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Hi,
I'm trying to fix my Chunlan CL-125-3 (sold here as Chunlan Tiger De Luxe), 2004. I'm a bit scared about opening the engine without knowing what to expect. Does anyone have, or know about, a workshop manual? Or something similar, spare part catalogue, any kind of drawing,...?
Thanks!
Domestic version:
http://attachments.motorfans.com.cn/...Ao65yKkzWm.jpg
Export version:
http://jpg.motor.hu/72ichie-201401162123_1.jpg
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Engine: (Domestic) CB125T clone -From my rusty memory it's made by Lifan (Export) NOT sure 2 CDI/ twin carbs = CB125T clone (180 crank) | 1 CDI/ single carb = "CM" clone (360 crank)
Wiring: (Domestic) http://do.ejdz.cn:8087/%E6%91%A9%E6%...F%E5%9B%BE.gif Draws it http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2422295,00.asp OR ask if don't know the meaning
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Others: Compares to CM125C | http://www.bergamaschi.com/Download/...alogue_Low.pdf
www.huoniao-owners.co.uk [HN125-8 ...] is the place for later year alloy wheel "CM" copies. Some mods from there are suitable for ur bike.
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What's the problem in ur bike? It maybe a simple fix
If I remember, the engine of this bike has only 1 carb. So, it's a copy of the Honda CM 125. You can use the Honda Workshop manual. (Because, if you use the Chunlan workshop manual, you are not ready to sleep) .
How many kilometers is your "Tiger"?
I have the export version (from MotoScoot, as the one on the pic), a twin carb (or two in one block), so I'll try to find the CB125T manual, thanks!
It has about 15000, from which about 1500 was in 2 days, then it died on me, probably from overheating or something... The engine stopped (I can't move it a bit), the gears are stuck (I can change only between 4 and 5) and the oil level gauge is half melted. I will try to open the engine this weekend...
So, obviously, your engine seized. Il the oil gauge has melted, certainly the overheat came from a lack of oil or a crankshaft bearing. (Which was current on this bike but, curiously, this problem is supposed to come before 15,000 Km) Look like your bike was a very good one.
Well, I got the CB125 manual, opened the engine head and it's quite different from the manual - camshaft chain is between the pistons, it's a multiple chain, etc.
a bit OT: The largest problem we are having right now is, that we can't turn the engine (it's seized), so we can't disassembly the chain, and also we can't open the right crankbox cover (the one near clutch) either. We took out all the bolts, but the cover wouldn't move at all. So no way to get inside... any ideas?
P.S.: there was plenty of oil, so that's not a problem...
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dr.watson/HaynesCM125.pdf
http://www.impex-jp.com/catalogs/mot.../11kc1fj7.html
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What tool is on hand? Penetrating oil + impact wrench will frees the bolt mostly.
If can't sloves from here. U may ask it in http://www.bikechatforums.com/viewforum.php?f=33. There's a bloke http://www.bikechatforums.com/profil...rofile&u=65219 that had lots experiences about Honda twin.
Thanks a lot for the links, that's the kind of engine I have! Are they really identical (a clone)? I.e. can I buy a Honda engine and mount it to my Chunlan?
I was able to release the bolts, that's not a problem, the problem is, that even after that (with all the bolts out) the right cover doesn't go off the engine... In the first manual you've posted, page 47 (48 of pdf), where we should use a soft mallet to tap lightly around the cover to break the seal, we hammered it quite hard (hammer through a piece of wood), but without success...
Haynes = http://www.mez.co.uk/haynes.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by bios
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Cut it gently
http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/96831/...1121760229.jpg
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Heated then cools it quick
http://img.diytrade.com/smimg/147579..._Gun_/bb8b.jpg
http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/423285...Gas_Refill.jpg
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http://www.hondatwins.net/forums/40-...ase-cover.html
Agree with humanbeing, cut at the seam, heat it up (a bit), cool it off and remove it.
Lots small Honda shares similar mounting points.Quote:
Originally Posted by bios
If wants remain the good old look & lesser hassle for new exhaust mount , u need a twin OR CG that had twin ports (Huoniao HN125-8…) http://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=291183
Hi again.Quote:
Originally Posted by humanbeing
In the end, there was a lot of shredded metal coming out of the engine with the last bits of oil, so I in the end bought another engine for £80 from ebay :-) But will open the old one later just from curiosity!
Anyway, I have one question about the electric wiring. There is a lightbulb in the wiring schema, which I don't know the meaning of. In the upper right corner, there's, I guess, alternator and then tail lamp (with break wire omitted), ???, parking head light, main (dual) head light, and HI headlight indicator. What is the one between tail lamp and supposedly parking headlight? Is there a tachometer lamp? Mine never worked, but in the Honda manual they say there should be and my bike was a used one when I bought it, so it could be just broken...
Thanks!
It's a T10 type. ALL tungsten bulb f***ed by age & vibration . Just put a LED in IF there's 12v. http://www.lincolndod.co.uk/index.ph...blog?showall=1
You need these shape http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310828960385 (wider light angle) in speedo/ tacho . Find UK stock in fleabay if in hurry .
Cool, thanks a lot, I ordered them on EBay and I'll fix that as soon as my engine is running.
Meanwhile, I've put the new one in the bike (singlehandedly it was really tough!) and started connection all the stuff around. And here I'm stuck. ALthough we took loads of photos when taking it apart to know where thing were (https://imgur.com/a/QzkMj), there is one thing I didn't count with - the spark plugs. There are two wires, one higher and one lower, which one is right and which left? :-/ I know that was a stupid mistake from me, but it happened. Anybody knows? :)
Which is which? Compares pics from http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-motorcycles_model2/
CDI related:
CB125T: http://www.sanxin.com.cn/Exhibit/exhview.asp?pid=10
CM125: http://www.sanxin.com.cn/Exhibit/exhview.asp?pid=11
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Manifold rubber seems cracked. EXTRA air (lean) + all day long riding (TOO hot) may killed it .
What I mean is, that e.g. here http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-cb125t-ge...slist/F23.html the two coils are on the right and left, so it's obvious which one is which. However on my bike they are one higher and one lower, not next to each other. So I don't know how to connect the spark plugs, so I guess I'll just try it and if it doesn't run, I'll swap them :)
Thanks for pointing out the cracked rubber, I thought the cracks weren't through :-/ I'll fix that too...
http://www.impex-jp.com/catalogs/mot.../11kc1fj7.html F27
What's R / L -refer to F25
Test will tells the turth. http://cyrilhuzeblog.com/2014/04/01/...r-by-ss-cycle/Quote:
Originally Posted by bios