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I have the same bike I use a measuring cup clear one liter and drain it all out, if you get over 800-50 ml you overfilled it, its not good to overfill it could push past the rings and make it loose compression. You need to see the oil in the site glass. I have the same bike I measure it each time that way and I think it is 800-850 I get out, but I also lean it and hold it till nothing comes out. Then put the same amount back plus a bit for what is in the filter.
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Thanks MJH! I let out the oil till it was back on the F mark so I think I'm good now. I'll get a measuring cup and dedicate it to measuring my oil when I change it next time. I drove it 20km then noticed the oil so probably no damage done. My first moto so I want it to last.
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Oil: 850ml | Oil + filter: 950ml | Overhaul: 1300ml
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how about this.
I drained my oil, filled it with new one up to the maximum. Than started my bike for few min and turn t off. waited about 3-4 min and checked the oil it was on minimum so i added a bit more up to maximum. Again started, waited, stopped, waited and checked the oil and it was at maximum. The next day I made 170km, today chacked the level before the ride (cold engine) and it turns out there is quite a bit too much oil. Bike was in exactly the same position as before.
When i used 10w-40 mineral i never had any problems, now my brake in period is over so i changed it to 20w-50 synthetic and this happened.
Apart from this i noticed that the engine sounds different. Much better now, with the 20w-50, quieter and more natural. Maybe a bit less power on low gears but maybe its just my imagination....
any help please?
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humanbeing
Oil: 850ml | Oil + filter: 950ml | Overhaul: 1300ml
Sounds about right...
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The site glass can fuck with your head, if you measure it then you can stop that.
I been using 20W 50 since new Yamaha all purpose, but do not start the bike in the winter with that it can hurt the engine.
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MJH
The site glass can fuck with your head, if you measure it then you can stop that.
Ive got YBR250 and there is dipstick there. So what should i do now? drain it, measure the right amount and pore back in? or completely change to the new one?
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I would put new oil in, oil does not cost that much.
I use two cups one for the old oil and one for the new oil.
I set the old oil in the cup next to the cup for the new oil and make them even.
I put back what I take out and keep track of each change to see if it is always the same.
Plus I can see in the two clear measuring cups the color and consistency of old to new.
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I was gonna ride to my girlfriends house and checked the oil and it was below the mark so the site glass is really starting to fuck with my mind as MJH said. Got my cheap measuring cups ready to go so Im gonna drain it and measure it. If the manual says 850ml then thats what Im gonna put in it. Im putting 10w40 cycle oil in it. Whats the diff btwn cycle and motor oil btw?
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You realize that oil changes its volume when it's hot and when it's cold, don't you?
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Yes I do realize that volume changes with temperature. As long as I know that the correct amount is in that chamber I'm fine. Thanks humanbeing for that webpage.
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Keep in mind the clinging inside the engine, you lose the benchmark from the manufacture after your first best guess filling.
Since you overfilled now you have to back off, drain it and check what comes out, if you get over 950ml you put too much in it.
The engine should be hot when changing the oil and you should let it drain for a while, walk away and come back, when nothing is coming out then I lean it to the side more comes out. The fill is left open the filter is removed before draining.
I like the 20W for that bike, but you can run 10W, the difference is temperature outside the 20W is for summer only, its better on the hot summer days but not recommended for below freezing. I never ride it under 50 degrees out so its ideal for me.
There is a Sticky in maintenance for this bike, its has the capacities, I do not think it details oil changes though that is in the owner manual.
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Thanks MJH again for the advice and everyone elses so far! I must seem like a real noob but if it means getting good advice then I'm ok with it. Regarding the oil filter cover. I took the three bolts off the cover but could not get the cover off easily, In fact I couldnt. Are they usually hard to get off or is it just mine?
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Your welcome, I always assume some of the people reading may know nothing this way nothing is taken for granted. You can buy the filter for those online fit is the same as for a GN125 not a DR200, the later is too big.
KN-131
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Im one of those guys that likes good detail in an explanation. Went by local ORielly cause there kn131 filter was 5 bucks online but with a $10 frieght charge i thought better. They had a Wix filter for the suzuki dr200 on stock but since i was fairly certain the filter was for a non kickstart motor. But just in case the filter was a wix 24949. I can prob get the kn or hf 131 on ebay cheap.
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I'll remember that oil filter humanbeing for when I need more. I bought a pack of three HiFlo 131 filters for 13 bucks on ebay.
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jlg059
Thanks MJH again for the advice and everyone elses so far! I must seem like a real noob but if it means getting good advice then I'm ok with it. Regarding the oil filter cover. I took the three bolts off the cover but could not get the cover off easily, In fact I couldnt. Are they usually hard to get off or is it just mine?
They can be hard sometimes. Try tapping with a rubber mallet around the edges. You really need to change that filter ASAP, though. Since it is your first, it will have metal pieces from the break in.
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I plan on doing that soon. Filters are on their way but I'm still safe because I'm under 1000km which is when the manual says to change the filter or did I read that wrong? Change oil every 500 and filter every 1000?
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modron
Apart from this i noticed that the engine sounds different. Much better now, with the 20w-50, quieter and more natural. Maybe a bit less power on low gears but maybe its just my imagination....
any help please?
I take it back! Now engine sounds a lot louder, Id say about 30-50% louder than before on mineral oil.
I didnt drain my oil, i just went to Yamaha dealer and mechanic there checked the level and corrected it a wee bit ( I had a little too much in there). But my engine sounds loud now, Im worried that its because Ive had too much oil in there (for about 300km) and Ive done some demage. I read on internet that synthetic oil cause higher engine noise and its a good thing but am not sure....ehhh...Im worried that I fu....ed it all up :/
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Take it back to the shop and tell them it seems louder, they can check the compression.
