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Hi,
I want to buy a bike in china and drive it in china for some time then leave china into Mongolia. I have read some posts about buying a Chinese bike as a foreigner (driving with insurance, plates , and intentional licensee ) and i am aware that it is not 100% legal.
My big question, will I be able to leave china with the bike and enter Mongolia?
which documents will I need?
Any other information will be of much help!
Thanks alot:thumbsup:
Baror,
More than a couple people on here have bought a bike in China an exited to another country. Foreigners regularly ride between China and MOngolia so ti must be possible. As a matter of fact, I think there is a post on here of someone trying to organize that exact same trip but not riding around "in" China. We'd need more details about your plans.
Leaving one country is entering another and you'll have to pass through both. Perhaps the most simple is to buy a second hand motorcycle which already has plates and registration and ride it around and out. There is lots of discussion in MyChinaMoto (check the Regionals-Asia section) about this so read around if you haven't already.
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My plans are buying a Chinese bike and driving it in china,Mongolia , Russia...all the way to turkey (Cost to Cost trip, from the Chinese sea to the Mediterranean sea) .I Don't know where in china I'm going to buy the bike, Any recommendation - I'm flexible as I'm at the first stages of planing.
I'm thinking of buying 200-250CC bike , Any recommendation?
At the moment my biggest question is how can i leave china and enter other countries with the bike? what kind of documents will I need?
I looked around and the only thing relevant I found was the post of tokyokid trip to Berlin (from china) on 125 cc bike. But it seems that he has Chinese citizenship so it not too helpful for me.
If you are a resident in China, then owning a legal bike should not be too much trouble. And I assume you'll be entering Mongolia at Erlenhot? Again not much toruble. Entering Russia you'll need to make sure all your registration docs are OK and you'll have to buy Russian Insurance at the border but that border is also pretty easy. I rode from Europe to Beijing going though Russia and the length of Mongolia finally entering China at Erlenhot (after an unsuccessful attempt at QiShi (SP)). E-Mail me if you need any advice or directions.
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...=Trans-Eurasia
Regds,
Jim
www.bmwsidecar.com
I'm not a Chinese resident. As crazycral suggested I want to buy a second hand
bike with plates and registration. The problem is that I don't know if i can exit china with this bike . Do you know?
What documents did you use in order to leave\enter china ?
Thanks:thumbsup:
1. There was a guy last year who rode around China on a small bike but failed to make it into Mongolia.Quote:
Originally Posted by baror
2. Tokyokid made it across the border into Kazakhstan 2008, apparently because the bike owner was with him.
3. Franki just returned from Laos on his bike.
4. Two Swiss will leave to Kyrgyzstan in May on their Chinese registered bikes.
5. A German guy will leave to Vlad late June on his
From what I know, it seems you must be the owner of the bike or have a written approval from the owner to leave China and some sort of export permission.
What is your time schedule ? If you are not in rush, we'll know more when the Swiss are on their way.
Btw, Erenhot is the only land border between China and Mongolia open to third country citizens.
I left China through Boten into Laos. I didn't own the bike legally, but I made it out alright. They gave me some resistance but I just kept politely insisting I wanted to leave. They finally said I couldn't bring the bike back into China and let me do it. I don't know about Mongolia, but it might be the same. Also, I think someone did it by putting the bike on a train or something.
Chris
I have some more detailed info on when I left china on my website, www.chrison2wheels.com
do you know why he failed to enter mongolia ?
Any way I not in a rush, but any other information will help me alot
Thanks
Thanks Kurisu.
did you buy the bike in china ?
where in china?
He failed to obtain the export permission.Quote:
Originally Posted by baror
HI,
iv'e just wanted to know if now somebody knows if
you can exit china on a bike purchase in china
Thanks alot
You can, that's for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by baror
They did it on legal bikes to Kyrg. http://www.gglobal.org/gg/home/home.php
Franki and others went into Laos and back.
tokiokid left to Kaz.
Hi again,
maybe you could help me more, at the moment i'm at
a bike trip in india so i don't have enough time to read this link.
do you know if i can leave china on a bike even if i buy a chinse bike
as a tourist?
do you know what papers do i need to leave china into mongolia?
Thanks Alot
As I wrote earlier in this post and elsewhere, I left China on a motorcycle I bought as a tourist. They weren't exactly happy about it, but they let me out. The trick was to just be really pushy and persistent. They said I couldn't bring the bike back to China (but that might have just been conjecture.)
You don't need any kind of 'customs' BS if they try to push that on you. You just have to get a permit to ride out of the border ($1). I put more of this stuff on my blog.
I exited into Laos, Mongolia might be a different story.
www.chrison2wheels.com
Chris
It seems to be a different story. Most of the no-go reports tell about the Mongolia - China border, while most of the success stories come from the Lao border.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurisu
baror,Quote:
Originally Posted by baror
tell us more about your schedule and itinerary.
Theoretically you need to prove ownership or have a statement of the owner, allowing you to use and export his bike. But as always in China, rules are not written very clearly and interpreted differently depending on place, time, the mood of the officials or the water level of the Yangtze :lol8:
For yourself, we can get you a temp. dl in Beijing as long as you are not colorblind.
Man, I have the distinct pleasure of having done China on both the Chinese style street 125 (A Yamaha Knock-off) AND a dirt-bike style Zhong Shen 150cc. I met Tokyo Kid on the road in Yunnan - he was going north, I was going south.
I gotta say, the dirt bike was the BEST thing I did on that trip. Those thin-tired Chinese bikes just aren't cut out of the roads between cities. Those roads are truly brutal and you want all the cushy suspension you can get. But 150cc did do the job - I got all the way to Bangkok and put some 12,000 HARD kilometers on the thing - including a good wreck. The motor was pretty tired by the time I sold it though...
Don't worry too much about the parts. If the engine and drive assy are in good shape then everything else can either be swapped out of made for you by shops along the way. In SE asia, I had a wreck and an old man just MADE the extra parts I needed. Worked fine. Other things like mirrors, lights etc. are usually standard and can either be swapped with generics or fitted to your bike with a little "creative engineering."
IMPORTANT: Be sure to get some kind of registration letter, handwritten by the bloke you buy the bike from. That helped me a lot. I made copies with his registration card and other official looking stuff too. That got me out of scrapes with the cops every time.
I wrote about all of this in my book. I can't wait to hear how your journey goes! If you want some more tips on other stuff, check my blog.
www.chrison2wheels.com
This is the bike I did mine on:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/...36e4dc2e00.jpg
Hi all. Does anyone have any info about leaving China to Vietnam and back? I'm thinking of have a go at that ride sometime soon.
Cheers
Entering Vietnam on a non-Vietnamese bike is the same as entering China on a non-Chinese bike, If not even more difficult as I read from the HUBB.Quote:
Originally Posted by MGAlbion
Leaving China on a China registered bike is possible as you know from this
thread and I think it would be possible to enter VN with a rego from there.
Question is if they let you leave China with a Vietnamese plate. I think it is possible if you have enough time and if it is not a big bike.
What registration does the bike have? What bike is it?
Thanks Chinabiker,
It sounds like to its going to be a bit too much of a mission for what i had in mind.
The bikes registered in Hubei. Its a Zongshan 200 (sierra), and fair play ive read some bad things about it, but its done me fine in the 3 months and 6000km since ive had it.
Maybe Laos is a good plan B
Hey Guys...FYI I moved GingerAdam's posts to it's own thread in the Ride Reports section.
Link is here:
http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1469
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