2017 CCW FXR125 The street legal version

Anyone ever had experience with Cleveland Motorcycles?

I have been fumbling through taobao all winter. I finally landed on this motorcycle/bicycle which has really caught my interest! All thoughts and opinions are welcome!

Designed by "Cleveland Motorcycles" but all parts and the majority of assembly is from right here in China. At only 150 pounds this thing could be a lot of fun to play on... maybe?

2017 CCW FXR125
"The FXx is not a dirt bike, it is not a mountain bike, it is a cross between the two. A small, lightweight bike that can take you to places and allow you to do things that heavier and bigger bikes can't.

The FXR, is a street legal version of the FX, with DOT / EMark headlight, tail light and turn signals. We have included a digital dash with speedometer, and trip meter. The bike is keyed with a lock cylinder. We have included large down tubes to accommodate a large Motobat high output battery. The on-road version comes with our Deluxe style, inverted forks. The handle bars sport a cross bar pad and cross linked handle bar risers for strength."
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These are definitely funky machines. Like the minis (and I have been eagerly awaiting the Lifan KPMini 150) these are probably not for me. Then again, I could see a few niches for this bike, so even though I had dismissed it when I saw it on CCW's site last year, and even when you posted it here, the more I look at it, in just this photo, I could see these being utilized for desert rides or forest rides and even taking people on group tours (i.e. loop trails). They probably don't leave as deep of a 'footprint' in the wild. Out of selfishness, I say "go for it" just to see your reviews on it!

Yeah I understand a lot of people just brush off these little bikes and are looking for something more. However I have a Triumph Speedmaster for long cruises and trips. I have a Duke 390 for just getting around the city and daily transportation. Now I will have a little dirt bike thing... to go and play on 5 acres of land that is just a hop and skip from my home.

I was also looking for something to teach my wife and little brother to ride on.

I was also looking for something that I could annihilate and if it breaks I wont cry so much.

SO! I sold my self. All the Mini's are off the table and I went ahead and ordered this thing. I want the 2017 model and I have to wait till the end of April for delivery of the model I want. The dealer assured me the 2016 is the same but hell it is only a two month wait time.

I will let you know how I really feel about it in say... 3 months?

Until then

Oh and I came really close to buying a little mini bike with a Lifan 150 on it. I was seconds away from pulling the trigger on that last week but it was just another street bike so I talked my self into another purpose instead of just another style!

Very cool! I look forward to reading about it and seeing photos/videos if you are so inclined. Like I said about renting these out or offering tours, I could probably do it right here in Yuma. Yuma is surrounded by sand; the kind of sand with the consistency of beach sand. The (famous for being the place they filmed "Return of the Jedi") Imperial Sand Dunes about 15 miles west of Yuma kind of shows what we have all around here. It is quad territory, or off-road buggy territory. There are flatter places close to the city, where I could see these being ridden (more than the dunes which I mentioned due to how our terrain is--very beach sandy, not very fun to ride two-wheeler territory), and since we get a huge influx of so-called snowbirds (retirees from the snow states and Canada who 'flock' this way) this could give them something to do as far as rentals go. There is a quad rental place in the city which the guy will tow the quads to meet you at a few places nearby, or you can rent quads at the Imperial Sand Dunes, but these are good as far as being street legal. Great side-business which I can imagine would have numerous headaches associated with it but I am looking too much on the bright side to see the negatives :riding:

What is the range on this thing. The tank is 3.2l and the consumption 367g/kWh...I do not understand this. Would it go 130-150km on a tank?

here are the specs

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What is the range on this thing. The tank is 3.2l and the consumption 367g/kWh...I do not understand this. Would it go 130-150km on a tank?

here are the specs

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I spoke with the dealer and they said 90 to 110km distance depending on rider and weight. Plenty for me to play in the field near my home and maybe ride to work once and a while. However you could always get a handlebar extension tank. They are cheap as hell and it would add some distance.

Problem... CCW says they designed the bike and have it made in China. However, Puzey out of South Africa said they designed the bike and have it made here in China. CCW says that Puzey is just selling their bike with another name but the Puzey was for sale before CCW was selling them. Interesting...

I need to ride about 30-40km to get to a place where I can enjoy that bike. I guess I could carry petrol in those camping, fuel bottles haha

How may bikes do you have now Modron? I thought you had a Shineray to play in the dirt on?

I have a shineray I bought but it is still not running. Not sure if I will ever get it back on the roads again.

My main reason for this is it is more like a bicycle. I love that it is only 150 pounds. I will be treating it more like a mountain bike!

Like I said, you can get a handlebar tank for it and get your extra km that way. I think that would be more convenient then a petrol can. I still really like that Aprilla drd125 but this is half the weight but also half the power.

I just bought a camera mount and all that Jazz for my helmet so once this thing is delivered I will shoot some video and post a review.

I have 4 if you count my electric 小马骡 :naughty:
The Shineray is ok but it it heavy. 161kg + 19l fuel, thats already 180kg and if you put on some crash bars and stuff.....not particularly light. Id love this small CCW to ride arount the mountain. Around my town there are a lot of mountains and a lot of difficult single tracks. I do not dare to take there my X5, Especially riding alone but this thing would be ideal.

Did you find a handlebar tank on taobao? I had a quick look and only found Acerbis for rmb1200 hahah

Waiting for some pictures mate! and a review :popcorn:

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I have 4 if you count my electric 小马骡 :naughty:
The Shineray is ok but it it heavy. 161kg + 19l fuel, thats already 180kg and if you put on some crash bars and stuff.....not particularly light. Id love this small CCW to ride arount the mountain. Around my town there are a lot of mountains and a lot of difficult single tracks. I do not dare to take there my X5, Especially riding alone but this thing would be ideal.

Did you find a handlebar tank on taobao? I had a quick look and only found Acerbis for rmb1200 hahah

Waiting for some pictures mate! and a review :popcorn:

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Sadly no, I was going to order one of the tanks from Revzilla since they ship to China.

BIG problem, not sure what I want to do now. The bikes came in at the dealer and just now the dealer is telling me that the CCW bike is only made for export so I can not get it street legal. He said he could send some non legit paperwork with it... Not sure how I feel about that. I was really looking forward to this thing. I mean, it will spend most of its time off road but I still need to get to the off road places. Even if I got the bike, I am not sure with that paperwork if I could get plates.

(crying inside)

Puzey Rocky FX 125

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CCW just put their name on it like Puzey. Can't you find the Chinese manufacturer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhKw9TAzrsA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTNm652MYxQ

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Sadly no, I was going to order one of the tanks from Revzilla since they ship to China.

BIG problem, not sure what I want to do now. The bikes came in at the dealer and just now the dealer is telling me that the CCW bike is only made for export so I can not get it street legal. He said he could send some non legit paperwork with it... Not sure how I feel about that. I was really looking forward to this thing. I mean, it will spend most of its time off road but I still need to get to the off road places. Even if I got the bike, I am not sure with that paperwork if I could get plates.

(crying inside)

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Not sure it be worth the non-legit papers, they sold here as off-road last year, now they have on road versions for the US. http://mall.newmotor.com.cn/motor/6732.html

I think it is pretty common to get faked up paper in china, anything over 150cc without EFI likely has false paper, but that bike stands out and could get unwanted attention. If you got caught you could say you did not know, what would be the penalty?

After some serious thought I am a little scared of getting my bike taken away.

Here in Changchun they are loading illegal bikes onto flatbeds daily. Really cracking down. I am heartbroken but I found an alternative but it is not nearly as appealing.

The manufacturer said the bikes are only made for export and can not be registered in China. Problem with fake paperwork is, here in Changchun they checked my vin on the bike, made a copy of it and added it to the file.

So, now I am looking at the 2017 Aprilia dirt bike. They bored the motor out and made it 150cc vs 125cc this year. It is still a 300 pound bike. I really wanted the superlight FX bike.

I remember you posted that on the China Bikes group on Facebook. Looks good, but seems pricey unless you have more serious plans for it.

What about the bike Doogle rode through China? I mean, not the one he rode since he sold it, but it was something like $1300 USD. He sold his for $3XX USD after his trip if I remember his post on advrider. Or what about those minis?

Thats a shame about that CCW...I was actually looking forward to owning one.
The Aprilia looks great! The one without the beak is good looking and good specs for a foreign/China bike. Has more power then the Honda CB190X and weights 20kg less, Yamaha XTZ125 is light years behind. Interesting

I am certain that CCW has Pioneer as their OEM and that manufacturer only exports, they should consider that they are not able to access the Chinese market due to that. Being able to sell that model in China could reduce production costs. A good example is Yingang and the Tekken, not sure how they split on that but the once export only is now available in China. Which means that production numbers should go up and with that unit costs of production fall. It is hard to say if the FX125 would sell well in China, it might, the minis do.
The FX125 is something totally new in concept, it really needs to attain volume in production and bigger distribution can reduce costs. Making a few and selling at high retail prices not such a good approach.
The industry has a lot of interesting dynamics, since nothing is ever really that proprietary.
I will not be paying over 2k for one in the US, they could be sold for much less, full size dirt bikes are still selling for under $1,500.00 here.

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I remember you posted that on the China Bikes group on Facebook. Looks good, but seems pricey unless you have more serious plans for it.

What about the bike Doogle rode through China? I mean, not the one he rode since he sold it, but it was something like $1300 USD. He sold his for $3XX USD after his trip if I remember his post on advrider. Or what about those minis?

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I lost interest in the Mini's during my search. For whatever reason I got totally sold on the FX bike and I think I am about to settle on the Aprilia. The 2017 comes in on May 10th and I will be at the door to check it out.

At least the Aprilia looks like sweet. Is it really lighter then the CB190X? I sat on the CB190 (dry) and it seemed pretty light.

Yes sad, CCW is export only and thats why I can get it illegally but can't get proper paperwork for it. My wife wants to buy the Aprilia CR150 Cafe bike. I might have a few small Aprilia's in the garage soon.

I don't think Puzey or CCW trust having the model sold in China. Does anyone really? I read an article the other day where KTM is having trouble with CFmoto already.

Yeah, specs say 126kg for the ADV aprilia and if you chose the ugly one with beak its 120kg. CB190X is 148kg, quite a big difference.

Interesting, though I am not looking at the ADV aprilia but I am looking at the Enduro. A new 150cc enduro replacing the 125cc. I can't find specifications on it anywhere. However it is supposed to show up at the dealer tomorrow (hopefully). Feels like I have been waiting forever.

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My wife wants to buy the Aprilia CR150 Cafe bike. I might have a few small Aprilia's in the garage soon.

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Ive seen this bike the other day, its gorgeous!

I believe the power rating on the engine is 15-18-20hp, for the 125,150,180cc. I have not seen the 180cc in these yet, it is only currently available in a Jincheng ADV model.
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