful marketing to build a following, but I hope someone tries. Hint, hint...

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Originally Posted by euphonius

What Shanghai -- and all of China -- could really use is a basic rider safety course, like that offered by the Motorcycle Safety Foundation in the US and other countries. Kneedragging skills are great, but basic maneuvering, safety and defensive driving skills should come first -- and are sorely needed!

I suppose the vehicle management bureau feels it already has this covered with the training and licensing system it currently has in place. But wouldn't it be great if someone offered a quality basic riding and safety course that was taught by skilled, conscientious riders! It would take thoughtful marketing to build a following, but I hope someone tries. Hint, hint...

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Hi euphonius,

Great post - check out what we do in Australia http://motodna.com.au/training

Welcome Mark

I completely agree with Euphonius' suggestions about a well-organized Basic Riding Course. The premier motorcycling publication in China has been strongly advocating such an undertaking. It sponsors an annual all-girls long-distance ride, as one way to promote "recreational motorcycling for all". Most of these girl-riders have never ridden before and are "trained" by highly skilled riders/coaches from the military, before embarking on their journey. However, one of the most common comments from non-participants in Chinese forums (about these annual runs) is "how can I also receive some quality training?"

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Originally Posted by motoDNA

check out what we do in Australia http://motodna.com.au/training

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all great but thats down under in OZtralia, the big question still remains, what's on offer for Shanghai and China as everything works mostly in mysterious ways over here, rider / safety training at the well known tracks or...???

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Originally Posted by motoDNA

My name is Mark McVeigh, I'm the Senior coach of Australian based motoDNA academy

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Originally Posted by euphonius

But wouldn't it be great if someone offered a quality basic riding and safety course that was taught by skilled, conscientious riders!

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Forget the track day classes you offer; there are hardly track days left any more, and for those who really want to learn more on track riding, classes are already covered by a company offering the track fee & rental of bikes and clothing as a package.

Forget the incidental foreigner living in China: there might be some interest, but never enough to justify any long term investment.

So any offering should be based upon a substantial and sincere interest from Chinese riders.
Well, have a look yourself in the coming days, but IMO there is, and will be zero interest from any rider, they are all Gods already (as we unfortunately experience every day here).
Unless it will be forced upon them, it will be a mission impossible.

Sorry, just my 2 cents.

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Originally Posted by motoDNA

Mark McVeigh, I'm the Senior coach of Australian based motoDNA academy - www.motodna.com.au

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I am back in "The Big Smoke" (Shanghai) and if you prefer telling us all about your Shanghai and China Motodna plans / trainings in person, meet me over on 27/01 Sunday as of around 12:00noon at Huqingping Roadhouse Cafe & Restaurant -open daily 9:00 - 20:00hrs.- no. 2188, Huqingping Highway (G318), Qingpu District, 青浦区沪青平公路2188号 http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...house-Shanghai

Google Maps: http://goo.gl/maps/cUjzw

Hi Lao Jia Hou,

Thanks for your welcome and relevant comments.

We are exploring opportunities in China and would like to set up a school here.

What is the premier motorcycling publication in China?

Tnx

Mark

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Originally Posted by Lao Jia Hou

Welcome Mark

I completely agree with Euphonius' suggestions about a well-organized Basic Riding Course. The premier motorcycling publication in China has been strongly advocating such an undertaking. It sponsors an annual all-girls long-distance ride, as one way to promote "recreational motorcycling for all". Most of these girl-riders have never ridden before and are "trained" by highly skilled riders/coaches from the military, before embarking on their journey. However, one of the most common comments from non-participants in Chinese forums (about these annual runs) is "how can I also receive some quality training?"

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Hi TB-Racing ,

Sorry we missed each other in Shanghai.

At the moment we are exploring opportunities in China for motoDNA.

Tnx

Mark

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Originally Posted by TB-Racing

I am back in "The Big Smoke" (Shanghai) and if you prefer telling us all about your Shanghai and China Motodna plans / trainings in person, meet me over on 27/01 Sunday as of around 12:00noon at Huqingping Roadhouse Cafe & Restaurant -open daily 9:00 - 20:00hrs.- no. 2188, Huqingping Highway (G318), Qingpu District, 青浦区沪青平公路2188号 http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...house-Shanghai

Google Maps: http://goo.gl/maps/cUjzw

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Hi 998S ,

Tnx for your comments - thats exactly the type of info we need to find out.

Cheers,
Mark

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Originally Posted by 998S

Forget the track day classes you offer; there are hardly track days left any more, and for those who really want to learn more on track riding, classes are already covered by a company offering the track fee & rental of bikes and clothing as a package.

Forget the incidental foreigner living in China: there might be some interest, but never enough to justify any long term investment.

So any offering should be based upon a substantial and sincere interest from Chinese riders.
Well, have a look yourself in the coming days, but IMO there is, and will be zero interest from any rider, they are all Gods already (as we unfortunately experience every day here).
Unless it will be forced upon them, it will be a mission impossible.

Sorry, just my 2 cents.

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Originally Posted by motoDNA

Hi TB-Racing , Sorry we missed each other in Shanghai.
At the moment we are exploring opportunities in China for motoDNA.
Tnx Mark

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get in touch next time your up here and come over to the HQP Roadhouse as the weekends bring quite a few bikers out there...
you might have heard of them already but have a look here, they operate for some years around ML China:
http://www.bg-performance.com
http://www.bg-performance.com/2006/p...boutBG-eng.asp

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Originally Posted by motoDNA

What is the premier motorcycling publication in China?

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Hi Mark

http://www.hobbypress.cn/list.php?fid-1-page-1.htm

The magazine lists www.bikemedia.cn but it redirects you to the above. Unfortunately (although understandably), it is all in Chinese. If you make it to Beijing, I can introduce you to the Editor - he is the one who has been organizing the all-girls' training & trips, as well as being an advocate for changing the mindset about "motorcycling" in China.

IMHO, the foreign contingent of MC-riders is relatively miniscule in China. It is the Chinese population that is the real market. But, as others note, there will first need to be a shift in mindset.

HOG China offers high-quality lessons to new (and old) Harley Owners, and those lessons are quite popular. But that might be largely because the new Harley owners are riding a large Harley as their first-ever motorcycle.

Good luck!