Personally I think the RX3 looks like it would make a good dual sport motorbike 250cc, panniers, spoked wheels, crash bars as standard
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Personally I think the RX3 looks like it would make a good dual sport motorbike 250cc, panniers, spoked wheels, crash bars as standard
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i'm paying close attention to this bike , waiting it's official launch ! august !
I heard this bike has been released. Has anyone bought or tried one out yet?
It is featured/reviewed in this month's Motorcycle magazine (September, 2013).
I'm interested in this bike. I can get it no plates in Shanghai for 19-20K
They should be around in a few weeks at a dealer here. They "look" like a great design...
http://www.chinamotorworld.com/index...a=view&id=1678
I was doing some searches in Chinese for info on this bike and (i think) i found that they plan to have it in stores on the 17th of October. The price is apparently going to be between 19k and 24k.
They may even release a larger displacement version later on.
[URL="http://www.newmotor.com.cn/html/cpkd/38893.html"]
Hey,
Thanks for the info. That website helped. The bike is boosting quite a bit of power. I'm interested.
I looked through your blog. Some good stuff in there. Do you have dates for your trip next spring?
Thanks~
Thanks
At the moment it is planned for late june or early july. Hot time of year yes but as a teacher I don't have any other option. Its also better than heavy rain I suppose.
I'm going to try both the RX3 and the Shineray X5 and decide between those for the trip. Im sort of leading towards the RX3 at the moment but we'll see..
The right time for me...I too, am a teacher. Its really the best time to go I think.
The Shineray runs like 28K correct? But it will have the torque and HP to carry the extra weight well... I would guess. Not sure much about how well it rides as ever shop I went to wouldn't let you ride it! Ergonomics and vibration is huge on such a long trip. Have you been on the X5?
Hi
Anyone recently got the RX3?
Would love to hear some reviews and updates!
I am going to order one within the next week so i should have it by early December. I plan on writing a little something about it once i do.
Does anyone who has experience with zongshen know where i can get a service manual?
Wow, can't wait to hear your report!
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Originally Posted by JoK70
How are you going to order it?
I have found that ordering is pretty easy actually. I just looked on google maps for "motorcycle dealerships" and walked around the area of town where most of the results seemed to be centered. I found two dealerships, neither of which were actually shown in my search by the way, and asked them with my smart phone if they could order the two bikes i was interested in. One is a zongshen dealership but both said that they could get either one so im going to go with the one that helps me out most with the driving license.
Thats the problem now. I tried to order it a few days ago but they said i needed the driving license first. So it might be a few more weeks or months before i get it now, hopefully, before the long break in February, unless one of them can give me a sort of... uhh... "temporary license".. while i deal with the bureaucracy.
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The bike stood up well at Cima I think it will be good :)
Keep in mind that if you order through a dealer that is not an authorised sales agent/distributor then there might be problems in the event of a warranty claim etc. What some dealers do when they are not official sales/distributors of a particular brand is, via their often extensive network, is, buy the make & model the buyer wants, via another authorised dealer, effectively meaning the bike passes through two dealers 'hands', and then onsells it to the buyer, with the buyer often unaware of this, until a warranty issue raises its ugly 'head'. The first dealer though is the official dealership, and any warranty issues etc., will normally require the bike to return to that point of sale, especially if the warrantable item is anything deemed substantial. One needs to factor in the service and support that such a dealer might be able to provide on a make/model they're likely to be unfamiliar.Quote:
Originally Posted by gjackson4431
The other point to keep in mind here, is the seller will tell you anything you want to hear, just so as you can spend your money with them. Once you have spent your money, is often (not always) where the relationship changes.
My proverb: Everything in Ch!na is just for looking, be[A]ware the smoke and mirrors, for nothing is as it seems.
That is a good point. This is a small part of the reason i went with this bike over the X5. I could only find this one zongshen dealership near where im living. I did order the RX3 by the way from an authorized zongshen dealership and it should arrive on the 3rd!
Fingers crossed. When I went to a dealer he recommended RX3 without hesitation. He said that zongshen knows how to make a good bike and hes calm about its quality ;) hah
Here some nice pix
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...id=20210234336
I don't see why you would even consider getting this heavy bike ( that yet has to prove itself), to gain a little bit more off road capability over your YBR? I would go for the X2 in your case, at least you know what you get yourself into and it's more off road capable than this RX3 I'd say.Quote:
Originally Posted by modron
Id be reluctant to rely on the specification for Chinese bikes, they are seldom straight forward and sometimes not accurate and not often apples to apples for comparison, then you have torque and ratios to consider, but for that you need accurate weights as for fully laden.
The RX3 is certainly heavier then the X2 and it is not entirely clear why, might be in part fueled and cases and crash bars…the RX3 is not as dual sport as the X2 however the RX3 appears to be very practical as a commuter and especially with the luggage cases.
Read my reply... 'it's more likely that a PRC seller/dealer will tell you what you want to hear'... in your case modron, the dealer may have a hidden agenda for telling you that. Maybe he receives a better profit margin on Zongshen, maybe there is a more direct relationship with the company, maybe there are too many in stock and he has incentive to help shift the RX3.Quote:
Originally Posted by modron
FWIW, take whatever a seller/dealer in PRC says with a 'grain of salt', maybe two grains.
I know, I know. And i do agree with you that everything is China is just for looking. They sell tangerines in beautiful bamboo boxes padded with satin cloth and styrofoam here where I live.
I did not go to this dealer to ask about the RX3 but about the X2X, X5 and QM250. He came up with the RX3 by himself. As you said maybe he gets better commission from Zongshen.
The interesting thing is that he never heard about QM250...only about QM200 ;)
I really dont.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
What I think of is selling my YBR and buying JH600 or keeping YBR and buying X2. My gf complains that there is no space for her when I put those huge 35l boxes on my wee YBR. I have to think about her a little ;) but still I might just get smaller boxes and the X2 haha dunno
modron your girlfriend will have plenty to complain about sitting on the back of an x2 for any length of time.
You mean hanging of the back of the X2 ;) The first thing I removed from my X2 were the passengers' foot pegs!Quote:
Originally Posted by zhu
If you need a bike that can carry 2 persons comfortably, go for the JH600 or X5.
In my case, since I already had the JH600 I went for the X2 since I wanted a more off road capable bike. Sure it's possible to get the JH through all kinds of terrain, but when it's hot and you're all geared up and carrying luggage and perhaps a passenger, it can be quite tough to muscle the top heavy JH beast through terrain/TIC events. The passengers seat of the JH is more comfortable than the the riders seat in my opinion. Don't get me wrong about the JH, I still love it but am just less eager to take it off road now.
I haven't traveled on my X2 yet, but I would like to in the future. The X2 can carry a passenger but trust Zhu and me, you don't want a passenger on the back for more than a few kilometers! Unless you want to travel like "Dumb & Dumber" (if anyone still remembers that scene from the movie ;)).
If I could only have one bike right now for what ever reason, I would most likely go for the X5. But it would need proper truing of the rims before traveling 2 up on it, it's other weaknesses/need to do's can be found in ShuBen's thread.
Model Curb Weight Power Torque Power to Weight YBR250 152 15.4 19.7 0.101315789 RX3 175 18.5 22.5 0.105714286 GW250 182 18.0 22.0 0.098901099
If I buy the X2 it will be purely for myself. Then I will keep YBR for touring with my gf just will have to fit smaller boxes on it cos with the current ones there really isnt any space for her legs. If I get the JH then no point keeping the YBR.
I would love to have the X5 as it is exactly what im looking for but too many problems with it so i gave up the thought.
Anyway, thanks for the advice
The engine in the RX3 is the same engine that has been in the Megelli, I have not heard anything bad about the engine, nothing with respects to mechanical failures, however every version of it so far has been normally aspirated, this version of it has EFI.
Zongshen has taken over the production of the Megelli line from Hisun and will be offering them under their own brand in China. Its an assumption on my part to say that they must have some confidence in their configuration of the EFI on their NC250 engine and that being why they are going to be offering more models with it in China.
That engine is a Zongshen design or at least they paid for its development, them offering this bike and also offering up the Megelli designs in China is very smart.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...0c2104bd02.jpg
Its not clear if Jiajue will be offering the Zongshen NC250 engine or the Shineray DOHC 250 engine in its new Tomahawk 250.
That is the bike that showed up at CIMA 2013, the bike that is a copy of the KTM Duke 350.
Jaijue offers the NC250 engine, the NC250 and the DOHC 250 in a few of their bikes, they export them only, all of the bikes have carburetors. Eventually that engine is destined to become one of the largest selling engines of any brand, IMO. I would assume that within a couple years you see them offered in China with EFI commonly.
I believe the EFI limits the engines output in power, but I am not an engineer. However I read that the engines max potential output is 30hp..Zonghen is being diligent and conservative in its version ensuring longevity and meeting emissions in legitimacy with their EFI version in their domestic market. I do not believe that they will be offering a normally aspirated version of the engine in their offered line which uses that engine. In that they have a global offering or at least for emissions they do, as for it being EFI it is limited as some developing markets shun technology as they simply cannot support it in the field.
There is not a comparable offering in China for the Shineray X2, however the SSR250 has the NC250 engine and that is an Asia Wing copy for the Honda CRF250 with a NC250 engine. It has a dry weight of 117lbs and the Shineray is at 120lbs, not materially different.
The SSR250 is being offered in the States and not getting any bad press, other then it being a copy of a Honda, but the engine is not its is a NC250. Its off road only same as in China.
I am seeing it as a 5-speed in the SSR, which means not all version of the engines are geared the same and they should not be, they should be geared for the intended purpose.
If you want a dual sport then the X2 is the only legitimate legal choice in China. However if you have a trailer and want to do some motocross then you need no plates, however its not ideal is it. Dual sport aren't that great either way are they, they often end loosing all the parts that make them street legal.
Unless you can afford and can get access to one of the new KTM offerings.