Qingqi QM200GY (Qlink, STX, Pulse, etc) alternative air filter

Having proved to myself that altering the air box, or removing it altogether and replacing it with a pod-type K&N style filter is most unwise on engines fitted with CV (constant vacuum) carburettors, (read discussion about this issue here, starting at post number 5):

http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=449

I set about finding an improved filter element to insert inside the factory air box.

The OEM filter is a re-usable yellow lump of foam that has very poor sealing properties around its edges, tears easily and may be robbing some airflow capacity.
Its part number is 13781QMNZ000 and it costs about $26.

The airbox is the same shape inside as the Suzuki DR200 1999-2007 and therefore the Suzuki filter element will fit. I ordered one thinking it might be an improvement and guess what?.

The Genuine Suzuki OEM air filter is a re-usable yellow lump of foam...etc, etc. In fact it's exactly the same component. I have seen them both side by side.

Its part number if you ever need one and can't find the Qingqi one is:
13780-42A-01 and the cost?...yes, exactly the same $26.

I've read good things about MOOSE RACING, they have after-market filter elements for a large variety of standard air boxes, including one for the Suzuki DR200 1999-2007. The consensus is that apart from superior filtration with less resistance to airflow and a vastly improved neoprene seal around its edges, it's much stronger and might release a bit of power or at least improve driveability and throttle response.

Its part number is: M762-70-03, costs only around $21 and it's available from lots of places. You can Google the part number or the description as follows: "Moose DR200 99-07" or get it from these places:

http://www.oemcycle.com/Item/product...ki_DR200_99-07

http://www.procycledepot.com/content...S?item=1831702

http://www.procycledepot.com/uimages...S/M7612043.jpg

* Bonded, two-layer foam designed for maximum protection and airflow
* Filter designed for maximum surface area
* Super Seal neoprene sealing ring provides a no-grease seal
* Super Seal material seals off 100% water and remains air tight without grease
* Exclusive 0.65 foam
* Made in the U.S.A.

I've got one on order from the USA and will report back when I fit it.

Thanks for posting the info forchetto! I have been thinking of either ordering the Moose filter or Uni Filter also makes one for the DR200.

http://www.oemcycle.com/Item/product...19/DR200_01-07

That's the same place I ordered my Moose filter from. Never looked at the UNI filters, but I notice they list them as suitable for DR200 01-07 whereas the Moose is deemed suitable for DR200 years 99-07. Strange.

Forchetto,
Did you get the filter yet?

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Originally Posted by david3921

Forchetto,
Did you get the filter yet?

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Yes. Sorry I haven't reported so far. It fits straight on the same as the original but seems stronger structurally and has a superior neoprene seal around the carb joint. Can't really appreciate if it runs better or not. The centre screw/wing nut fixing of the original is still a bastard to get back on though. This is due to the Chinese having a narrow access door on the left side of the airbox, rather than the large opening on the top under the seat that was originally designed for use on the DR200 by Suzuki. They kept the method of fixing the filter element the same and it's not easy. I will probably now go to Hell after the blasphemous utterances that came forth while re-fitting it.

Hi
I'm trying ti get a Moose Air Filter too.
I'm searching on the eBay and I found it, but I don't know if it's cheaper than the 2 stores that you stated above.
Another question, with the moose filter use still use a filter oil to spray it?
Thank you

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Originally Posted by forchetto

This is due to the Chinese having a narrow access door on the left side of the airbox, rather than the large opening on the top under the seat that was originally designed for use on the DR200 by Suzuki. They kept the method of fixing the filter element the same and it's not easy.

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Hi Forchetto, You said before that Suzuki filter is the same so the same must be the airbox. How about change all the airbox for that of suzuki and stop swearing with that stupid wingnut of hell. Think this could be a posible interchange?

BTW this litle bike made a long trip this new year and crossing all guatemala and half honduras. No pics, no RR, just want to comment that seems to be a reliable bike so far.

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Originally Posted by superfamous

Another question, with the moose filter use still use a filter oil to spray it?
Thank you

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The original filter that came with the bike had been fitted dry. The Suzuki spare I bought later came ready oiled, you can tell because it comes sealed in a plastic bag and some of the oil has dripped inside. The Moose replacement filter also came dry and with some vague instructions about oiling it but no definitive instructions as to what sort of oil is required, just "filter oil". Try and get "filter oil" here in Spain and the shops look at you as if you were mad...It's now fitted dry.

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Originally Posted by andres357mag

Hi Forchetto, You said before that Suzuki filter is the same so the same must be the airbox. How about change all the airbox for that of suzuki and stop swearing with that stupid wingnut of hell. Think this could be a posible interchange?

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It could be done. I did search ebay for a used example as the original is hard to get and expensive, but in the end I just settled for looking around to find a low pressure-large diameter spring that I can place behind the element to hold it in contact with the sealing face of the air filter housing. My old Honda CB550 had such a spring to hold the paper filter element and it worked great. It took seconds to remove and replace the element.

I don't understand why Qingqi changed the airbox. The frame is exactly the same with plenty of clearance between the underseat tubes to access the filter.

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Originally Posted by andres357mag

Hi Forchetto, You said before that Suzuki filter is the same so the same must be the airbox. How about change all the airbox for that of suzuki and stop swearing with that stupid wingnut of hell. Think this could be a posible interchange?

BTW this litle bike made a long trip this new year and crossing all guatemala and half honduras. No pics, no RR, just want to comment that seems to be a reliable bike so far.

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Hi
In the Brazilian Manual, it says that the air filter must be wetted with engine oil but not soggy. It says that you can use engine oil, but I know that some stores sells oil specific for air filters.
As far as I know, the oil in the air filter helps to retain dust particles and not let them go to the carburetor...
cheers

Hi
Can anyone tell me if the airbox of the QM200GY is the same that QM125GY ??
I'm asking this because I bought a Mosse air filter like forchetto did, and it don't fit perfectly, the filter as the correct part number, but when I compare it to the original one(yellow), the form of the moose seems to be slightly different...
Thank you
mario

I also hate that airfilter box, I cleaned my Quinqi filter and sprayed it with Shell Advance filter Oil, ( off ebay, the cheapest I could find), and boy was it sticky when the solvent evaporated. The whole job of shoving that thing back into the filter box and with two fingers on the same hand trying to screw in the wing screw was a complete night and day mare. The reason, it was sticky and stuck itself to anywhere it touched. To see if it was installed correctly, I tried to lift the bottom edge of the filter to make sure the far unseen side was not folded, but was over the inlet opening, I managed, but it was hard going for the sticky air filter had adhered to the face of the air box leading to the carb. That is when it struck me, why the need for an airfilter with improved bottom edge seal, when a filter with filter oil on it does the job admirably, because believe me filter oil is very sticky but non hardening, it sticks to anything it comes into contact with, including the bottom face of the filter box, I have no worries about unfiltered air getting in, that is for sure.

But be warned, a difficult job becomes nastier with filter oil.

Don't use engine oil, you should try to get proper air filter oil.

Cheers!
ChinaV

Sproket did say in his post that the oil he used was filter oil, V. I didn't know that it was sticky, though. I thought it was just, well you know, oily.

This stuff ;

http://www.epc.shell.com/Docs/GPCDOC...nce_Filter.pdf

Hi again
for the last days I have tried to know whicht exact suzuki bike model uses the same filter that pulse adrenaline 125 ( XF125GY). I thought that was the Suzuki DR200SE (like forchetto says), but I ordered a Moose Filter and the filter is slightly different from the original yellow one and the number part is correct. Maybe the filter for the XF200GY is different that for the XF125GY, I really don't know...
Does anyone know which bike uses the same filter as pulse adrenaline 125 ? Do you know if the suzuki drz-125 is the correct model?
Thank you
Mario

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Originally Posted by superfamous

Hi again
for the last days I have tried to know whicht exact suzuki bike model uses the same filter that pulse adrenaline 125 ( XF125GY). I thought that was the Suzuki DR200SE (like forchetto says), but I ordered a Moose Filter and the filter is slightly different from the original yellow one and the number part is correct. Maybe the filter for the XF200GY is different that for the XF125GY, I really don't know...
Does anyone know which bike uses the same filter as pulse adrenaline 125 ? Do you know if the suzuki drz-125 is the correct model?
Thank you
Mario

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These fits?
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=4273881821 http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=160007586

hey Mario,
Have you found the correct air filter for the 125cc??? I have a kreidler 125 supermoto dd, and I've tried to get some air filter, but the one from moose racing won't fit because the hole is centered and on my airfilter box the hole is a little bit higher. Have you tried the moose racing for suzuki drz-125?does it fit?
many thanks
Paulo

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Originally Posted by Overdose no WC

hey Mario,
Have you found the correct air filter for the 125cc??? I have a kreidler 125 supermoto dd, and I've tried to get some air filter, but the one from moose racing won't fit because the hole is centered and on my airfilter box the hole is a little bit higher. Have you tried the moose racing for suzuki drz-125?does it fit?
many thanks
Paulo

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Hi Paulo
Are you from Portugal? I'm asking just because your name seems to be portuguese.

I already had the same problem that you have right now. I also ordered a moose air filter for DR200 and the hole isn't in the same position as the original yellow foam filter. So I just adapted the moose filter by making a new hole in the right position and cover the other hole. It was a solution that I found, but I really want to find the right air filter model.
Thank you
Mario

hey there Mario..
Yes i'm Portuguese, the reason I write in English is for everyone to understand...
In relation to the filter I've bought a twin air filter for yamaha blaster 200...
it's not the same shape but with a little bit of patience I've inserted it kind'a "perfect"...

What improvements did you notice?with the new air filter!

Hello Forchetto! Long time no see!! What happened to Gareth at Xianracer? And TCBF? I lost internet for some time and moved house ect: so was away for ages! How are you?