Any cam's exist for this engine as I want to open up the valves for longer, my engine is the OHC variant?
Would this one work: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GY6-Chines...item3a7dbe954c
Also do the big bore kits include a performance cam?
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Any cam's exist for this engine as I want to open up the valves for longer, my engine is the OHC variant?
Would this one work: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GY6-Chines...item3a7dbe954c
Also do the big bore kits include a performance cam?
You know, there is affordable desmo head for your engine...
63.5mm kit: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=13045861550 (w/ Better piston & ring = Y230 / FREE Domestic shipping)
Performance Cam: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=17729512043
Desmo head?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorge
You guys are my only source of knowledge as I can't find any information elsewhere and I really appreciate it.
Will that cam really work, as I don't see a point to where the timing chain would hook up tooQuote:
Originally Posted by humanbeing
Oh, sorry! I missed to put some smiley at the end of my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by arancara
Here it is: :lol8:
http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-xl125s-19...ist/E++04.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by arancara
http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-xl125s-19...ist/E++05.html
They are playing with you, there may be different cams for that OHC you would be seeking out performance cams for a CB125? I would guess you would need to determine which copy of the Honda 125cc you have and if it is in anyway different or not from the Honda.
I could be off on this but this site may offer some options?
http://www.webcamshafts.com/mobile/m...)_sohc_2v.html
Sorry Human, I replied in the wrong thread yesterday regarding cams and barrels, when I said the following in the other thread:
I used http://www.whomademybike.com/index.php and my vin starts with LX8PCJP03CF, which tells me the following:Quote:
Originally Posted by arancara
Company: Chongqing Xgjao Motorcycle Co Ltd
Country/region: China
Man. Year: 2012
www.made-in-china.com/showroom/sophie8285
Hopefully this will help you confirm whether the taobao links are correct for my needs, thanks for the help so far.
According to database Xgjao used buying engine from Lifan.
Forgotten uploaded the service manual to Google+ photo album. :mwink:https://plus.google.com/photos/10536...COSgnMLfwJu0IQ Although it's in chinese, the drawing will gives u the ideas (How the oil circulate in this engine/ cams etc)
Rebuilt the "copycat" : http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/view...uthorid=343764
Thanks Human!
So the taobao links for 200cc and the cam will fit my engine, just want to confirm before I place an order off taobao :)
Don't take my words. Ask the "experts" around you 1st.
Taiwanese is the "guru" modding these Honda based OHC machine by using "chinese" parts. Ask them http://wolfclub.org/ for other opinion.
hmmmm, its difficult as in the UK no one seems to know anything and most people have a very negative view of Chinese bikes. The USA seem to have more input as most Honda owners chuck Lifan engines into their bikes as its usually cheaper than rebuilding the original Honda engine, but the biggest problem is in other countries the motorbike laws are not as strict so people tend to get bigger bikes usually up around 250cc, rather than play around or tune 125cc engines compared to the UK.
So all in all information is very difficult to find, as the importers Lexmoto don't know much about their own products, plus this engine is new on their line so no one in the UK has really played around with them as all predecessors were the OHV varients.
If you can have a look again for me on taobao and find anything I would really appreciate it as I'm willing to take a gamble on the cam and big bore kit.
Thanks again!
This is your engine, and its 150cc sibling, the 200cc does have a longer stroke it shares with a 223cc.
If there is anyone that races CB125 then they would be the resource for performance cams.
Seems that a 150cc build up would be possible on it, but finding performance parts not so easy if the engine is not being raced.
http://www.lifan.com/English/Industr...6-df8eca5fb9eb
This is the only link i found, http://www.webcamshafts.com/index_bl...le_search.html same as the link I posted before.
Thanks, the cb125 taobao link human posted does seem to match up in shape to my cam as I managed to get cmpo to send me a picture of the stock ones they store, so that will be ordered as a pure gamble with the hope it fits.
Will order that big bore kit as well and increase it to 156cc from my understanding, are there any bigger kits that increase stroke or even kits bigger than 63.5mm as a 65mm piston would take capacity to 164cc.
It's 156 ONLY !!! Std 156 barrel (Jialing / Honda Megapro in Indonesia | std 200 barrel is taller) + flat-top piston (std Jialing 156 is convex http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=17587839133) that found in std 200. Ask the agent to order the Y230 ( ceramic coated piston + better rings http://www.aqatg.com/index.asp ) kit. The std kit is ~Y170Quote:
Originally Posted by arancara
I edited my post before you replied as I was sitting down doing some engine maths and my mind sidetracked as I was replying on my phone, how much extra is the coating and rings?Quote:
Originally Posted by humanbeing
~£6.5 btw the longer life one & the std.Quote:
Originally Posted by arancara
Without trying to sound daft, I am going to be using an agent - taobaonow. But I cannot see the uprated option even the translator isn't helping. Have you got a link or what do I advise the agent?Quote:
Originally Posted by humanbeing
Its my first time doing this sort of thing.
Also what type of piston is required, flat or convex as in translation it all gets lost :S
Just ask the agent will they help u get the Y230 kit in the middle of the page. If NO, change another.Quote:
Originally Posted by arancara
Tbtrends also quite good in those buying from US/ Australia.
Flat unless u modded/changed the head. Std 156 Convex in std 125/150 will knock > noisy > :hellfire:
Thanks human, so I just tell the agent.
I would like this taobao link, however I require the Y230 set he does with FLAT & CERAMIC coated pistons (not convex) and the better piston rings.
I'm a bit confused as with using translate I can't seem to find any mentioning of flat pustons only convex.
Thanks again.
Translate is useless. 平 vs 凸Quote:
Originally Posted by arancara
:lol8: Chinese is easy. WYSiWYG
This is XGJAO's (the OEM of the Lexmoto XTR125) best offering, it has the 223cc engine, that engine does have performance upgrade kits. At least I think it does, if it is the same as the Honda CR230 engine. The body is pretty much a copy of a Yamaha R15.
This thread is informative, when you work on your the engine you should create a step by step thread. List all your bits and sources.
I wonder if Lexmoto could sell the XGJ250-21?
http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v1/221...XGJ250_21_.jpg
Thanks human! Will place order tonight.
That is a very nice looking bike, I might have to look at importing it as I was looking at the uk market and no new chinese bikes out there above 125cc and new japanese etc 250cc> bikes are expensive. Lexmoto are a bit funny they are intrested in a quick sale and the biggest market is the <125cc due to only requiring a cbt and most people who do follow through to a full license don't want to spend masses and younger teens don't have much money, which is the reason for the huge boom and success they have had. So their market plan is spot on, but they are also the owners of chinese motorcycle parts online, again as they said, having more bikes requires a bigger warehouse and stocking so much extra parts for just one 250 motorcycle is not worth it, its also the reason lexmoto don't import many colours of bikes either its to reduce the stock they keep of different fairing colors, more colors mean more fairings etc that they would need to stock for that one bike.
Any chance of more information on thag bike?
Can't thank you enough human! That translation makes much more sense and I can clearly read its ¥230 for the top performance kit as a whole :lol:
I've placed the order today :)
156cc big bore kit has been sent today, camshaft from your link fell through, seller stopped communicating and we continue contacting him for over 2 weeks with still no reply, any other options as I used translate and searched more camshafts but nothing in a similar shape or anything else apart for that seller throwing any results.