Hi all,
I'm Jean-Philippe, French, 46yo, living in Beijing, holder of a chinese driving license and trying desperately to ride legally a descent bike. I hope I'll find some answers to my questions here.
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Hi all,
I'm Jean-Philippe, French, 46yo, living in Beijing, holder of a chinese driving license and trying desperately to ride legally a descent bike. I hope I'll find some answers to my questions here.
legal in Beijing is expensive..... I am not sure the current price for a Jing A.. but two days ago.. I heard of one going for 70K rmb.....license is another .... a motorcycle license is required...outside the ring roads may prove to be less expensive.....if you live there....
I have the C1D driving license. I live between the 3rd and the 4th ring road, 500 meters from the 4th ring road.... I heard that serious dealers can provide a legaly B-plate with all registrations documents including insurance if you buy a brand new bike in their store. But I suppose that in fact you're not the owner of the bike and I wonder how do you do when you sell the bike...
I also have the C1D.... and live outside the 5th ring road.....I did buy a new bike but bought a Jing A.. have no idea as to the B plate and someone else name...good luck.. myself and several here can give you dealers they have done "biz wit"
your help will be appreciated, thank you. I suppose you know DATONE Motorcycles Workshop, what do you think of them?
Bonjour Jean-Philippe
Clay is correct, 京A plates are running around 70K right now and, if history repeats itself, that price will increase substantially during the coming Fall/Winter months.
If you opt for a 京B plate, the price drops down to about 1K to 2K, depending on who arranges it for you.
DATONE is owned by the largest motorcycle dealer chain in Beijing - Dadihengtang (Dadi). Dadi has 8 outlets, originating with its two shops just North of the 5th Ring Road (Wangfujing area). The original outlets are not as fancy as the DATONE outlet and, interestingly, are a few hundred rmb cheaper on most bikes/services (including plates). I have bought several bikes from Dadi and my experiences have always been good.
The last new bike (GW250) I bought from Dadi (about a year ago) was 京B plated by Dadi (registration in its company name). Dadi provided additional documents clarifying that I was the owner/operator of the motorcycle. When I sold the bike, the buyer and I went back to Dadi and it issued new "owner" documents for the buyer. The reason one does this is because of the issue of traffic camera tickets/fines. Dadi wants to ensure that it is not responsible. Likewise, when I sold the bike, I wanted to ensure that any camera tickets were not assigned to me, but instead to the new buyer.
I have been hearing/reading stories about the Traffic Management Bureau cracking down on 京B plates inside the 4th Ring Road, and have also heard/read stories about insurance companies (e.g., PICC) refusing to insure the owner/operator of company-registered 京B bikes.
Dadi (DATONE) can explain everything in more detail for you. Dadi is not going to risk its quite good reputation by screwing people.
Good luck!
By the way, having the proper driving license is wise - there are an increasing number of horror stories (i.e., detention) of riders without C1E or C1D licenses being posted on Chinese motorcycle forums.
Thank you very much.
I went to Datone workshop and it seems that B-plates are around 5K for the new Benelli BJ600GS-A. Maybe it includes other things but I did not undestand exactly what the guy said. I only saw employees, does the manager speak english?
The 5K probably includes the sales tax. A shop often provides an all-in quote (there are several fees). In my experience, the trick is to get an out-the-door cash price, and compare it with other shops. Each shop has a different fee schedule for the many little things.
I have heard that someone at Datone speaks English, but I have never been lucky enough to meet him (her?).
Hi Jean-Philippe,
Welcome! I'm new to the forum, too.
I'm also living in Beijing and working on getting a legal motorcycle. I'll let you know when I start motorcycle shopping, maybe we can help each other through the process or at least scout the best deals. I am hoping I don't have to spend 5K on a jing B plate.
-Galen
Hi Galen,
I just bought a black Suzuki GW250F at datone shop. I paid 25880Ұ for the bike + 3420Ұ including B-plate, taxes and 1 year insurance. Smooth transaction although nobody speaks english (thanks to my phone translate app!). I don't have yet the plate, I'll have it in a few days. I also bought a complete top case + luggages + rack system, but I have to wait for the plate to get it and mount it on the bike. Very strange....
I think I'll write a road test here soon...
Glad you had a smooth transaction. Post up some pictures when you get your bike home and on the road. I'm looking forward to the write-up as well :)
Though I really want a Japanese branded motorcycle, my budget isn't quite high enough. Apparently the Jialing JH150 is a solid Chinese brand motorcycle that I'm hoping to get with a Jing B plate for under 10,000 rmb.
The reason for this is that during the plating process, the authorities take an official picture of the bike. The bike must be completely naked (i.e., no add-on, non-original accessories) when this picture is taken. Once plated, owners then add the farkles. In 2 years, when the first inspection is required, you will need to remove all of the goodies to get the bike to its original, naked condition so that it matches the original picture. It is one of the many unusual China-rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by JP-BEIJING
Looking forward to hearing your impressions of the new "F" version of the GW250.
Several MCM guys have these and like them. Filip circumnavigated China (>25,000 km) on his JH150, before I bought it off him, and then a year later I resold it to chef-Jeff. It is still kicking, as far as I know. I think they have a few of the typical Chinese issues, but they are very easy to repair, and every hamlet's Zhoa-the-mechanic can get you going. A couple of years ago, a B-plated JH150 was around 7500 rmb, new, out the door. Prices have likely increased, but perhaps only a little. Every now and then, I see them on 58.com, with almost no mileage, for around 5K rmb.Quote:
Originally Posted by galenernest
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The reason for this is that during the plating process, the authorities take an official picture of the bike. The bike must be completely naked (i.e., no add-on, non-original accessories) when this picture is taken. Once plated, owners then add the farkles. In 2 years, when the first inspection is required, you will need to remove all of the goodies to get the bike to its original, naked condition so that it matches the original picture. It is one of the many unusual China-rules.
After reading this post I just checked my Blue book and found that my "Official Picture" has been taken with Farkles on i.e. after market top box, it is fair to say the laws are so inconsistent here in China and what happens in one province does not always happen in other provinces .
Good news for me, no have to take of the top box in 2 years time . I do believe new bikes come with a generic picture sent with the fapiao .
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