Like in the subject. I thought they are not here. I must have missed something. Good news
Bad news RMB71800
http://www.honda-dreamwing.com.cn/product/cb500x/
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Like in the subject. I thought they are not here. I must have missed something. Good news
Bad news RMB71800
http://www.honda-dreamwing.com.cn/product/cb500x/
They must be expensive to allow some 2nd rate Chinese company to have the lions share of the market.
You'll find some Zongshen, Shinray, Loncin or other dipshit company makes an exact copy of this for 40,000 but falls apart after 2 years and is totally unrideable after 5 years. Everyone buys those as very few can afford the real thing.
Its not the kind of bike Id like to have but since the one Id like is not available in China I was happy to hear about the CB500X. Unfortunately 72k is too steep. I just didnt get over the tax issue yet. Cant justify the extra cost. Id seriously think about it if it were 60k
71k is a lot, considering you still need to spend another 20k for the proper upgrade kit. And then you still need to add decent luggage.
Bike's not even worth 50,000 yuan. In the UK it's costs 5600 pounds, but that's with EU import taxes, dealer mark-ups a REAL warranty and 20% VAT sales tax. In China it should come into the dealer and be sold for 50,000 RMB sticker price on the shop floor.
It's actually the fault of the west to allow the Chinese to export millions of bikes but import one and suddenly 50% or more tax is added. The west is gutless and doesn't demand a level playing field. It's also the fault of Honda for being a pathetic company. A company that shouts 'motorcycles first, cars 2nd' and has a factory in Guangzhou where they banned all motorcycles and are going to ban all ebikes. They should have said 'ban bikes and we shut down the car factory bitches'. But they are so weak and hopeless that they let their own supposed principles and be walked all over.
We've thrashed this subject to death of these boards, always ending up frustrated and angry.
I want the CB500X, but I'll never buy one for that cost, and from such a spineless company as Honda.
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Amen brother, you're singing to the choir here... I'd only add... that one could easily edit your post with "Allowing the Chinese to export millions of <insert product here>"... and add/amend
"It's also the fault of <add company/government/country name here> for being a <insert expletive(s)/judgements here> company/government/country willing to" ...sell out on it's moral principles and ethics for capitalist greed and/or share-holder dividends.."
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I bought myself a CB500X though several months back, in the land of smiles (LOS)... given the changes in the Thai regulations curtailing the easy movement of vehicles into the country (especially targeted to vehicles arriving from PRC). While this might be relaxed somewhat, I decided to just buy a nicely farkled CB500X... and be done with it.
BikerDoc post are no good with out pictures I have heared you say many times here before on MCM.
Love to see some lovely pictures of your new Honda CB500X from the land of smiles mate.
I could stand a better chance to keep up with you now it being only a 500cc lol
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so true
Sure thing folks... here y'all then, enjoy some Cb500X porn...
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a lil more CB500X poorn...
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Since photos taken this past August 2016, I've added more farkles... to those installed;
side stand extender
rear hugger
12v accessory plug mounted to handlebars
handlebar risers
short folding clutch & brake levers
handguards
radiator guard
LED spotlights
More farkles to come
Looks good.... Nice truck in the background too!
Does one have to have a special visa to buy a bike in Thailand? Thai license? How long is the process?
Hi Modron
My bike is in a English friends who lives there and I am hoping to get it in my name this year only because it's easier to get the bike in and out of Laos.
Think you can get it in your name just on a tourist visa but you need a address say if you rent a place then you need a letter from landlord.
As to BikerDoc bike he need to chip in with that imformation.
No need for a Thail driving license but I am sure you could need a IDP.
From when you buy a new bike from a shop it takes about 6 weeks for all the bike documents and number plate to be ready.
But in the mean time the shop dealer can give you a spical plate which allows you to ride legally.
It cost about 50 Rmb.
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Nice!
Thanks for this Prince.Quote:
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Since I didnt finish my trip to Europe I have to start it again. I had this idea to buy a CRF250L in Thailand and ride it to Europe. Not anytime soon though. Will see how it unfolds ;)
One needs a long term Thai Visa to register/plate a Thai plated vehicle in Thailand. The Visa could be a tourist Visa of 6months or longer, or a business/employment/retirement Visa which are >6mth duration/validity.
It could also be helpful to have a 'house-book' (home/property ownership document) in your name, as that might suffice even if one had a 30-60day tourist Visa, to get a Thai plated vehicle into your name.
There are agents that can assist with the formalities, for a reasonable fee...
I paid about 600THB for the agents fee I used. The actual cost of registering ownership, including inspection was about 2400THB on the CB500X. Keep in mind this in Bangkok however, and different jurisdictions might have different rules and costs etc.
Welcome to TIT... 1000x better than a TIC any day of the week IMHO.
YMMV...
PS.
TIT = mammary gland :naughty:
TIC = parasite that feeds of a host :eek2:
...just saying
If this is your ideal now you can pick up 2nd hand Honda CRF 250l 1 year old with low km for 18.000 RMB or less .
And the bike should have extras allready fitted.
The only problem I see is what route you will take without entering China.
Geez, thats like rmb600 all together. Quite good deal. I will look into that visa option. Maybe there is an agent that can help with long term visa.Quote:
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If this is you ideal now you can pick up 2nd hand Honda CRF 250l 1 year old with low km for 18.000 RMB or less .
And the bike should have extras allready fitted.
The only problem I see is what route you will take without entering China.
I didnt look at the route yet but it would have to be through Myanmar and possibly Bangladesh into India , Pakistan, Afghanistan and on the Pamir Highway.
Again, Ive not checked the political and infrastructural conditions yet ;)
Before you think about a Thail bike.
Check to see if your route can be done.
For what you have said about the route without coming into China, I think it's going to be a NO NO Mordon.
And from what I have seen from your pictures the"Stans" is the way to go.
I did meet a girl from Singapore in Georgia. She rode her Vespa through Pakistan, Afganistan and Iran. Quite inspiring ;)
With most of these countries you will need a ATA which you know to well you have to leave a large deposit.
All the people I have meet in Thailand who has travelled from parts off the EU did travelled by way off China (Tibet ).
So I would consider the best way out off Thailand would be the same way in.
IMO I still think you are best to start from with in China and all you have to do is find the best bike to complete the trip on.
If it was not for your desire to travel off road then the CFMoto TR-G have proven to be a great bike.
But you need to rethink your route.
It is only an idea, nothing more. Will see how it develops.
Unfortunately I do have a strong desire to go off roading so the TR is too big for me. Who knows, maybe the MT will prove itself by the time im ready for the trip ;)