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The MC's in the first link looks to be either Honda ST1300's or BMW R1200RT or similar. The headlights do not seem to fit the profile of the CFMoto 650TR. The screen design also seems different to the aforementioned TR as well. The photo on page 4 in the link where the bikes are in a V formation and also again on page 7, these look to be BMW's... and the photos on the next page, page 5, are definitely BMW, but R series. Difficult to determine if the photos of the bikes on page 1 are definitely the same as the BMW bikes in page 4 & 7.
The lower pic in your post LJH, seem to be similar to Honda CB750F (fours). In NZ back in the day traffic officers which were under the Ministry of Transport (separate to the Police back then), used CB750F for a few years. These bikes profiles in the photo have a similar appearance. But really need some more photos... to make a better guess.
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Are you sure the older ones aren't these? :lol8::scooter:
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@bikerdoc
I agree - they seem to be BMWs or Honda STs. I once saw some white Honda ST-like bikes being ridden by the police around Tiananmen Square, on regular duty. The bikes had very little badging, except for "Honda" and "800" (presumably the displacement).
The 1982 pic seems to show jugs that hang out on the side (BMW or CJ style), with the exhaust header coming out from the jug. But the forks & headlight appear somewhat Japanese (although probably unlikely in 1982 China).
@Culcune
Interesting trivia tidbit ... prior to the series starting production, Ponch (Erik Estrada) had zero experience with motorcycles. Further, Estrada never had a motorcycle endorsement on his driving license for the entire six year production run of that series. After the series ended, Estrada needed 3 attempts to finally get his endorsement.
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@bikerdoc
I agree - they seem to be BMWs or Honda STs. I once saw some white Honda ST-like bikes being ridden by the police around Tiananmen Square, on regular duty. The bikes had very little badging, except for "Honda" and "800" (presumably the displacement).
The 1982 pic seems to show jugs that hang out on the side (BMW or CJ style), with the exhaust header coming out from the jug. But the forks & headlight appear somewhat Japanese (although probably unlikely in 1982 China).
@Culcune
Interesting trivia tidbit ... prior to the series starting production, Ponch (Erik Estrada) had zero experience with motorcycles. Further, Estrada never had a motorcycle endorsement on his driving license for the entire six year production run of that series. After the series ended, Estrada needed 3 attempts to finally get his endorsement.
I absolutely loved that show (when I was a child, and as a child I wasn't always allowed to watch it depending on what time it was on during the evening). CHIPS inspired me to apply to become a traffic officer back in the day just so I could ride bikes for a career. I was too young though at the time being only 17, with entry age being restricted to 18yo+. About a year later I applied and started a job as a contract motorcycle courier instead - which I did for ~6-7 years (seems like a former life today though).
Wonder if it's possible to download all of the CHIPS series? I know the answer to that one already... a simple online search
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I remember when Eric Estrada (or the other guy??) had an accident filming one of the episodes which ended these two actually riding bikes (they used stunt doubles and a trailer when they filmed close ups). One of the episodes beginning scenes was filmed near my (parents') house in Northridge, California back in '79 or '80 when I was 9 or ten (the one, if you remember, when the mayor's limousine was stolen, and Jon and Ponch happened to see it abandoned next to the road--that episode :)).
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culcune
... they used stunt doubles and a trailer when they filmed close ups ...
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...DG/Chips-1.jpg
Hollywood. :rolleyes1:
I wouldn't want to be that camera man.
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Wasn't one of our members a BMW rep in China?
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Hmmm ... although I kinda think they are BMWs, the mystery deepens. There seems to be some "evidence" that there might be a new CF Moto police bike that looks a lot like a BMW. Here is something being uncrated at a CF Moto dealer in Beijing:
http://attachments.motorfans.com.cn/...hkULWv6164.jpg
Found in this motorfans link.
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Couldn't find anything on the CFMoto Chinese website (cfmoto.cn), but someone should let CFMoto know that it needs a native English language editor ...
http://i60.tinypic.com/14d36hg.jpg
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Need to look at the Chinese side of the web site ??
http://cfmoto.com/product/650G.aspx
CF650G
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Comes with ABS and Innovative patent "stepless adjustable electric windshield" can be any position adjustment of 100mm and has a position memory function, providing a more comfortable driving experience for the driver.
The new 2015 CF 650 NK comes with ABS as well
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Good find, thanks!
Someone mentioned to me that the price is 200K rmb, although I haven't yet confirmed that. I doubt members of the public would be able to buy one, even if so inclined.
It was reasonably expected that a Chinese motorcycle manufacturer would raise its game with the production of a more "presentable" police escort bike. In the past, seeing police motorcycle escorts of visiting Presidents, Prime Ministers, etc, where the police were riding Suzuki GN125s and 250s looked a little silly.
I recall that on the car-side, there was quite a bit of criticism 10 years ago that Chinese "leaders" had been using foreign Mercedes as official cars. HongQi (Red Flag) stepped up its game a few years ago with the new "official" car, which is now commonly seen in Beijing. For the very top leaders, however, it seems that the classic-style HongQi limos are deployed.
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I attended KTMR2R Ningbo official opening ceremony/celebrations Sunday 26th Oct. The event was well attended with a range of bikes and riders of all types there. Little hot for many as we sat on seats set in a direct line of sight of the sun in all its glory.
One of the CFMoto aficionados was there (who I met with Buck and Amy of the Great Ride of China), to complete the handover of some official document as well as the ribbon cutting ceremony. Due to my oversight (having left my good camera at home on the water cooler where I placed it before heading to the garage to move bikes round etc), meaning I departed home without said camera. That little oversight and the fact that it was hot, meant I took few photos of the events or all the bikes lined up.
Unfortunately the CFMoto aficionado did not stay long enough after the official events had completed, nor did he attend the special lunch held at a nice restaurant thereafter, therefore I was unable to quiz him on the CF650G nor the supposed 650MT. There was a display poster of the 650G but nothing of the 650MT.
From what I can tell, the 650G has:
- Wheelbase: 1415mm
- Seat height: 780-810mm (containing adjustable cushion/airbag)
- Minimum ground clearance: 140mm
- Curb weight: 265kg (allow maybe 20-30kg for the police gizmo's)
- In-line 2 cylinder 52kW@8750rpm 4 stroke liquid cooled
- 4 valves/cylinder
- Bore x Stroke 83.0 X 60.0mm
- Compression ratio 11.3:1
- Displacement: 650cc
- 6-speed manual transmission
- Steering head angle 32°
- Wet multi-plate clutch
- BOSCH EFI
- LED lighting (headlight/tailight)
- LED indicators (turn signals) redesigned from the 650TR/TK
- Redesigned front headlight (including a pair of projector lenses)
- Electric adjustable screen (range over 100mm) with position memory
- ABS (though the brake calipers are still the JiJuan brand as found on the 650NK/TR/TK)
- Ø43mm inverted shock absorbers with adjustable preload and dampening
- Air inflatable adjustable seat (range of 30mm) with what looks to be a more upright (comfortable) riders position.
- Instrument panel, has separate dial tachometer and speedometer, with LCD odometer, trip meter and clock, but no gear indicator
- Integrated luggage
- Front tyre 120/70 ZR17
- Rear tyre 180/55 ZR17
http://cfmoto.com/NewsCenter/Detail.aspx?id=231
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Hi Doc
Thanks for the great in fore on the CF650G, nice to see ABS on the bike, shame about not taking your camera and not having more opportunity to question the CF official on the MT .
265Kg ? not sure if that is a good selling point but so happy things are moving forwards with CF, with the good job been done on the 650G lets just keep our fingers crossed that the "MT" will come out as good, well only a few weeks to wait to find out.
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Tx for the info bikerdoc!
Yup, China's official English newspaper from government confirms it is the new CFMoto 650G ...
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/889135.shtml
Interesting read, especially the "Escort Requirements" (I assume these are the necessary basic rider skills):
1) change drivers while driving (WTF?!?!?!)
2) do a wheelie across a plank bridge (really? seriously?)
3) cross cut-off bridge (I've no idea what that is)
4) 360 degree U-turn (uh, isn't a U-turn 180 degrees?)
5) catch wrestling and grappling (huh?)
I'd really like to see an escort switch riders from bike to bike, while doing wheelies! I suspect there might be some wrestling & grappling involved in the maneuvers. Still, in my opinion, no country can hold a candle to the police riders in India, during one of their exhibitions.
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cross cut off bridge means crossing damaged bridges by jumping over to reach the other side.... this guys are stunt riders..... evil knievil will be happy to join this bunch.
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Sorry I see the motorbikes that coming to Eicma , we know that CFMOTO 400 NK ( KTM replica) coming and new CFMOTO 650 G but we dont hear any about CFMOTO 650 MT , any can to give me more information about CFMOTO 650 MT ?
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Sorry I see the motorbikes that coming to Eicma , we know that CFMOTO 400 NK ( KTM replica) coming and new CFMOTO 650 G but we dont hear any about CFMOTO 650 MT , any can to give me more information about CFMOTO 650 MT ?
Should be out at the end of 2016 with it being in the shops early 2017 !!
But for that to happen you need to win the Lotto 4 times in a row !!
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I hope Skyteam does not see this news :lol8:
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I hope Skyteam does not see this news :lol8:
Please don't say that it's nice and quiet at the mormentt and lets keep it that way !:thumbsup: