Also known as New sensation Motorcycle Co., Ltd. Chongqing
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Also known as New sensation Motorcycle Co., Ltd. Chongqing
XGJAO is offering some new models, this one is a Standard.
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The bike looks to be sporting a 200cc OHC Zongshen engine, with a balance shaft.
These are being offered for sale in China for 12800 RMB, which is about $2,000.00 USD.
They come with the 223cc OHC.
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They are dropping in rank; they are now at the 50th position in total production as of Feb 2014. But that alone means little, as the production is excessive for the entire industry.
Lost 14.44% in production and have .27 of the total industry production, that is a bit more than a quarter of a percent.
50 New sensation Motorcycle Co., Ltd. Chongqing 8546 9988 -14.44 0.27
Their value per unit is falling too…as of Feb 2014
40 New sensation Motorcycle Co., Ltd. Chongqing Units to date Last year same time Change Value in USD Unit Average value 5056 6024 -16.07 3,924,200 776.15
Argentinian company Zanella imports the XGJAO XGJ250 as there RZ25R
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Zanella also import the XGJ250-21A as their TZ25 naked.
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XGJAO exposes too much risk to their distributors with their copies of known models. They need to hire some designers and alter away from replicas, who does not like the Yamaha Serrow?
I would like one Yamaha sells them in the USA as an XT250 and for $5,190.00, they are not identical at all, different frames and engines, brakes etc, they just look the same.
XGJ250GY-6
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These are offered by Arora in Turkey.
XGJA XJ150-19, as the Arora AR180-19
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They sell for about $1900.00 in tureky for the 180cc version and the same bike sells in China with a 150cc engine for about $1500.00
https://www.arora.com.tr/
These are pretty basic, 223cc OHC, PZ30 carburetor.
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Junak is offering a 125cc version of the XGJAO
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There is different configurations of the XGJAO that goes by the model name XGJ150-31 or XGJ150-3B
This one is interesting...
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The scrambler looking XGJAO does interest me the rest all seem copies of YZF R125 and SX125 designs bar the engines being Honda in look, I just wonder how the XGJAO 250 won the national production 250 championship when it's based on a CB125 twin with double the CC's and liquid cooling
Yeah the scrambler is ok, not going to get much attention as it is though.
It still has some
garish parts left on from the standard version, the headlight for one, Plus it is not a robust design, look at the front brake, all over cheap is the theme.
What is this about a 250cc twin?
http://www.kickstartershop.de/media/...mb/14116_0.jpg better headlight more fitting for the off road version.
I would like to see that design transferred to a Honda XL230 frame and for the OHC 223cc motor to come with it.
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"Qingqi" offers interesting scrambler with U-Zeal family design. Even muffler is on the right place.
This XGJAO is not bad too, although, when I saw it, my first thought were Italian "regolarità" bikes, but even so, some details are simply "not on the subject": hand guards, gauges and mud guard. Perhaps a better solution would be trimmed chrome mud guard borrowed from a common cabbage bike.
And what the hell is that water drop shaped behind the neck stem? :eek2:
a horn maybe?
If does not play "La Cucaracha" - I'm not interested. :lol8:
MJH, the sports bike they make the 250 comes as a single or twin cylinder which is similiar to the engine used by Regal Raptor I read about it from Vietnamese sites that rebadge them as Phoenix R250
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Phoenix R250 "Visitor"
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Those are not new. Just google "Patron Blaze 250", "G-Max Racer 250R", "Viper ZS 250 R-1".
These are assembled in Vietnam under the Brand name "VISITORS" as a R125, R175, R250 Phoenix.
I really wonder about the engines in these?
The rated output represent that Vietnam has no emission regulations at all?
23HP for the 250 and 19 hp for the 175. Content is all in Vietnamese, I am reading the 175cc is a twin 4-Valve, water cooled too. (all twins have four valves)
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You can see the twin exhaust in the Bios 175 and yes it looks like a Lifeng engine.
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I would assume that both of these Vietnamese brands; REBEL USA and VISITOR are State Enterprises in Vietnam.
They look to be working cooperatively with Chinese suppliers; Loncin, XGJAO and Lifeng.
The Vietnamese ones are CKD's I do think possibly the 250 twin is only available in Vietnam then looking at the specs of the 250 in China very low power output.
one source is claiming 30.36BHP from the Liquid cooled 250 twin I know there is a lower rated oil cooled twin
The largest displacement of that engine is 320cc and when tuned to meet modern emission standards it only generates 24hp. That’s with it set up with a Delphi EFI.
That’s not to say that the engines could not be configured without regard to emissions. Also somebody contributed a bad translations into google, it translate power in kW into HP, HP does not translate to Kw it converts, so the claimed 23kw rating is likely mistranslated from what is hp. However it is not impossible to get 30hp out of a 250 twin but not if emissions are regulated, it could be tuned up but would not meet any modern standards for emissions, also if you add water cooling that really brings more potential. If we go back to Honda air cooled twins before 1976 you see their real potential.
The CB350 was really 325cc and offered up 36hp (27kW) water cooling that engine would not reduce emissions output but certainly would reduce overheating.
I am just theorizing, it is more likely that they simply are making exaggerated claims or the real numbers are getting lost in translation, the 250cc is likely getting 23hp and not restricted for emissions.
They claim 19kW for the 175cc twin, more likely 19hp and only if it is unrestricted for emissions.
I really think that somebody is just grossly overrating the specs.
Rebel USA is offering a 170 version of the engine they are claiming 13 bhp for it? Since none that take pen to paper seem to have any real consideration to accuracy, it's really difficult to reference anything as factual.
bhp is the braking hp apposed to what is coming off the crank, its read on a dyno off the rear wheel.
It depends most manufacturers rate the engine power not how much it puts down to the ground plus a lot of Dyno's for over estimate by a degree of error. The reason why manufacturers rate engine power off the crank is down to engine Dyno's in which they test the parameters of the engines and get values depending on tune that will be used on the road.
here is the companies website. http://www.visitor.com.vn/
The error is in translation as mã lực translates to horsepower not kilowatts.
23 hp for the 249cc twin.
That is their claim, which in itself is liberal as the engine in the NAC25 is rated at 20hp.
It looks like they intend to put the 350 (320cc) twin in both of the XGJAO frames.
The website is under construction, you may or may not get a glimpse of it or get redirected to http://www.motorock.vn/
it all a dogs dinner.
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Engine: 2-cylinder, 4-stroke, air-cooled
Displacement: 174cc
Max Power: 10.8 KW / (8000 ± 5%) 14.7hp
Max Torque: 13.0 N.M / (7000 ± 5%)
Transmission Type: 2-step, 5 numbers (the hand)
Ignition Type: D.C.D.I (Digital CDI)
Front Suspension: springs, hydraulic shock absorbers
Rear Suspension: monoshock
Front Brake: Disc 1
Rear Brake: Disc 1
Weight: 146 kg
Top Speed:> 120km / h
Front Tire Size: 110/70-17
Rear Tire Size: 140/70-17
ahh good catch MJH never thought yo look at the Vietnamese words if it was in Chinese it would sound the same.
The emission standards for motorbikes are at Euro 2 in Vietnam today, however they will raise the standards to Euro3 as of 2017. Since these are for sale in China with the 250 @ 20hp and the 320 @ 24hp those would be the outputs of the bikes in 2017. For now they could be a bit better tuned and that would explain the marginally better numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kennon