Road-ready Shineray XY250GY-2 Thoughts...

Im seriously considering buying the Shineray XY250GY 2 motard/dual sport/road-ready for a trip across China this summer.
Its a bit pricey and i cant get to see one before i buy so i thought id solicit a few opinions.
It looks and sounds great on paper.
Does anyone have one? How is it?
Are they suitable for carrying camping gear?
Theyre built to motorcross, so has it got what it takes to slug it all the way to Qinghai?
Any general thoughts welcome...

Oh, one last thing, is the seat big enough for me to get a chick on the back?

Cheers all...

Why not check out the Galaxy XTR 250? Not to discourage you on the Shineray, but they are available in China, and you should at least see it, as I am sure it would be similar to the Shineray. In other words, you could sit on it and check out where to strap gear and bags, and bring a girl with you to sit on it with you :naughty:....

Calcune - I wish, as close as i can get to a bike is looking at it on the net.

I've never heard of the Galaxy.

Any Pics.?

I'll be back in China later this week shoping for a new bike. I still have not had any luck with the Qingqi or the Shineray 250 motard, any news from any one?

Ok, this is the Galaxy XTR 250 with the air-cooled 230cc engine.

http://www.puzey.co.za/commuters/xtrmotard250_main.asp

The Galaxy versions have been seen around China from what I understand.

I am not sure if the liquid-cooled version of the XTR 250 is an OEM for Puzey/Pitster Pro/CCM or is also available through Galaxy, but here is a link to Pitster Pro's site's XTR 250 motard for photos:

http://pitsterpro.com/bike/photos/id/31

The Galaxy has also been discussed here on mychinamoto as it competed in and placed very well in the Taklamaken Rally last year:

http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=241

The sites for Galaxy, both their consumer site and their business to business site seems to be not up and running, so not sure if they were a victim of the economy or the communist government not liking them beating the state's teams.

Why would you want a Galaxy?

The bike is tiny, it will look silly and too small unless you are 5ft2.

The engine is a jurassic 230cc 12KW engine, Loncin or Zongshen. The Shineray has a 17-18KW water cooled-engine, they are in a different league on paper, at least. If the Shineray can be registered in China, it would be the better of the two.

Ive been told it can be licensed. I'll keep you posted when i get more information later this week.

If the Shineray can be registered. It is certainly a big IF:lol8:

Also the Qingqi 250cc motard still isn't ready, so true, you don't have endless choices.

I'd go with the Qingqi 200GY, the power is very similar to the Galaxy, despite the displacement difference, as the Qingqi has a more modern design.

Buying bikes in China is like trying to by computer hardware, there's better on its way for more money, but you've just got to wait a little longer.......:rolleyes1:

The good thing about the Galaxy is how well it did in the Takalakamen Rally last year. However, I forgot about the Qingqi 200 (with all these larger-engined bikes coming out) as that uses a Suzuki engineered engine. Just today on another thread, DanH mentioned that he was quoted 13,800 RMB in Wuhan before negotiations for the Qingqi 200 motard, but CrazyCarl stated that the enduro versions can be had for about 9000.

This is the definitive answer on the Shineray 250 GY2...
It is for sale and can be bought from the company, the price is 14-16,000 yuan (i know, not that definitive, i forgot).
However, it can definitely not yet be registered to ride on the roads in China. I was told this will change soon,few months maybe.
I have the msn of a guy there who speaks English and is very friendly,if you want it, let me know.
Word of warning, a love the sound of his own voice, salesman type told my Chinese speaking GF it could be registered, it wasnt until i did the research myself in English i found out it couldnt.
I bought a Zongshan Sierra in the end.. goes all right too.

Hey MGAlbion,
Thanks for the new info, if you didn't get my reply to your PM let me know and I will try another....

Hopefully I'll be back on the road in a few weeks.

Spoony

Hold your breath and money .
X2X(XY250GY-2 MOTAR) will be released in domestic market soon.
If your guys would like to have some fresh.
It will cost you an arm and leg.
I may be of little help if you want to get it now.

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Originally Posted by Shineray

Hold your breath and money .
X2X(XY250GY-2 MOTAR) will be released in domestic market soon.
If your guys would like to have some fresh.
It will cost you an arm and leg.
I may be of little help if you want to get it now.

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I would like one now please :deal:, cost is not an issue, I have an extra arm and leg :naughty:

Thanks
ChinaV

Shineray, do you work for hmm Shineray?

Tell us when the motorcycles can be registered, many people would like to buy them in China and ride them legally. If you can sell them for a reasonable price we can help you improve the bikes and publicize the bikes and increase export sales.

If anyone is still wondering about the galaxy XTR 250, i bought one a couple of months ago and am really happy with it. It's registered in nanjing, has plates and is fully road legal, so no problem there. It does need a fair bit of love, frequently check it all over for lose screws and that. 12000 wil get you a new one, the motard wheels are brilliant! the engine could really use a bit more grunt, but it's already plenty enough for me to kill myself on!

I talked with mister shineray himself today, nice guy, I would post his name here but he may not want me to do that, just send him a PM and he will get back with you.

I looked at the XY200GY-4 today, will post a pic of what they had on the showroom floor, only 9,600 out the door with out a plate, another 700 should get it legal. I'm leaning this way right now, just because of the hassle with the 250. I can ride this for a year, and then see if next summer they can get the 250 on the road legal.

Does any one know what kind of engine shineray is using, ie, like QingQi is a Suzuki knock off, and does it have a pretty good maintenance history.

Thanks for all the help and good posts,
Spoony

Picture of the exact bike on the floor today!

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Originally Posted by ZMC888

Why would you want a Galaxy?

The bike is tiny, it will look silly and too small unless you are 5ft2.

The engine is a jurassic 230cc 12KW engine, Loncin or Zongshen. The Shineray has a 17-18KW water cooled-engine, they are in a different league on paper, at least. If the Shineray can be registered in China, it would be the better of the two.

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Did I check out the wrong Galaxy, :WTFamI, the one from culcune's post says it has a seat height of 970, thats a bit tall to me.:confused1:
it was from this link: http://www.puzey.co.za/commuters/xtrmotard250_main.asp

Just asking because it looks cool, but too tall for my short ass:sad:

RRash,

Shineray uses Honda based motors. The GY4 you're looking at though is a Yamaha XT250 based design with a Honda motor in it so it's easy to get confused.

- Yamaha XT250 -
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/c...2_78f1e352.jpg

CC

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Originally Posted by Road Rash

Did I check out the wrong Galaxy, :WTFamI, the one from culcune's post says it has a seat height of 970, thats a bit tall to me.:confused1:
it was from this link: http://www.puzey.co.za/commuters/xtrmotard250_main.asp

Just asking because it looks cool, but too tall for my short ass:sad:

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I do think it's the same Galaxy at 970mm, which seems a bit high. Puzey (S. Africa and Australia) and Pitster Pro (US and Canada) have a version of something (I was told that it's not Galaxy derived, and might be an actual OEM as opposed to being a rebadged version of someone's bike) that uses the Loncin liquid-cooled 250cc engine. However, I am not sure if it is available in China!

http://pitsterpro.com/bike/specs/id/31

From the Pitster site, it states 36" but can be lowered to 32.5" (sorry for my laziness of not converting to metric, but you get the idea).

Here is the enduro version's specs:

http://pitsterpro.com/bike/specs/id/33

There is a good article on testing of an MX version from an Australian magazine:

http://pitsterpro.com/uploads/docs/XTR%20250.pdf

and if you bang around Pitster's gallery section on their site, there are photos of the enduro flying around and seemingly not falling apart!! :lol8:

The only catch is that I don't think these versions of the bike are actually available in China, so waiting for the Shineray might be the way to go, while we in the US will probably never see the Shineray, but can obtain the Pitster Pro--:eek2:

I'm back .
I'm officially Working for Shineray but May not know the domestic market as well as some of your guys. Just call me Shineray.

AS my upstair fellow said.
"The only catch is that I don't think these versions of the bike are actually available in China, so waiting for the Shineray might be the way to go, while we in the US will probably never see the Shineray, but can obtain the Pitster Pro--"
We may destroy this mind that you have. Shineray may have DOT approved MOTARD in US market very soon. Guys I'm sure Our X2 (motocross)will have a place that Pitster pro XTR250 may shock:wheelchair:X2X is on the way .Baby .:lol8::scooter:

If you are willing to purchase a X2X( MOTARD) In U.S. I'm the right person you should turn to .

For those who would like to spend your EXTRA RMB. call me at 86-23-65733920. Speak to MR Shineray

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Originally Posted by ZMC888

Shineray, do you work for hmm Shineray?

Tell us when the motorcycles can be registered, many people would like to buy them in China and ride them legally. If you can sell them for a reasonable price we can help you improve the bikes and publicize the bikes and increase export sales.

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I will post right here when it's ready.
Thank you guys :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Road Rash

I talked with mister shineray himself today, nice guy, I would post his name here but he may not want me to do that, just send him a PM and he will get back with you.

I looked at the XY200GY-4 today, will post a pic of what they had on the showroom floor, only 9,600 out the door with out a plate, another 700 should get it legal. I'm leaning this way right now, just because of the hassle with the 250. I can ride this for a year, and then see if next summer they can get the 250 on the road legal.

Does any one know what kind of engine shineray is using, ie, like QingQi is a Suzuki knock off, and does it have a pretty good maintenance history.

Thanks for all the help and good posts,
Spoony

Picture of the exact bike on the floor today!

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Carl posted the photo . You should have know that GY4 was based on YAMAHA250. They are exactly the same overall look.We make the engine ourselves. Shineray 200CC air-cooled engine.

B.T.W I forgot to tell you that. X2X(MOTARD) IS HUGE.seat height 920mm.
dry weight 125 kg.

Shineray,

Thanks for participating on MCM. You can see there are more than a couple passionate members about Chinese bikes here. As near as I can tell, just about 100 percent of the people you've exchanged ideas with are intelligent, committed people with a great potential to put your bikes to the test. I'm proud to say MCM probably has THE MOST serious riders of Chinese motorcycles anywhere on the Net! :thumbsup:

I'd like to ask you what are Shineray's plans for the next Taklamakan Rally?

:riding:
CC

Hey Shineray!

(Sorry for the hijack, guys:naughty:)

What about a GY-VII Military style here in the US?:deal:

I've actually been considering finding some 70's Jap enduro to "convert" to that style. Granted it's via spray cans and scrapyard finds.:gun_bandana:

Yeah, it's kinda a ghetto idea, but I've been waiting for LONG time for the Long March in the States.

Holla!:bling:

Ok, back to y'alls thread.......

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Originally Posted by CrazyCarl

Shineray,

Thanks for participating on MCM. You can see there are more than a couple passionate members about Chinese bikes here. As near as I can tell, just about 100 percent of the people you've exchanged ideas with are intelligent, committed people with a great potential to put your bikes to the test. I'm proud to say MCM probably has THE MOST serious riders of Chinese motorcycles anywhere on the Net! :thumbsup:

I'd like to ask you what are Shineray's plans for the next Taklamakan Rally?

:riding:
CC

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CC ,thank you for your reply. I'm not sure about the taklamakan rally.
but there might be Dakar rally in 2010. I will let your guys know when
I have official news

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Originally Posted by iMoose

Hey Shineray!

(Sorry for the hijack, guys:naughty:)

What about a GY-VII Military style here in the US?:deal:

I've actually been considering finding some 70's Jap enduro to "convert" to that style. Granted it's via spray cans and scrapyard finds.:gun_bandana:

Yeah, it's kinda a ghetto idea, but I've been waiting for LONG time for the Long March in the States.

Holla!:bling:

Ok, back to y'alls thread.......

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contact my MSN/mail at: liujames2001@hotmail.com

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Originally Posted by Shineray

CC ,thank you for your reply. I'm not sure about the taklamakan rally.
but there might be Dakar rally in 2010. I will let your guys know when
I have official news

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It will be interesting for Shineray if they enter the 2010 Dakar rally seeing as the KTM factory has pulled out.

Maybe Shineray should put out a 450 rally raid model.That would put the motorcycle world on notice.:thumbsup:


2011 would be a good year as the Dakar organizers have announced there will not be any motorcycles over 450cc in 2011.

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Originally Posted by bigdamo

It will be interesting for Shineray if they enter the 2010 Dakar rally seeing as the KTM factory has pulled out.

Maybe Shineray should put out a 450 rally raid model.That would put the motorcycle world on notice.:thumbsup:


2011 would be a good year as the Dakar organizers have announced there will not be any motorcycles over 450cc in 2011.

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Hi big damo. You do knows a lot about Dakar.
Yes only KTM offer 690CC rally bike. other company may reject this rally for it's nonsense and no competition at all. no offense to TKM.
I'm sure Dakar is a good opportunity for shineray to have a try .

What is the status of buying one of the XY250GY-2 for use on public roads in China, North America, and Europe. It's been a long time since we've heard something about the motard and dualsport versions of this bike. Tried their website, but a lot of the links are broken.

Any lurkers here own one? :popcorn:

Cheers!
ChinaV

You mean the X2? They were sent to Canada but looked like not in a road legal version. Forgot the company but I know it's on MCM somewheres. Also at least one copy was sent to jolly ol' England for testing. Videos of that are also on MCM but the post escapes me. I believe that version was going for road legal. If I can find the links I'll update them.

No news that I remember in the US or China. Maybe someone else can chime in?

CC