Gonna order this or the A version with the standard forks next week. I much prefer the springer front end, but I really need rider input on this version about the ride and any mechanical problems with the springer forks.
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Gonna order this or the A version with the standard forks next week. I much prefer the springer front end, but I really need rider input on this version about the ride and any mechanical problems with the springer forks.
I'd go back and post in Barnone's thread, that noob doesn't own it.
I know for a fact ur concerns were addressed there, I had lots of questions about handling when I first got my springer, questions were asked.
BTW, there aren't any 'problems' with the springer that I'm aware
Its a simpler system than oil forks so if anything the should hold up over time just as well or better.
Chinese chrome isn't known to be the greatest, but nothing on either vmodel is. I keep mine out of the rain, that alone keeps it as new as the day it arrived.
But I have a feeling u might be more concerned with the ride. Well, its a hard tail springer, don't expect anything that handles any better.
You feel everything and should be aware of the road. Takes getting used to.
Thank-you for your response. I am concerned a little about the ride but this, like most Chinese bikes/scooters, is more hobby than transportation. With that said, and this being a new release, I was more concerned about issues with the springer front end. You're sure right about the chrome. I looked at the warranty on a trike I had interest in, and the chrome was warranted for only 10 days. Hate the z-bars, but that rise makes it a little easier to add short apes without trying to find cables and hoses. As for the noob, I just figured he was an only child, but why disrepect the rest of the forum by getting into a rucus. Really, after over 500 posts the thread is: 1) check the chain and valves. 2) Install a 35t sprocket. 3) Maybe: swap jets, fix the headlight, or replace the shift rod. That is a very positive statement as to the quality of these bikes. So is there a thread started that deals with the springer? Again, thanks for your input.
There is no thread about the springer specifically, just my posts in that thread. I was pretty disappointed at first as I only rode sportbikes prior, but then i supposed i got used to the ride and am pleased with the bike.
I liked the ape zbars , I liked the springer so it was an easy choice for me at the time
I needed an intro to bobbers, but that said I got tired with the lack of power 1000 miles in and now building a new one from scratch . the doner bike is not a springer but wish it was.
These springers I believe are DNA, so I think u can read about them elsewhere, about 400$ plus break hardware if u want it later
Thanks for the input. Leaning towards the springer, but the $300 premium would pay for the stuff I want to do. Tx treats bikers very well as we are required to have neither fenders, turn signals or helmets. Do you have problems riding without that front fender? I've been told that I'll throw rocks and such into the engine.
Never been on a sportbike, but I can imagine that the transition to almost any other style would be a lirrle "tame" My last was a 97 Valk. Quick as almost any thing out there.
No problem regarding the lack of front fender, then again I only ride on clean paved dry roads. And the one time I got caught in the rain, I only noticed a wet back from my chopped rear fender than any thing from lack of front.
Ultimately I believe the only thing u might not be satisfied with is the massive lack of power even over the underwhelming handling.
Lack of power will be OK cause I ride in town and rarely see fifty. Does confuse me a little because my wife has a little 150 Chinese scooter that has no trouble with 60mph indicated. I have a 150 trike that doesn't mind 60 at all. Both use the 157 QMJ honda clone. All of my scooters have upgraded CDI, coil, plug, an hi-flo fuel pumps. The trike has those mods except it now has no fuel pump, a gravity fed early sportster tank and gravity feed 1/4 inch lines with a high fuel flow filter. The fuel line/filter is something I'n going to explore on the bike.
I will order the chopper Fri, but still not sure if the springer is worth the extra bucks. I'm kinda old so the idea of a hardtail springer just sets well with me. You seem to be one of the few who one one. This will be just something to ride in the country and mess with when I retire in next summer.
Looked up DNA springer reviews. Most are using on sporsters and up Harleys and are not happy, but a little 229 cc bike won't impose nearly the stress. Commom complaint was that the springer rattled. Does yours?
No rattle, its solid in that regard. My only gripe is that it is that it acts like a set of springs, obviously...Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadkill
So when your riding and you hit a seeming inconspicuous bump in the road, one that you wouldn't normally even notice, you will notice.
Or in the worst case you have taken your hand off a grip for whatever reason and you hit a bump, or worse a big bump, its real unsettling in the split second everything shakes and you fear your going to lose handle...
Ive never rode another so I wouldn't know if any other is any better.
Keep digging and you find a dampener system that attaches to these springers
http://tinyurl.com/oxmne9o
now you have a complete shock absorbers... cant say well it actually works though i would like to try.
seems like your call comes down to the cost and ride against aesthetics.
i dont know what is the deal with the 167fmm engines as compared to other honda clones but your not likely to get anything more out of it.
there are no performance upgrades available. im set to deck and port my head, which im now doing on my LS650, with its big bore and quad valves i see the value it could add, but even this extreme on the tiny 167fmm, i dont see the gain.
but if you find the magic do let us know.
Well, a last min change of heart. I have decided to order a scooter! No where near the cool factor, but it is 257cc water cooled and fuel injected. Hydraulic lifters and will do close to 80. Except for routine PM and the PDI, I shouldn't have to get under the plastic much and I do grow weary of wrenching from time to time. It's a BMS 260cc Scooter Type TBX EFI. I do thank you for all your input.
WOW!, big change of direction.
I did. and everyone raves about it. EFI is Delphi and the engine doesn't require valve adj. May still have to shift focus back to the bobber. The scoot seems to be hard to come by. I've found nothing but praise for the scoot but I'm ready to buy now.
Passed on the scooter and ordered the glide version, (matt black). from extremescooters.biz. Also ordered the 38T sprocket, and white jell grips from Old Bike Barn. Went 38T because of reported mounting lug issues and I wanted to reduce torque a little. Sounds crazy as hell, but I'm thinking of painting her olive drab with WWII emblems. Powder coat rims and spokes black.
Out of here.
Deleted?
I don't want this thread.
Glide refers to the "standard" forks/shocks on modern bikes as opposed to springer/girder front ends that were used prior. Had I seen your simple question posted above the photo, I would have answered. Usually just lurk on forums gaining what info I can and then ask questions if I have any.
Sorry to all about the off track blow-up. The other thread is just so large and hard to find info on that I will continue to post questions and comments on this one and hope someone reads and responds. I will try to limit my posts to tech and mods. I see great value in the other thread as community is an important part of the expierence, but I am more interested in facts. If you have tech or mod info, please feel free to post it here also.
I ordered the glide version on Fri for $2K plus shipping. I see that they have raised the price of both versions. The glide went up $448 and is within about $150 of the springer. That should increase sales of the springer! The only reason I chose the glide was the price difference. Scooter Depot is still adding the $99 surcharge and calling it a parts warranty. Must be legal, but sure not honest and a good indication of their business ethics.
Roadkill,
I'll stay off this thread so you can have it to yourself.
Gokarts USA under parts, bobber custom parts, has a few parts for Tha Heist that might fit our bobbers. Nothing performance - mostly seat and cosmetics.
Barnone, I have great respect for both your skill and knowlege. I, as do others who might read this thread, will welcome any tech support you might wish to provide
Due to comm problem extremescooter.bz is sending me the springer for the same price as the A version! I've been extremely happy with the service so fat and the bike ships tomorrow.
Just for general info. There is a vendor called banggood.com out of China that has a lot of stuff for motorcycles. It's mostly cosmetic and generic. I've ordered several times and the quality has always been good as is the service. It does come from a warehouse in China so there is the usual delay in shipping. Just do a search on their site for "motorcycle"
So the springer arrived and I'm impressed. I noticed that the cables and brake line are very short. They look like they might be a little stressed even. Normal for both the A and B? Also, when the bars are full left or right the engine speed goes up by about 200 rpm. I am trying to figure out why this happens and tracked it to maybe binding at the fork head. Does anyone out there have this issue?
On ebay, a vendor called Sam Power Sports (sampowersports1) is selling a P-pad for about $30 with free shipping from the US. It's the 5 1/2 X 9 model and it fits perfectly. I would never carry a passenger on this or any other bike. However, it is a great looking cosmetic addition. It's supposed to be removable, but I can't get it to stick. I'm going to use tape to mount it. SKU is 180141A. I don't have a picture of it mounted and I can't post a link, but it's worth hunting down.
This has become pretty much a dead thread, but I've found a "racing CDI" that seems to have made a big difference in the power curve and also reduce some of the mid and upper range popping I was experiencing. This is a combination package with both coil and CDI, but I wasn't impressed with the coil and ordered one from another vendor. The CDI features no rev limiter which doesn't matter much cause I think it would be hard to hit the stock limiter under normal operating conditions. It does have a 4 degree advance that has made a big difference in my application. That advance has not caused any starting kickback. Here is the address: http://www.ebay.com/itm/250908061794...84.m1439.l2649
The coil arrived today. Plug and Play just like the CDI. I spent maybe 20 min installing both and am very pleased with the difference. I didn't notice much at the low end which is as I expected, but mid range right through her max is very much improved. Here is the link for the coil:http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Perform...item2338aad229