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Skyteam V Raptor 250..... New bike for my wife...
Hi China moto'ers
My wife is now the proud owner of a Skyteam V-Raptor 250...I found it second hand at a local bike shop, three and a bit years old but with only 1100kms on the clock...Stupidly cheap for such a pretty bike, and so far, (We've clocked up around 120 miles in the last week), it seems like a great little bike.
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I've spent a couple of days prettifying it with some vinyls and matte black brushwork, (It was looking just a little tired in places), but mechanically it seems good to go! I've read that Skyteam have approved a carburettor/gearing upgrade which gives a little more midrange uuummph and wondered if anyone on here had had their bike modified?
I'll keep posting as we continue to increase that odometer number...
Cheers
Everyone
Vince Raptor
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Hey Krasi
Good to meet you!
Those side racks look pretty useful :icon10:
Did you get the coil sorted?
Skyteam now have a reasonably large dealer network in the UK and an online parts service...
http://www.skyteammotorcycles.com/
Don't know where you're based but they may ship internationally.
Cheers
Happy riding!
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Re: Skyteam V Raptor 250..... New bike for my wife...
Magneto was sorted long time ago. I checked with the UK importer, but didn't like their price, so purchased it directly from the factory (as weird as this sounds).
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Glad you're sorted...Sorry, I probably should have worked out the thread was a bit ancient :icon10:...I'm a bit new to forums.
Straight from the factory can't have been easy, (unless you speak Chinese)...How did you manage that?
Cheers Krasi
VR
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Re: Skyteam V Raptor 250..... New bike for my wife...
No, Mandarin, just plain, old English via email. Much to mi surprise! I used a TaoBao agent (extra 10%) to handle the transportation from China to Bulgaria as the factory does not offer good "retail" shipping :D
Actually 2.5 years ago, when I decided I want this bike I contacted them and they sent me an offer for just one bike, no problem. But then I found a guy in Bristol who sold me one for pretty much the same price if had shipped it and import-taxed it from China.
So, the moral of the story is that Skyteam factory seems unusually customer friendly and responsive. I can only imagine if you call a Honda factory asking for spare parts :naughty:
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hi guys will be happy to share details and tips about this bike..................while you bought it for your wives I bought a preonwed one for MYSELF from someone else's WIFE, LOL
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Originally Posted by
Krasi
No, Mandarin, just plain, old English via email. Much to mi surprise! I used a TaoBao agent (extra 10%) to handle the transportation from China to Bulgaria as the factory does not offer good "retail" shipping :D
Actually 2.5 years ago, when I decided I want this bike I contacted them and they sent me an offer for just one bike, no problem. But then I found a guy in Bristol who sold me one for pretty much the same price if had shipped it and import-taxed it from China.
So, the moral of the story is that Skyteam factory seems unusually customer friendly and responsive. I can only imagine if you call a Honda factory asking for spare parts :naughty:
The difference is that you are far more likely to find a Honda (Kwaka, Yamaha, Suzuki) dealer/agent, who'll more than likely be able to assist... after sales, service, support, parts & manuals etc... therefore no need to contact 'mother ship'... just sayin...
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Originally Posted by
Krasi
No, Mandarin, just plain, old English via email. Much to mi surprise! I used a TaoBao agent (extra 10%) to handle the transportation from China to Bulgaria as the factory does not offer good "retail" shipping :D
Actually 2.5 years ago, when I decided I want this bike I contacted them and they sent me an offer for just one bike, no problem. But then I found a guy in Bristol who sold me one for pretty much the same price if had shipped it and import-taxed it from China.
So, the moral of the story is that Skyteam factory seems unusually customer friendly and responsive. I can only imagine if you call a Honda factory asking for spare parts :naughty:
old English? Did you lead in with thou shall?
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Wow, that's an old thread resurrected!
Meanwhile, Skyteam has a nice "European" distributor now:
http://www.skyteammotor.com/def/?navigatieid=1
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Re: Skyteam V Raptor 250..... New bike for my wife...
been away from the forum for a while............but used this time well
under my indications, my mechanic took all "euro 3" pollution stuff away from the bike, changed shock adsorber with a used Hornet 600 one, took air filter box away and put a cone filter on carburator
made forks a bit stiffer, fixed some electrical problems and some noises, changed some nuts and bolts in the frame/engine connection area
put a tiny riser under side stand as the bike got higher with the new shock adsorber
it's a completely new feeling
road handling has dramatically improved as well as riding with passenger
top speed is probably the same but the way it reaches it is better and the aspiration noise...........man, it's GREAT !
next steps foreseen are taking away cat from exhaust and changing the original Dunlop tyres with the quieter TW 203 and 204 Bridgestone ones
wanna let other owners know (in case they prefer the "trail style" tyres) that Vee Rubber (Thailand) also produces measures (VRM 274 and 275) to fit the V-Raptor
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Vince Raptor
Hi China moto'ers
My wife is now the proud owner of a Skyteam V-Raptor 250...I found it second hand at a local bike shop, three and a bit years old but with only 1100kms on the clock...Stupidly cheap for such a pretty bike, and so far, (We've clocked up around 120 miles in the last week), it seems like a great little bike.
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I've spent a couple of days prettifying it with some vinyls and matte black brushwork, (It was looking just a little tired in places), but mechanically it seems good to go! I've read that Skyteam have approved a carburettor/gearing upgrade which gives a little more midrange uuummph and wondered if anyone on here had had their bike modified?
I'll keep posting as we continue to increase that odometer number...
Cheers
Everyone
Vince Raptor
This is a very nice looking bike, but I would be curious to know how it handles with those fat tires.
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ordered bridgestone tw203 and 204, will mount them soon and report on ride feeling
few days ago I had the final confirmation about the need for less "offroad style" tyres...........on a rainy day and on irregular road going downhill was bringing my son to school.......each touch on rear brake pedal between tight turns meant a extra beat to my heart and a tremble on my wrist veins
hope aftermarket carburetor and exhaust will follow soon
enjoy your Raptor everybody !!!
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by the way.............no problems at all on dry roads.............no experience yet on offroad tracks..............even if it tickles my curiosity, I am mostly a paved road rider
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Dottore, slipping is normal occurrence. It can be scary, but you are not noob rider.
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Yeah, slipping is not a biggie, but if you are uncomfortable of that you definetly should spend time on dirt and mud, or on whatever, and learn by your spinal to react correctly to slipping, so that it become the second nature to you.
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you are both so right my serbian and finnish friend but..............as long as i'd LOVE to take courses and pratice about dirt/mud/offroad/motard riding...............I have to face reality and my usual roads..............mostly city (and YEAH roads can be pitiful in Naples and resemble offroad in some ways) and highway (just a bit and on short distances only, I have no protection against wind and riding at 80-100 Km/h while cars/trucks around me speed a lot faster can be pretty SCARY)
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I once felt it a bit scary on a highway in winter when the road was a bit of a mess of snow, and 5 meters behind me and MZ a truck came like a train :eek2: Did not want to make a mistake there :lol8:
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well I took Dunlops off and mounted Bridgestone TW 203 and 204 and so far it feels a lot better on dry road in terms of reduced vibrations and roadholding............we are experiencing one of the mildest driest warmest seasons I remind so it's gonna hopefully take a bit longer to test them on wet roads...............no complains at all about it
while i was dealing with new tyres my mechanic gave me a good suggestion so I took off catalyzer from exhaust too.............a well spent 30 euros to the welder guy and 45 minutes of a sunny saturday morning............and the bike gained a bit more strenght without adding any noise
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i am now looking for a bigger carburetor (Keihin or Mikuni or Dellorto or Polini, a bit bigger than the original 30 size) and a aftermarket exhaust terminal too
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My two... liras: maybe carb with bigger throttle diameter wouldn't be better then stock 30 mm carb. IMO, with bigger carb, displacement of the engine and design of the motor head and valve train can not provide required speed of air-fuel mixture through on low and mid revs. As a result, only improvement you could feel on high revs. Better ask someone who's been dealing with carbs.
You can try to rejet your stock carb and experiment with needle position and see how bike runs.
Or you can try some 28-30 mm CV or slider carb with acceleration pump...
And I don't know what to say you about exhaust. I know - it is hard to find in Italy something that can suit you. http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/sad/sad-...y-emoticon.gif
LeoVince, Jollymoto, Marving, Arrow, Giannelli, G&G, MIVV, HP Corse, Termignoni...
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as usual I thank every useful advice about tuning...............yeah I thought about that too, bigger is not always better especially when dealing with carbs on non sporty engines
when I had my 400 cc DRZ I wanted to install a 39 FCR Keihin instead of the original Mikuni 36 but the bike has gone before I could proceed (by the way I am trying to resell this nice used carb I had got on Ebay)
but I still would love to see how the V-Raptor goes with a FCR Keihin or VM/TM Mikuni...........and yes you're right again, maybe in this case it wouldn't be really useful to get a bigger size carb
about the exhaust, i was going to order that nice one seen on youtube but unfortunately forme it's not legal for road use (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL3DL7sK_SA)
so I am going to check at local part stores and find something that can fit it............i thought I could look for something that could fit the Van Van Suzuki but am not sure if frame hooks are in same positions
online there's a lot of cheap terminals from eastern europe and China but most of them are not legal or replicas of famous brands (i.e. Yoshimura, Akrapovic and so on)
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I've just sharing my thoughts - that wasn't advice. I'm not specialist, I'm not more than enthusiast with even more questions.
I'm also tempted to try out some Chinese clone of "Keihin" CVK 18 on my "motorino", to see what those CV carbs can do. But, carb I need is pretty cheap, and those you mentioned earlier are not... "reasonably priced". What kind of money are you talking about? 80 or more euros for plain slide type VM, 100+ euros for flat slide TM and three times more for some FCR? Buoni come il pane, ma abastanzza costosi!
Just a few days ago, one guy from the US was cleaning carb on his "Zongshen"... But not to tell you all the story, here is link and see for yourself: http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...ll=1#post78817 . So, maybe this "reasonably priced" Chinese-made CV type "Teikei" can be nice addition to your bike.
About the exhaust: so, you like this low pitch thumping sound? Me too! :icon10: Somehow, in my mind, this kind of exhaust sound triggers word "Supertrapp" - exhaust which can be tuned by adding or subtracting discs. Even "Ducati" on idle sounds nice with "Supertrapp". And they are street legal.
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And that's I fitted my directly with an open can from a pitbike :D
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Look who's back!
I hope that "lytenica" and "turshiya" making campaign is finally over for you. :clap:
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on my profile pic you can see the final solution for exhaust change..............a Highway Hawk Megaton (or Megafon, not sure) terminal, obviously NOT legal for road use and too noisy as it is, so the seller advised me to add a VW DBkiller in it...........that's what my welder guy did and the result was pretty cool, didn't even need to readjust carburetor..........beefier sound when you turn on and "masculine" tose when you rev up
wish I could post that my raptor was now easily reaching 120 km/h like some friend said before on another website...............not sure if I ever reached that, but surely it took a LOOOOOONG launch to do so
moreover, travelling for too long at that speed, each and every time I f**k up some headlight or taillight bulb or some other part gets lost due to heavy vibrations
since I still have a pretty heavy hand on throttle, few days ago I almost messed up my engine during a highway speeding..............engine suddenly lost power and almost died so I instantly pulled clutch to avoid tire block and stopped in a park area
few minutes after I slowly moved to my mechanic with a strange sound coming from engine head
he confirmed my suspect about a initial seizure (not sure if this is the right to define piston and cylinder starting to get stuck due to overheating, although oil level was ok, but this happened to me in the past on both 2-stroke and 4-stroke engines while I was speeding a lot for too long)
he suggested me to just get going and avoid further speeding cause this bike is not meant to be used like that, but the noise is still there and I feel frustrated as anybody can imagine..............what's the use in riding a bike when you cannot speed from time to time ?
it sounds like riding a ill horse that can just trot and not gallop...........
he thinks the only reason to open engine would be substituting the whole power unit (piston, cylinder ans so on) and so far it's not worth the expense
anyhow, should this be the case, does any of you raptor owners out there know about websites where I can find aftermarket pieces (even better if they are NOT from Skyteam and if displacement is a bit bigger than 223 cc) ???
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I almost messed up my engine during a highway speeding....
You can only blame yourself on that one.
IMO IF you need to go faster than 120KM/h then buy a bigger C.C. bike.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :clap:
Try fitting one of these next time .........
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Link.......http://www.trailtech.net/digital-gau...e/742-et2-5193
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thedoc62
on my profile pic you can see the final solution for exhaust change..............a Highway Hawk Megaton (or Megafon, not sure) terminal, obviously NOT legal for road use and too noisy as it is, so the seller advised me to add a VW DBkiller in it...........that's what my welder guy did and the result was pretty cool, didn't even need to readjust carburetor..........beefier sound when you turn on and "masculine" tose when you rev up
wish I could post that my raptor was now easily reaching 120 km/h like some friend said before on another website...............not sure if I ever reached that, but surely it took a LOOOOOONG launch to do so
moreover, travelling for too long at that speed, each and every time I f**k up some headlight or taillight bulb or some other part gets lost due to heavy vibrations
since I still have a pretty heavy hand on throttle, few days ago I almost messed up my engine during a highway speeding..............engine suddenly lost power and almost died so I instantly pulled clutch to avoid tire block and stopped in a park area
few minutes after I slowly moved to my mechanic with a strange sound coming from engine head
he confirmed my suspect about a initial seizure (not sure if this is the right to define piston and cylinder starting to get stuck due to overheating, although oil level was ok, but this happened to me in the past on both 2-stroke and 4-stroke engines while I was speeding a lot for too long)
he suggested me to just get going and avoid further speeding cause this bike is not meant to be used like that, but the noise is still there and I feel frustrated as anybody can imagine..............what's the use in riding a bike when you cannot speed from time to time ?
it sounds like riding a ill horse that can just trot and not gallop...........
he thinks the only reason to open engine would be substituting the whole power unit (piston, cylinder ans so on) and so far it's not worth the expense
anyhow, should this be the case, does any of you raptor owners out there know about websites where I can find aftermarket pieces (even better if they are NOT from Skyteam and if displacement is a bit bigger than 223 cc) ???
That’s unfortunate, it is not likely that Skytean manufactured the engine, they likely buy them from another manufacturer, what is stamped on it?
If you do decide to pursue a new engine it will require allot of effort on your part to get one.
They can be found here: https://world.taobao.com/
This may help?
Similar engine?
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If he is located in Italy he could search for a 233cc. In Poland you can buy lifan/loncin engines 233 ohv with balancer.
For example here you have one without balancer
http://allegro.pl/silnik-250-cc-romet-zetka-benzer-zipp-junak-20km-i6312766284.html
Thedoc62 if you do not find the engine in Italy pm me. I know a spediton which transports goods to itally. Maybe they can bring you engine from Poland for low price.
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Raptor has gone to wreckage
got a new bike now
see you guys around....................