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I need an advice. There's a new dealer in my country who selling a honda CBR150 and CBR250 replica. The brand is YCR CBR150R / CBR250R. He tells me that all honda parts will fit on the bike and the performance is the same as a real honda. It's within my budget so it's tempting. Does anyone know if the parts are interchangeable from ycr/honda and performance wise how it fairs??
What do you advise me about this new YCR brand?
Thanks
Rajiv
I've seen them up for sale, the 150 with the liquid cooled engine looks so idetical, but have yet to hear about any experiences about them but somebody on here will probably chime in with some details.
Kennon
Thanks.
Yeah they look identical right up to the quality and exhaust sound.
I live in Mauritius. A real CBR 150 goes for as much as $7900, CBR250 for $10900 cause of 100% taxes and duties.
YCR is the only thing close enough to a cbr that's within my budget. Unfortunately nobody in my country has any experience with them.
That’s weird the claim of a 100% tax, since that island nation is supposed to have one of the freest economizes, the Mauritius Chamber of Commerce and Industry has no duty rate listed as it is “0” for 87141000 “motorcycles” They only have a 15% VAT. http://www.mcci.org/trade_customs_local.aspx
Honda website does not offer pricing.
http://www.honda.mu/
However…
This add in MauriceMotors.com for a brand new 2013 CBR150 is for 100,000 Mauritian Rupee, that’s only $3,189.00 USD.
http://www.mauricemotors.com/Honda-C...tius14305.html
Are they selling the fakes as real Honda's?
cause her is a 2008 for 95,000, whcih makes little sence if a new one is 100,000
http://motors.mega.mu/ads/bike/ed085...7ab60969807ae/
The Honda has a DOHC six speed, I have not ever seen a Chinese made DOHC 150cc.
I cannot see how it could be identical to the Honda without that engine.
Lots of those for sale and with lots of different engines.
http://fengwangjiang.xianghanrf.com/jmlkrje/
I found this odd 125cc offered by Peace Industry group for sale there.
http://motors.mega.mu/ads/bike/043c8...b3662404aa8f4/
http://www.peacesports.com/21-sports-bikes
The 200cc version of that had an EPA certificate issued for it here in the US, but never was imported.
Nice find for the Rs9500 one. Already called the person to check the bike. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJH
I went to Honda agency in person. They have only CBR250R and up, which it sells at Rs330000 (approx $10500 USD). Another official dealer has the CBR150 at Rs250,000.
That add in Mauricemotors.com is the bike I was talking about. It's not a real Honda. The salesman said it was the YCR CBR150. Looks identical and he claims it's the same engine as a real Honda. Am not sure about 6 Speeds....I think he said it was 5 speed.
Am new to bikes. Please help. I want the YCR...but if I buy it,then parts are not the same sa Honda CBR, am stuck with a bike that has no spare parts when/if it breaks... :(
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanzhai
Those are not worth 3K even if the real Honda is so grossly overpriced.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...id=17549998519
It could have any number of engines in it, the above add has it with the Lifan 150cc
That they use in this bike http://motor.lifan.com/kp150/
It is not an exact engine copy of the Honda, the person that is selling it is a liar.
I don't know what to suggest, the bikes are not replicas, they are massively inferior to the Hondas. Buy 2nd hand or save up for the real thing. You really need to consider the resale value too, even though they cost more the Honda will be cheaper to run and much easier to sell and last much longer.
Exactly. Looks can be deceiving.
I guess I'll wait and go for a 2nd hand one. With some luck I might land a Kawasaki 250 or Honda CBR250.
Thanks for the support people!! You guys saved me my hard earned cash. I appreciate it. ^^
[QUOTE=Rajiv;57850]Exactly. Looks can be deceiving.
I guess I'll wait and go for a 2nd hand one. With some luck I might land a Kawasaki 250 or Honda CBR250.
Thanks for the support people!! You guys saved me my hard earned cash. I appreciate it. ^^[/QUOth
The engine is CBR125, i showed all the pictures on my facebook page,i never said it is DOHC engine.
it is CBR125 engine but 150cc.i don't lie to get client
thanks
Yes, this engine is called CBR125. It has nothing to do with Honda. It is not a replica. It is a reverse-engineered copy of a Honda engine from years before, a much older design. Kaleem, you are not a liar, your Chinese suppliers are trying to mislead you and your customers.
I never showed any pictures of anything.
"Looks can be deceiving."
I meant it looks as good as the Hondas,but doesn't perform like one. Nobody said anything about lying man. Chill.
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Originally Posted by ZMC888
CBR is a type of engine like GS and CG.i don'k if u know about motorcyce,but you know very less
CBR is the name of the Honda Motorcycle that the YCR is a copy of.
http://82664255.qzone.qq.com/#!app=4&via=QZ.HashRefresh
Orginal….
https://www.google.com/search?q=CBR1...R+150&tbm=isch
The YCR are coming out of Baodao which is part of Xinling
http://www.bdmotor.com/
http://www.cnxinling.com/
The Honda copies are not worth much, they can have any number of engines in them and none of the them will have the hp or reliability and build quality of the Honda.
The Honda CBR150 has about 18hp, it has a DOHC water cooled 4-valve engine with a six speed transmission.
There is very poor quality control in the Chinese motorcycle industry, they source and use very poor quality parts. Then have really little or no system for supplying those spare parts. They offer little or no product documentation and if they do its likely to be inaccurate.
The bike is a low quality copy and that’s the truth, it being sold to anyone and everyone for no other reason then in attempt to take Hondas business, they are trying to sell cheap copies often for as much as the original.
Say no to fakes….it hurts respectable industry and in that will eventually hurt you.
https://www.google.com/search?q=CBR1...22.Y_exbsypCfI
You are retarded you know!!!check it
there is somthing that is called new cbr125
and i said cbr 125 engine
u did not go to school??
go and take a look at cbr 125 engine
you are funny
Hmm, Kaleem. So you think that Honda sell a CBR125 engine that's actually 150cc and sell it to some China retard company to put in their shoddy machines?
Really? Why the hell would Honda do that? The Chinese is called an engine 'CBR125'. They did that because they are trying to copy a Honda motorcycle. It is a cheap copy of an old Honda engine. Copied illegally, STOLEN. The bike has nothing to do with Honda.
Honda could sue, but they are too nice.
How is pasting a link showing real CBR125 pictures prove your point?
Ok then here are the specifications for the engine in the real Honda CBR125R, if they are the same as your fake copy, then use them when you sell your fake copy of a Honda CBR125R.
http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/125cc/#!/cbr125r/
Vous pouvez utiliser français pour faire votre argument, vous ne faites pas un bon argument en anglais.
The use of these initials, ie CG, CB and GS represent, a use of common names of common engine types made by specific Japanese manufactures, that the Chinese Motorcycle industry copied. The Japanese use more specific codes to identify their specific engines, the specific engine identities do not match model names.
For example the Honda CBR250R uses CS250RE to identify its engine, the common name of the engine would be a “CBR250” but the actual name of the engine is CS250RE. The actual model name is a MC41.
But why split hairs….or could say its beyond the scope of the course, I go there often, in that you could say I am retarded, but it’s a sort of purposeful retardation.
This coping of a CBR Honda model(s) is happening far and wide within the Chinese motorcycle industry, this specific one, a YCR Peregrine Falcon, is being offered through a subsidiary of Xinling that goes by the name BaoDaio, here is a link on a forum about it from 2012.
http://motorcycle.sh.cn/t_17361177_1.htm
You have to climb though a bramble bush to find any berries in that thread, but they are there and you still have to use a sort of logical filter in finding genuine ones.
Here is a link to one on their website….if that offering makes you want one god bless you, I would not say that decision would make you retarded however your level of intellect would be suspect in that or at least your decision making processes flawed.
http://www.bdmotor.com/sdp/596972/2/...360/SONIC.html
Notice that the Xinling offering have a “CBR” that is a SOHC 150 engine and rated under the actual Honda CBR125R offered in the UK, that real Honda is a 125cc SOHC 2-valve engine and has 13hp@10000rpm were the Chinese 150 SOHC 2-valve has 12.92@9000RPM
The Chinese “CBR150” is not even close to a real Honda CBR150.…that Honda engine again is a DOHC 4-valve with 18hp.
Class dismissed!
you win
but i sell it as they good
and people like it because of the price
If you operate under French law, you could get in trouble for selling those.
The Chinese industry, that being so many of the companies within it make those and so many sell those under so many names they made its really difficult for Honda to address the matter.
However if Honda has dealers on that Island any one Honda dealer could come after you legally for selling those. I am not that up on French law or if that island operates under EU laws. But since these copies are being sold in the UK it seems that enforcement is weak, but actually it’s the retail end that is simply completely and utterly lacking in any knowledge. But all it takes is the Honda dealer to talk with a person that has the knowledge and then schooling occurs.
Who knows… Honda’s legal staff may and likely are considering an action plan, my recommendation are in offering up regional distributor training on how to address violation in their markets and also how to educate local dealer and empower them to take action.
If you got caught selling fake Christian Dior in Paris…its actually considered criminal All it takes is a person that sells the real product to take action .
Thing about vehicles is that they all get registered and then sales can be counted, and the value is recorded to because they are taxed, the sum of that is cumulative damages, the more you sell the more they are likely to come after you.
You might consider dropping any references to winners and losers and switch to what is actually right and wrong and why.