Help on getting a new bike
Hi guys!
I'm on the market for a new bike, so, as I live in Guangzhou, are there any shops that you know, or you just buy your bikes in taobao?
I would really appreciate your advice for a bike, I would prefer a 125cc dirt bike.
Back home I have a KX125, so which one would be closer to my bike on the Chinese side?
As so many of you are riding and have experience with Chinese bikes, I would really like to hear your opinions..
Thanks a lot!
Re: Help on getting a new bike
Doesn't GZ have a motorcycle ban in place? Anyway look up XTR250 using the MCM search engine, and via Taobao.
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Thanks for the reply bikerdoc.
I would not use the bike for road drive nor I want to get a plate for it.
Nearby my place have lots of mountains and dirt trails, as I don't live really in Guangzhou city center.
The XTR250 looks good but I would like something less powerful, like a 125 or 150cc.
Could you guys let me know which taobao shops would you recommend? That's crazy how can you find bikes from 1500rmb to 12000rmb.
Just need a little guiding here!!
Thanks and good rides!
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Jialing (JL bought the XL125S old tooling ... from Honda in 90s) cabbage is the ancestor of dirt bike in China.
There's many assembler in Chongqing. One of decent one: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=5340731684
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Similar 150 can as low as 2.?k : Zongshen OHV engine/ electric component /shocks ... using cheaper brand.
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Thanks humanbeing!
Have you ever bought on this shop you gave me?
I usually buy stuff in taobao, but a bike never, that's why I'm cautious about it.
As regarding transportation, wouldn't it be unsafe coming from chongqing to Guangzhou?
Re: Help on getting a new bike
And remember when we say "Cheap as Chips"
in China we say "Cheap as Cabbage"
So this is a cabbage bike.
Look here
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...&id=4272639970
Gra.
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Graham, thanks for the tip :)
What dirt bikes do you guys ride on?
My urge to get one is high, but when it comes to cabbages and not bikes I get confused :).
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jlbreda
Back home I have a KX125, so which one would be closer to my bike on the Chinese side?
There's nothing from China that can compare to the KX125. I think you will be sorely disappointed with something like the Jialing 150, it's based on 1970's and 80's technology. Low power 4 stroke engine bolted to a flexi steel frame with twin rear shocks and tiny little forks. Not a bad bike for a light trail ride to your favourite swimming hole or a little exploring, but definitely not something made for serious off road abuse. Your best bet is probably going to be a Galaxy XTR250 (they might still make a 150 as well), Galaxy TGR250 also called the YZR 250-A on Taobao, Shineray X2 and there's also the CQR250.
We ride around Zengcheng all the time (thread here). Guangdong has a lot of deeply rutted trails with plenty of rocks, suspension is important and none of the 250's in China are going to be "too much" for you to handle if you've been riding a KX125.
Cheers!
ChinaV
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CQR is based on CRF230. Many option in engine's brand... Some assembler IS using the "rubbish" Zhejiang parts !!! http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/view...originator=yes
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ChinaV
There's nothing from China that can compare to the KX125. I think you will be sorely disappointed with something like the Jialing 150, it's based on 1970's and 80's technology. Low power 4 stroke engine bolted to a flexi steel frame with twin rear shocks and tiny little forks. Not a bad bike for a light trail ride to your favourite swimming hole or a little exploring, but definitely not something made for serious off road abuse. Your best bet is probably going to be a Galaxy XTR250 (they might still make a 150 as well), Galaxy TGR250 also called
the YZR 250-A on Taobao, Shineray X2 and there's also the CQR250.
We ride around Zengcheng all the time
(thread here). Guangdong has a lot of deeply rutted trails with plenty of rocks, suspension is important and none of the 250's in China are going to be "too much" for you to handle if you've been riding a KX125.
Cheers!
ChinaV
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But all the YZR 250-A seem to be around 9,000 to 10,000 quai.
Are they really worth four times the price?
Gra.
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Graham
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But all the YZR 250-A seem to be around 9,000 to 10,000 quai.
Are they really worth four times the price?
Gra.
That's exactly what I'm wondering.
What's a good price for this bikes, better, what's not a good price?
Taobao can be very deceiving, when you find so many different shops selling the same bike at different prices, and without any sales record for those bikes.
With engines I never heard of, it's difficult for one to decide.
ChinaV, thanks a lot for your advice, and hope we can meet to ride once I got my bike.
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jlbreda
Taobao can be very deceiving, when you find so many different shops selling the same bike at different prices, and without any sales record for those bikes.
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Tabao has sales record.
Look at my Tabao link I posted for example.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...&id=4272639970
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See the 11 figure and the 5 figure
11 people make a comment
5 people buy this bike
Gra.
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Graham
But all the YZR 250-A seem to be around 9,000 to 10,000 quai.
Are they really worth four times the price?
Gra.
Absolutely. You get what you pay for, the thread humanbeing linked to is a perfect example of what kind of "awesome deals" you can get on taobao. Same bike with completely different components can be down and out right dangerous.
I don't know what jlbreda intends to do with the bike, how big he is, how much experience he has, what his expectations are, his budget, or even if his KX125 is five, ten, or twenty years old. There's a HUGE difference between a JL150 and a TGR250, so it's pretty tough to make recommendations without more information.
Cheers!
ChinaV
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ChinaV, thanks one more time, you're being very helpful.
The main usage for the bike is to hit the dirt. My Kx125 is from 2009. Back at home I use to ride in a motocross track near my place on weekends, just for fun.
I'm not that big, 1,81mt., and I'm not looking for anything too serious, just really for fun and to hit some dirt on weekends.
Regards
jlbreda
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here comes my part:-) as the preacher for the model, i recommend you look up the jialing jh 150gy-3 which has its own thread here on mcm. it is a 150cc dual-sport from the same compny as the "cabbage bike" comes for 7500 cny and a lot of people ride them here in bj.
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hello ChinaV,
i have read of your amazing RR made with Andy and Ritch on 2 TGR and on an (i guess ur ex?) XTR.
I saw in MCM kikikillercat is not happy with his Galaxy 250 as it has some problems always.
you wrote before in 2009 that you did not suggest to have an xtr as an only bike.
though I am planning to have one made in 2012...
did you have any issues with your galaxys?
is there anything needs paying extra attention?
i guess most of the xtr and tgr parts are similar. Are these bikes reilable if they are taken care normally?
it would be one of the most important to me.
i also learned that x2 is a much higher quality bike, but xtr adv is closer to my budget and it is more dual than dirt bike.
Also a Cf moto dealer selling Galaxy is close to my place which can help when having issues.
thanks!
the bests, sandor