CFMOTO 650TR NEW REVIEW

Hi Guys

Have a new CFMOTO 650TR come the other day so i am not going to do a review on the bike because 2 members on here have done very good detailed reviews on ride,look ect. what i am going to review the things i find wrong with the bike and how we can fix or modified it to make it better .

Bike came ok in a big box all hands ready and waiting bike out the box moved it over to a nice flat piece of gound kick out the side stand and let the bike lean over and i shit my self it kept going and going untill the side stand hit the ground. That is one short side stand i said... to myself ok sat on the bike tried to kick the bike up straight and found because of the acute angle the bike was leaning over it made it very hard to pull up straight before kicking the stand in and i would think if you had stuff in the left hand side box as well would make it very hard to kick up ok now i have found my first modification to do shit me that side stand is just to short i dont need it to lean over so far i am not chinese i said to my self

How to fix

Now we all have our own ideas and how this can be done but here is mine ...

1. Why not just cut of the foot plate .weld a new bit in and just re-weld the foot plate back on "simple as a pimple" i said to myself but on a closer look found the OE side stand not to be a fabricated item but a cast steel item what this means is if it was a fabricated item it would be made out of mild steel and could be welded ok but with cast steel items it could be and most likely because TIC is cast with all the old shit metal and makes is very hard to weld and would i trust a chinese welder to weld it ...... so that number one out the door but please people if you think it can be done crack on and all the best of luck

2. I need to make the foot plate higher by how much .. well after some time messing about with books under the OE plate worked out it needs to be 30mm.
so i had a look on Taobao and found a range of bolt on bike new foot plates called DMV people but these if there need to increase the size of the foot print for when you park on soft gound and are DIY meaning to just pick the right one for you bike and blot it on lovely jubbly as Dell boy would say . so i need a new DMV foot plate 30mm to fit a CFMOTO 650TR well as you can imaging i have 2 HOPES "No hope and Bob Hope " in finding one so i will just have to make one i have the desigh i know the size how hard can it be .

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So off i go to find a piece of aluminum size 40mm x 60mmx 70mm looks about right i need it to be 40mm because the OE foot plate is recessed into the new DMV item

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when i picked up the new block of alumimum it nearly pulled my arm out of it socket shit that is to much weight it will pull the bike over when it is up lol

Need to re-think about this you can see from the picture of the DMV item it has 3 fixing bolts around the side to hold the new boot on but by doing this you increase the overall size of the boot but in my case will increase the overall kg as well, so i decided to only make the new foot boot 6mm wider all round because we need to keep the recessed and just blot it on it will still give me about 25% increased in foot print size but will keep the overall kg down you my think why have the recessed at all ??? but you need this as you dont want the forces of the stand taking the weight of the bike just on the bolts ...

Now i need to find a CNC manchine in a 3rd tier city in China lets not talk about Bob Hope again .. So i find a man who has a mancine that could do the job not a CNC but it has a electric motor on it :clap::clap::clap:

After 2 days we get this back

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Ok not bad when it painted black to match the OE side stand should look ok and only come in at 198 weight in grams so not to bad we cut deep slots on the bottom to decrease the weight and to help it to grip the ground

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with the item back and i was happy with the weight now to blot it on and to check if the 198 grams is to much when up ??? I used 6mm SS blots 30mm long
HEX heads ,i just placed the new boot under the OE stand maked were i was going to blot it used a 7mm drill in the OE foot plate ,then placed the new one under the again and maked the new boot i decided on just 3 blots the blots are only used to hold it on and the recessed will take all the force when the weight of the bike goes onto the stand i drilled the 3 holes with a 5mm drill and tap the hole out with a 6mm tap i used loctite 243 to make sure the blots stay in :riding:

Now with it all done i painted it all black had the bike on a rear bobbing stand all the time kicked up the stand with the new foot on and it hit the stop fully so the 198 grams looks ok i allso looked at how the side stand it fixs to the frame and found it is held on but a blot which has a rubber bush and a locking nut on the back first thing i found was the locking nut on the back was only finger tight torque so please check your bike . now i found by tighten up the front bolt this made the stand a bit harder to kick down which was good because now i can tighten up this nut and keep the stand up with more force to bring it down but not that hard you cant push it down with your foot ok

Ok thats it job done move onto the next job which need to be done and in my case and this only for people in China because we all love a big horn sorry i mean a loud horn the next review is how to fit some nice big horns because the OE horns are about as loud as my wife farting which is no good in china

The picture of the jod done will be in the next post as i can only post 5 pictures at a time

sorry if you find some bad grammar mistakes well because shit happens and i have taken the time to post about the TR

Here are some picture of the bike of what it looks like with the OE stand

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Now some pictures of the lean after the new boot was fitted


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More pictures of finished job


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Ok last few pictures


Now i would like to say this is my attempt to right a wrong but i am happy with it and i hope you are as well


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Good work, clean mod!

Kinda reminds me of those massive shoes that people wear on one foot when they have one leg longer than the other.

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Originally Posted by felix

Good work, clean mod!

Kinda reminds me of those massive shoes that people wear on one foot when they have one leg longer than the other.

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Yes it called a "CLUB" foot . i could not think of no other way to do it that would work ok it so much easy now to lean the bike up. before you would have to dig your left foot in and push over to the right with the OE stand now i just sit and lean over to the right and she is up ready to go thanks for looking

Horn Modification

As i said in the above post the OE Horn is not very loud and realy needs to be replaced here in China . The OE horn is a single type mounted in the front on the left leg side of the bike . What type should i fit ! well you need at least 2 and LOUD but with 2 horn which dont use a electrical relay you need splice into the OE wire to take a feed to the 2nd horn here in china the people just cut the outer plastic of the OE wire and twisted the 2 new cable and tape it up try on find some of these which is a better job To get to the area to mount the horns you need to take the front lower air intake scoop of at the front of the bike it is held on with 4 PK screws.

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The OE horn is held on with a bracket and a singel nut . this is fine to mount 1 of the new horns now the 2nd horn comes with a spare mounting bracket as well you need to attached this bracket as well to mount with the first horn on to the OE bracket and the 2nd horn fix to the spare . Depends on what type and size of horns you get you need to mess about with the brackets to make sure the horns dont hit the engine and the side of left hand fairing plastic . I have looked to see if you can mount the other horn somewhere else and this is a no no

It is allways best before you mount the new horns get them conected and push the horn button to check all works well :scooter:

In the case of my new horn which was quite big and heavy i need to add a second support which with the TR is difficult to find a new mounting support point . in my case i found the left hand side reflector to be perfect for my needs!

Here are a few pictures to help you see how its done

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Job done next job is the lights but i think Bikerdoc has got some New H8 55 W Philips 5000K on the way to him now so i will wait to see how these work out because if the Doc says these are good then i will fit as well.

It is best to fit HID 55 W 6000K but i just dont like the new bike being pulled about by the chinese fitters

Nice couple of mods... Thanks for taking the time to photograph, describe and share with us.

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Originally Posted by 650TR Rider

Nice couple of mods... Thanks for taking the time to photograph, describe and share with us.

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不客气 (bú kè qi)

Your welcome 650TR shit does that bike lean over to far and allso i have found with the new foot on the stand i can get 2L more of fuel in the tank now me and Bikerdoc are working on the lights now then the seat so please keep looking in MCM loads of things going on with the TR in china

And please post stuff what you dont like about the TR you are safe to do for sure lol


Time i have loads no work just lay on the beach with a beer at 12p for a big bottel with a smoke at 60p a pack or just ride about on the bikes with fuel at 76p L shit its hard life here in China

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Cool side stand mod, but really you shouldn't of had to do it. CFMoto really should have ordered longer stands for the TR. NK doesn't have this problem. I wonder why it's so much higher, longer suspension travel possibly.

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Originally Posted by ZMC888

Cool side stand mod, but really you shouldn't of had to do it. CFMoto really should have ordered longer stands for the TR. NK doesn't have this problem. I wonder why it's so much higher, longer suspension travel possibly.

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Thanks ... you are dead right why should i have had to do this CF got it wrong and must of know it was not right you cant even fill the tank up to it capacity and to save money CF just used the NK stand as i said in the post the stand is a cast stand so CF would of had to have a new mould made to cast a longer stand for the TR. The bike club will be in Zimbo next weekend at a dirt bike race bring you NK along so we can all have a look ZMC888

Repair water leak !

Bike brand new out of the box found a very small water leak from the bottom of the water pump. no big thing as it was very small leak and would only leak when first start on when you stop need not leak under load i think ! very hard to look and ride at the same time lol . now my production date on the bike is september 2012 my bike has been in a box for over a year with a dealer thats why i got mine very cheap . so i think if you bike was made after this date you should be fine .Why do i say this because the other day i was in a CFmoto Dealers shop and one of the engineer told me that he has seen this before but on older NK bikes .....

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Picture above you can see the leak from the bottom of the water pump

when the engineer in the CF shop told me about this he allso show me the part that was bad and its the spring loaded rubber seal under the water impeller in the pump housing .

So what happens now !! yes ring CF was told to take the bike to the dealer it come from not so easy some times in china because the dealer it come from was 400km away . was told by CF on the phone no big thing just take it to a shop and get it fixs at my cost . But i said its 2 days old and dont it have a 2 year warranty ..... So the first lesson here is buy a CF at a dealer near you !

NO other CF dealer can order parts or work on it with out you paying

Ok no big thing i am 7000 rmb to the front on the deal so lets just fix the fucking leak and be done with it.

I am lucky because loads of the club members work on there own bikes and are very good friends and help all other bike club members out and most have manufacturing companies and are used to fixing things with machines when these go wrong and must happen a lot here in China lol

Was told by the club boss Mr wang to go to Mr kong shop and all will be sorted
now Mr kong speaks 0% english and my chinese is about 2.99999 % this looks like fun

I did not say northing about what i think was wrong beacuse a lot to do with the 2.9999% but we both got stuck in very quick got to the pump very easy to take it apart , and then Mr Kong was looking at the water pump spring loaded seals i was talking about above . Now its nice when friends like MR kong looks at your bike because no big rush take his time look at every thing cleans all the parts check all the machins faces. then looks at me and points to the seals .. well done spot on my old mate go to the top of the class.

so off he goes on his 50cc small bike and comes back in 10 mins with a new set how the shit did he do that we dont have a CF dealer around here closest ones is 60 km away so i just had to check his bike agian to make sure it was not turbocharger :scooter: :scooter: :scooter:

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Made in China on the bag but what bike is it from ?? will it fit is it right does he know what he is doing this is a new bike i keep thinking to myself.

Had a look at the bits with the OE ones and looks spot on now the new seals are held in the back plate of the pump in front of a nylon bush which is a bit hard to get out but from what i could see Mr kong has done this loads of time before with other bikes . Old seal out new one in took his time used water sealants and sears of oil when needed. looks like a good job . when you fit the back plate of the water pump back on you then fit the water impeller which is held in place by a bolt when Mr kong fitted the impeller back and tighten the bolts the impeller did not spin freely just by a very very small bit maybe it was the new parts maybe it was someting else . Mr kong work out we need a very very thin packer washer now i am talking 1000s now just to pack the impeller out a bit .

So off goes Mr Kong and brings back beer can ? i looked at him and said to my self ONLY ONE or was it time for Mr kong to get pissed . NO it was to cut out a very thin washer ?? now you are talking about a 3mm bolt with the O.D. about 6mm well shit me he done it re-bolted the impeller back tighted up the locking bolt spot on job, well done Mr Kong have a beer :thumbsup:

So thats the story how to fix my water pump . hope you enjoyed the story as much as i did having it fixs

Now very importance there is a lesson to be learn here dont think when the fitter come out with a beer in his hand it is time to get pissed he could just making a washer

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Have a good day

I think mine has this exact same problem, mine is August 2013 manufacture so that's probably a b.s. 'earlier models only' theory, most likely a peasant ingrate putting a seal in the wrong way round on the domestic model line. Did you have to drain the coolant to fix this?

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I think mine has this exact same problem, mine is August 2013 manufacture so that's probably a b.s. 'earlier models only' theory, most likely a peasant ingrate putting a seal in the wrong way round on the domestic model line. Did you have to drain the coolant to fix this?

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Yes drain out all the coolant to do the jod

NEW LCD CLOCK FOR 650TR

With the lack of a clock on the bike it was 1 more small job to do.I needed a clock which was run by batteries... so no wiring needed but because it was a battey clock it did not come with a back light so if i got one which was so easy to see then i dont need a back light for night riding so the one i found on Taobao was this link :

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...id=17861606313

And only cost £1

Hope the batteries will last over a year but it not the clock is only double sided tape on so i can fit new batteries very easy the location i picked which you can see in the pictures is best suited for the clock , it will look better if you have the new export srceen or like Bikerdoc have raised he screen away from the top dash because then you can rise the new LCD clock up a bit further so the clock is level with the bottom of the dash surrounding.

well its my way on having a CLOCK on the TR so now my food is hot when i get home lol

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Nice. There are some little LCD clocks of similar design that slide in and out of a base which would make it easier to remove the clock to replace batteries etc. The one thing I note for my situation is that the clock is located pretty much exactly where I plan to install my smartphone holder. No biggie, I'd simply mount the clock differently. For your application Prince666 it works.

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As far as the smartphone mount, it has three arms that attach to one another. I remove the suction cup arm section and the one that this arm connects into. This leaves a single short arm that has the base which connects into the holder itself. The two other arms are essentially surplus to requirements as they are not needed. Can't buy the short stubby arm and the actual holder though.

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I plan to drill a small hole through the top of the dash and then bolt the arm to it. I've done this on both my Burgman 650 and Jetmax scoots. Works very well. The holder mounts line of sight, allowing easy use and interaction of the smartphone display and especially useful for navigating with the HTC HD2 GPS (GarminXT).

To use this mounting method on the 650TR requires lifting the screen off of the base (top of the dash) which I've done already, so it's a fairly straight forward install. Will do it this evening then link to the install post here.

Here's one Taobao seller with the same smartphone/gps holder.

Do they come in Black......

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Do they come in Black......

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NEW LCD CLOCK FOR 650TR

With the lack of a clock on the bike it was 1 more small job to do.I needed a clock which was run by batteries... so no wiring needed but because it was a battey clock it did not come with a back light so if i got one which was so easy to see then i dont need a back light for night riding so the one i found on Taobao was this link :

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...id=17861606313

And only cost £1

Hope the batteries will last over a year but it not the clock is only double sided tape on so i can fit new batteries very easy the location i picked which you can see in the pictures is best suited for the clock , it will look better if you have the new export srceen or like Bikerdoc have raised he screen away from the top dash because then you can rise the new LCD clock up a bit further so the clock is level with the bottom of the dash surrounding.

well its my way on having a CLOCK on the TR so now my food is hot when i get home lol

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The clock looks good.