Right... That's me done, I'm outta here!!!

Come to the end of the line of the most expensive motorcycle ownership experience ever!!!!

Have lost many, many thousands of UK pounds through this ownership experience, glad to be out of it..

Bit the bullet, took the huge loss and gone back to a Japanese producer, for my own sanity hopefully recapturing that pleasant motorbike ownership experience.. Just couldn't take any more of this poor ownership experience!!!

Thanks to everyone on here who has provided help and guidance during my brief ownership of the bike.

I may pop up every so often to see what's happening, but that will be more for the people rather than the bikes ;)

Cheers to all

Well, I would classify your problems with the 650TR as "baby aches" as it's a new model, but since they're making you miserable you're right to ditch it. Life's too short to spend it on unpleasant experiences :thumbsup:

now pay attention that it doesn't get too boring. ;-)

Since I sold my Shineray X5 I have nothing to wrench anymore as my new bike is just starting at start, stopping at stop, nothing brakes, and after 6500km i had nothing to do than riding. That causes the problem of having so many km on the bike already. ....
Maybe I should hurry to clock on the 10k so that I have at least a maintenance check :-)

Should I buy a little real crappy piece and rip it to pieces so that I have something to do on rainy days?

... or maybe ???

Barry, lets wreck one of your bigs ..... I provide beer, tools and garage space :-)

Sorry to see you go....
You are the type of person who deserves a decent reliable bike.

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Originally Posted by 650TR Rider

Come to the end of the line of the most expensive motorcycle ownership experience ever!!!!
Have lost many, many thousands of UK pounds through this ownership experience, glad to be out of it..
Bit the bullet, took the huge loss and gone back to a Japanese producer, for my own sanity hopefully recapturing that pleasant motorbike ownership experience.. Just couldn't take any more of this poor ownership experience!!!
Thanks to everyone on here who has provided help and guidance during my brief ownership of the bike.
I may pop up every so often to see what's happening, but that will be more for the people rather than the bikes ;)
Cheers to all

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Hi (defacto) 650TR Rider, so did you get yourself a Kymco scoot in the end or..? Can I assume that your ex-650TR has been sold/traded to someone local in Kent, or did you trade-in?
Do you mind sharing your cost of ownership? This might be useful for any other potential CFMoto (or other PRC manufactured MC) buyer.

Lastly, sorry that your ownership experience has been anything but what you expected or had anticipated. Hope your new ride makes up for the growing pains you experienced with a sub par bike...

So what did you buy to replace it that has far less headaches?

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Originally Posted by Meiguo-007

So what did you buy to replace it that has far less headaches?

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What Dealer and how much out the door? B-Plate? Engine specifications? I am getting tired of trying to squeeze every type of China manufactures bike into my buy list and tried of the many different reviews that all start out great and the turn into long term projects for 6 months just to see them go back on the used market. Guys's, I like to ride and I do have an array of metric tools but I am past the enjoyment of getting greasy and, busted knuckles and getting stranded. I want a motorcycle for me and my lady to enjoy and ride/ Life is too short. I am not extremely wealthy but am willing to spend extra money for quality and the riding time in Beijing in surrounding communities and an occasional multi-day ride.

Are you in Beijing?

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Originally Posted by Meiguo-007

What Dealer and how much out the door? B-Plate? Engine specifications? I am getting tired of trying to squeeze every type of China manufactures bike into my buy list and tried of the many different reviews that all start out great and the turn into long term projects for 6 months just to see them go back on the used market. Guys's, I like to ride and I do have an array of metric tools but I am past the enjoyment of getting greasy and, busted knuckles and getting stranded. I want a motorcycle for me and my lady to enjoy and ride/ Life is too short. I am not extremely wealthy but am willing to spend extra money for quality and the riding time in Beijing in surrounding communities and an occasional multi-day ride.

Are you in Beijing?

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Alas, no I am in the UK so not able to help with any info re buying in China.

The Bike is a 600cc

007, you could buy a Suzuki GW250. I'm sure this bike will be reliable enough for you. I had a Sundiro Honda CBF150, it popped one fork seal in the 35,000 kilometers I had it. Unfortunately in China you cannot yet have a big bike and a Japanese level of reliability. Although if you get lucky you may get a reliable big bike, it's just reduced odds. Buck and Amy did the 'Great Ride of China' on a 650TR, I haven't read much about their likely painful box ticking trip, but their TR seemed reliable, but that could have been a 'non-disclosure' clause with CFMOTO. However if you wait for the CFMOTO/KTM JV to bear fruit a Duke 390 might be more reliable than the average Chinese machine. I'll review my CFMOTO 650NK at 10,000 kms, which will be pretty soon.

ZMC, I came very close to buying a GW250 a couple of weeks ago and may still buy a new one yet. I have been looking and reading all of the literature and posts on the 650NK and was ready to pull the trigger on this bike now that I just returned from the U.S. but realize that without hiring a good upholsterer for a custom seat configuration, my lady will struggle with more than a 30 minute ride. Dilemma: enough power, semi-passenger comfort, reliability. I also know that the TR and the GW250S has more creature comforts but just isn't appealing in other ways.

Is the CF-Moto/KTM JV the producer of the anticipated adventure bike discussed on this forum?

Well, I think I may be forced to do what every other serious rider does on this forum, buy at least 2 Chinese bikes.

Looking forward to your continued report on the NK and photos.

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Originally Posted by ZMC888

007, you could buy a Suzuki GW250. I'm sure this bike will be reliable enough for you. I had a Sundiro Honda CBF150, it popped one fork seal in the 35,000 kilometers I had it. Unfortunately in China you cannot yet have a big bike and a Japanese level of reliability. Although if you get lucky you may get a reliable big bike, it's just reduced odds. Buck and Amy did the 'Great Ride of China' on a 650TR, I haven't read much about their likely painful box ticking trip, but their TR seemed reliable, but that could have been a 'non-disclosure' clause with CFMOTO. However if you wait for the CFMOTO/KTM JV to bear fruit a Duke 390 might be more reliable than the average Chinese machine. I'll review my CFMOTO 650NK at 10,000 kms, which will be pretty soon.

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The CFM/KTM Duke 200's & 390's are available on preorder... while some early models are already out-n-about...

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Originally Posted by Meiguo-007

ZMC, I came very close to buying a GW250 a couple of weeks ago and may still buy a new one yet. I have been looking and reading all of the literature and posts on the 650NK and was ready to pull the trigger on this bike now that I just returned from the U.S. but realize that without hiring a good upholsterer for a custom seat configuration, my lady will struggle with more than a 30 minute ride. Dilemma: enough power, semi-passenger comfort, reliability. I also know that the TR and the GW250S has more creature comforts but just isn't appealing in other ways.

Is the CF-Moto/KTM JV the producer of the anticipated adventure bike discussed on this forum?

Well, I think I may be forced to do what every other serious rider does on this forum, buy at least 2 Chinese bikes.

Looking forward to your continued report on the NK and photos.

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Might be worth looking at some of the legal foreign imported M/C's as I note that price points are getting keener in a good way... Honda with the CTX700 @ ~99K, the CBR500R with ABS 70,800 CNY and CB500F ABS @ ~68,800 just to name a few makes and models...

Check out my Thailand vz PRC MSRP comparison thread (some foreign MC manufacturers based in Thailand e.g., Honda, Kawasaki etc.).

888, Bikerdoc, thanks for your input, I have continued to look at several bikes and I did finally pull the trigger and bought the GW250S today from a dealer very close to me on the westside. My wife and I have been into his shop so many times that he probably thought I was one of those proverbial "Lao Wai tire-kickers". He carries the Zongshen RX3, BN600, GW, Honda and several other unremarkable types. My needs were reliability/quality (I know, synonymous), reasonable two-up riding comfort, good selection of aftermarket parts, reasonable price and LEGAL! My first impressions riding it are, tight, a little weak for HP, and "wow the stationary fairing is freaking me out a little bit". I ride a batwing Street Glide back home that moves with my bars. I have a number of friends who ride bikes with stationary fairings so I am sure I will get use to it.

Now just like my HD, the real money starts to get spent for the add-ons but I knew that going in. Regardless, I am psych'd about getting bags for carrying some light dongxi and heading to surrounding hills/mountains.

^Congrats on the GW250 Suzuki (LianMa). Nice choice given that these models are manufactured here and are exported. Hope that means that QC/QA is better than the average. Good call on going legal too. I'm sure with just a little bit of saddle time, you'll become accustomed to the feel and aesthetics of the bike soon enough including the fairing (tupperware).

Shiny side up, rubber side down...

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