This is the Motorhead Tekken from Fuego Power, and me (David McMullan) modeling the fuel tank on it.
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This is the Motorhead Tekken from Fuego Power, and me (David McMullan) modeling the fuel tank on it.
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Oh my, this is your work!?
I saw this... "Tekken" (I hope that you weren't his godfather) last winter on "Alibaba" and my first comment was "Finally, something fresh and recognisable".
Although "laicus" in domain od design, I would made beefier fairing, headlight and beak, but nevertheless, this is really nice job.
How people from "Fuego" position this bike? Is this some sort of a two-wheeled SUV, so to speak?
Don't be shy to tell us all about this and the rest of your projects.
Nice bike Dave is the bike being sold in China and do you have a link .......
Glad to see you are working hard lol last time we meet you mine was just on beers that don't make you a bad man just a true English man.
steve
It's a dual sport and it's been tested quite thoroughly up in Tibet, there's a YouTube video or 2 of it going through the paces.
quite a nice bike. Can this be bought and registered in China?
Actually my wife is meeting with a consultant today to try to get it on to the Chinese market, looking for dealerships to collaborate with.
I think that is a great looking bike , comfy and sturdy.
What do you think about using a more modern watercooled engine with a four valve head. I love that old two valve but it has its limits.
Btw while you are carving that tank , think about a tankbag sitting on there.
Hello Zhu, I'll give your suggestion to the engine dept, I know a lot of people that would love a water cooled engine in that model, we'll have to see in the future!
Dave, do people from "Fuego" are planning some classic or retro motorcycle?
As it already has the radiator shrouds and the zs engine shares common mounts , exhaust exit angle and carb mounts, the future could easily be next week eh. Just my opinion but I have never seen the need for a single cylinder engine to have two mufflers.
One is just as quiet and at least half as heavy, even less if its made of carbon which is a bit dearer but a good place to spend money as "weight on the ends" is just as bad on bikes as it is on yachts.
The twin muffler thing started because the factory bikes used carbon cans and titanium fittings as you would if a huge factory was paying the bill and expecting the best bike possible.
Then of course the latest and greatest has to be transferred to the customer bikes. On really high speed bikes it's a drag reduction sure, but on bikes with 20-30 hp weight is the over riding factor.
Looking at this bike I see a lot of potential as a touring bike in asia and I think the rental guys will snap it up. It always seemed the cooler looking bikes went out first in Laos and Thailand. The backpackers are a bunch of cheap bastards but they want those cool selfie stick pics on facebook.
Sorry to ramble on a bit, sitting at home with no telly.
By all means - continue rambling.Quote:
Originally Posted by zhu
But, how do you know about the mounts?
Based on how many models come with either or engines, its likely they all share the same mounting points. From a 125cc to the DOHC 250, it so likely they all use the same mounts.
That definitely works on horizontals, maybe this works with "plain vanilla" (non-balanced) CB and CG clones, but only "humanbeing" would know for sure...
Yes humanbeing can probably tell us the distances fro one mount to another, the thread form and plating of the bolts and the name of the old woman who cut the threads.
Swapping the old air cooled two valver for the more modern zs four valve is a standard mod for the Chinese guys . With a bit of engraving you have a legal bike with a good bit more power. Using the word legal as the locals do.
Perhaps venerable is a better word than old.
http://www.adventureriderradio.com/a...wheels-jo-rust
Woody of woodys wheels is acknowledged as the wheel guru. One weakness of Chinese bikes that has always plagued me is the drive line in general and especially spokes.
If I saw his name on a wheel I would feel very confident those wheels wouldn't leave me geographically embarrassed in West Bumfluck Nowhere. There is a fair bit of science and trig in spokes and Woody builds the wheels that get through the Dakar.
Again just my opinion having ridden Locally built 250's for 80k around China and Asia. Plenty of other guys have done more than that. I would bet a shiny one kuai piece none of them have good things to say about spokes ,wheels,chains,sprokets or the non existence of the rubber band thing that is supposed to be between the tube and the spokes.
Hello Zorge, no retro stuff at this time but my mates at Super Motor Company have made a retro cafe racer
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Haha, cafe racer? In that case that is an abomination :lol8:Quote:
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Seriously, very cool looking toy, I like it a lot.
Zorge, no retro as yet but a mate of mine at Super Motor Company has produced a decent retro cafe racer that I'll get some photos of for you all.
Zhu, yes I sports a Zongshen engine, all the Motorhead bikes use the Zongshen lumps (it's about time Zuo Zongshen took me for dinner!)
No telly! Arrrrrrgggg!
Here's the Super Motor Cafe Racer
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Sorry about repeating the picture, I didn't think the last one worked.
Dave, you definitely need some R&R. :icon10:
I really like the Super Motor Lucky Punk, its missing winkers and a tail light though. The article about it on BIKEXIF has it in a form that would not likely get it approved for on the road use, it has no emission devices. Sponge filter and a near straight pipe exhaust. They call the frame a “Dragon Frame” I think it is the frame used on the Honda XL230. Here is my opinion of that, getting that frame mass produced through a facility that uses robotics would be best. Then launch a bunch of versions of it. But not just the frames the engines should be a six speed version and also with EFI.
The issue with the Chinese motorcycle industry are many, one is that they grey the line between retail and wholesale, the retail price target is now at $3k or near that for sustainability and in that they really need to consider legitimate retailing and take some time in contemplating the big picture and their national agenda of moving to or enlarging the service sector. The value is in that shift to the channels beyond the factory.
This frame is marginally different to the XL185 that is already in mass production, but not to international standards. The welds are often inferior and sloppy, the metal quality and treatments, the overall fit and finish has to improve, the defect rates minimized. The industry can repeat the process they have already, in this version and in lots of forms. I believe they can and with low enough costs out of production to insure margins through channels to retail, however they have to work to establish contractual regional partners globally.
I believe the Tekken is a good version of that model, but it is not alone in the market, nor should it be.
ZF-KYMCO and some others offer similar models, less some of the cosmetics trappings. If you offer the Tekken then it should come with another versions of it, as not everyone like the same style.
Yep, agree with you MJH, at the moment the only 'variant' is taking off the small front mud guard. I'll tell the owners.
Zorge, no change of any bloody r and r, got Canton fair and the China Motorcycle Parts Fair this month and then Milan (and Mexico I think) next month.
Also, just finishing the first issue of china2wheels magazine which needs to be ready in time for Canton fair.
Canton fair, Motorcycle parts fair, EICMA...
Oh, poor you!
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When you have finished jet setting around the world and find your way to Chengdu I would be happy to buy you some bbq ribs and a frosty one. The second bike looks a bit like a board tracker, very retro, but being a sociable kiwi I try to avoid single seats. One never knows when a young maiden might need a ride.
That's the most sensible thing anyone has ever said Zhu!
I'll be in Chengdu as the coach of the Chongqing International Football Team at some stage soon (it's about time we beat the panda shaggers) I'll look you up for libations when I'm there.
Here's a few of the Tekken in Tibet
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Seems to me that Benyco would be the place to sell the café model.
Romet is selling the heck out of their Ogar and getting a slot in the Benyco line would be the best start for the Fuego.
If they have the rights to selling it under the brand Levis, which will be inevitably equated with the jeans regardless to the actual history of the Levis Motorcycle Company, which ended in 1940, outside of this generation. They should sell them as a sub brand and with the many add on custom parts. I would not be attracted by the Levis brand the significance of the Brand is lost when it is made in China and without any material connection. That being a genuine resurrecting of old designs opposed to just a resurrection of it for marketing. It could repel as many as if not more then it attracts, the connotations run the spectrum within the market without real legitimate market surveys I would not be sure if a brand or model name is positive or negative. For example to me Fuego is a Renault that was a piece of crap that looked like a weasel. Also google it what comes up, Fire, not sure if even a Spanish speaker would be attracted or would feel it was contrived? Neutrality is best and codes and key words best that bring up the item in HTML best.
So it could be offered through Benyco and best would be for less than the Romet and with more options. Which would be a base under 1200 Euro and options to doll it up or make it your own. If you think about that it could be a branded website linked to through Benyco with a build your bike function. In that you can build the profit.
Ha-ha! Same here! :icon10:Quote:
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But it was just "Renault" 18 based coupe, which was decent mid-80's car.