Hey in Beijin!

Hey everyone,

I've been riding an ebike for almost 2 years now, getting around Xiamen and Beijing , and since it seems i'll be here for a while, I've decided to finally fulfill my dream of owning a motorcycle. I'm still thinking about if I should go for the Ninja 250, or CFmoto 400nk, I don't care that much about styling, just a good beginner ride.

But anyway, i'll decide that after I take my driving licence exam in 2 weeks (thank you dcar for the great guide, thanks to you it was very straight forward to register).

I have a question for you guys, I tried searching the forum but I didn't find any thread about this. Does anyone know whats the process of buying a second hand motorcycle in beijing, one with a public jing B plate? I live just inside 4th ring road, I won't be able to register it under my name.

If anyone is looking for somone to ride with, send me a PM, would love to meet some people here.

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Originally Posted by Metalmonkey

Good luck with the test. It would be interesting to see how you booked this. Do you have to do the written test in Mandarin? Where is it booked? Beijing? Meaning you're registered as living in Beijing...

I beleive the JingB plates can only be registered to a Chinese person, no?

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B plate can be registered to Chinese if their residence registration is outside 4th ring. Or to a dealer company, or to a foreigner when he is residence registered in the very outskirts ( if I remember correctly areas like Huairou or YanQing).

Once you are fully legal with bike and DL, insurance etc feel free to contact me for riding. Only then! I don't want to spend hours in police checks or legal issues in case of an accident. I think this is a reasonable request.

The 250 Ninja is a reliable and nice, but dimensional small bike. Check out if it fit your height. If you have adventurousness better check something more suitable as the BJ mountains have also many back roads to discover where a Ninja would be abused. Feel free to ask for advise.

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think this is a reasonable request.

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A very reasonable request IMO with a further request that you can ride?
Don't want to wait too long for other riders to catch up lol.

I am partial to the KTM Duke line, it makes a great bike for sport riding, its pretty good off road with a pair of Shinko's or Pirelli MT50s and it makes a good touring bike if you get a better seat or seat pad. However if you are trying to save money, I recently had the opportunity to ride the new NK250 ABS version and it was a very pleasant experience. I have never been on the 400. I am with Shuben on the Ninja 250. It is not really a take anywhere bike for China. I would look around for a cb300 or something with more versatile seating position and suspension. If you do not plan to do any road trips though, the little ninja could be fun. I love the smaller cc bikes for just in town riding. I might buy a little honda cb190r just for that. It is a really fun bike also, their is another guy in beijing that rides his cb190r everywhere. If you ever make it way north, and you most likely never will since we have nothing worth coming to see, then I will ride with ya!

Passed the test yesterday! Had some weird tricky questions but managed to get 95 points. I bought the test answers from taobao and went through all of them, helped a lot, they are not 100% accurate, but pretty close, I will post them on the forum!

@Metalmonkey Booking was very easy, just need a couple of documents, there is a detailed guide from dcar, just search for "New PDF Guide: Getting your motorcycle licence in Beijing", shout-out for him ! it was very helpful. Yes you have to be registered in the city you are going to take the test.

@Shuben That is definitely a reasonable request, I will let you know as soon as I have everything in place, I'm planning to stay here for a while so getting into trouble is not an option. I will send you a message as soon as I have everything in check.

@Shuben @Asymptomatic thanks for the info on the Ninja, I am looking for something a bit more than just a city bike, I think I will keep my Niu for short trips around the city, it's great for shopping and doing errands.

I would love to use the bike for weekend trips around Beijing, maybe even longer ones in some holidays.

I was also looking into the KTM Duke, but it's a bit out of my price range this year, so I think best bet would be to get something around 20k (keeping second hand as an option).

@Asymptomatic where did try the NK250? I looked into it, and it would seem perfect for my budget. Are there any dealerships in Beijing? Didn't find any info on that on their website.

Any other bike recommendations would also be great.

Also I'm looking into buying a jacket, last week was super warm already, so I am thinking about a mesh jacket with hard shell protection, but can't seem to find one. Do you guys wear Chinese brands? I see Nerve is pretty popular.

Looking forward to riding together !

Congrats! Did you have a foreign bike license before?

When you want to go out of BJ also for overnight stays and longer trips I advise definitely an "all road" bike.

for small money: Honda CB190X or Suzuki DL250 Vstrom
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm...ucket=5#detail
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm...ucket=5#detail

for medium money: CFmoto 650 MT
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm...ucket=5#detail

and my favourite: MG500
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm...ucket=5#detail

Alternatively the Shineray 440 line or some Benellis

IMO for longer distance a twin cylinder bike is more comfort.

Send me a PM if you need more info and I can also name you some reliable dealers.

Well done that man on passing the test.
96 very good
CFmoto in Beijing
There is a very good one that has a large showroom with loads of Riding gear as well.
But I lost all my bookmarks on my maps the other day.
Talk to Shuben he will know the place I am sure.
Was very impressed with the workshop set up as well.
The new NK250, spot on a good starter bike.
Last year spent 14 days riding around the far west of Beijing mountains.
I was surprised how good it was.
Ps, ShuBen it's the big dealer south of Beijing with the shop workshop just off the main road
And the showroom on the main road.


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In the same shop, I purchased a REV'IT mesh Summer/winter jacket, not cheap but IMO (2800RMB} a very good brand.
It comes with a removable winter liner, so cool in summer hot in winter.


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I purchased the jacket for my trip to Thailand were at times temperatures was hitting 45c



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Hi,

Congrats on passing the test.
Did you do your theory in Mandarin or English?

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Hi,

Congrats on passing the test.
Did you do your theory in Mandarin or English?

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The shop mentioned from Prince is most probably QiLi motors just inside south-southeast 5th ring. I wasn't there for a while but, yes, already then it was huge and had from scooter to big CC bikes a large variety to display. Also accessories and gear they have a lot.

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Originally Posted by ShuBen

The shop mentioned from Prince is most probably QiLi motors just inside south-southeast 5th ring. I wasn't there for a while but, yes, already then it was huge and had from scooter to big CC bikes a large variety to display. Also accessories and gear they have a lot.

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Here the map for QiLihttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d237c86ac6.jpg

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Thanks, Mr Ben

lossed all my bookmarks on MapsMe
Was very impressed with the shop.
Great service support and well-trained machines.
As you mentioned a well stocked retail shop which is worth a visit.
Has a full range of top brand stuff.

Please if you could add the GPS numbers for the shop will help people to find.

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Originally Posted by prince666

Thanks, Mr Ben

lossed all my bookmarks on MapsMe
Was very impressed with the shop.
Great service support and well-trained machines.
As you mentioned a well stocked retail shop which is worth a visit.
Has a full range of top brand stuff.

Please if you could add the GPS numbers for the shop will help people to find.

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I need to check with a friend for more shops. The QiLi motors has a separate section for CFmoto and a lot of other bike and scooter brands. But I missed the vast selection of gears and helmet shown on tour photo. So I guess there must be another big shop in that area. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4af5294280.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...be7f784a2e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...46ad358119.jpg

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@modron thanks! The test was in english

Visited the Qili store this Sunday, they have a big selection of bikes and staff is really nice, was a bit surprised because they are dressed a bit like police officers haha. Even though they don't speak english we used a translation app for communication.

Looked at the NK's and the only thing that put me off was that the instrument clusters seem a bit low quality, at least compared to the Honda CB190.

Their prices are the same as on the official website, just I feel that they charge a bit too much for the jingB registration, almost 2000 RMB.

After the last visit I am leaning more towards the honda than the NK. I was searching on XianYu, and found a one year old one at a pretty decent price, the guy has a private plate, but he agreed to change it to a public one and support the costs. Going to check it out next week.

@Shuben the gear store is on the side road perpendicular to the motorcycle dealer one, about 200m away. Unfortunately I got a bit lost getting there on one of my friends gas scooters (not riding on the ring roads makes things complicated), so I arrived just after they closed the gear shop.

Btw, my friend has a gas scooter, he paid 4500 rmb for it, including registration, the store said it's 50cc, but it goes to 100km/h! Riding it makes me really excited about getting a bike.

Do you guys know if the traffic cameras work for the motorcycle licences? And if yes, and I have a public jingB, does the fine go to the company it is registered to?

Thanks for the info!

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Do you guys know if the traffic cameras work for the motorcycle licences? And if yes, and I have a public jingB, does the fine go to the company it is registered to?

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Never had a Traffic Camera fine on any of my bikes in 10 years? Not sure if there work or don't care?

That said you live in the Beijing area, so things may be different.
Fines get logged against the bike, check with your Chinese friends about the Chinese website where you can check if the bike has any fines logged.

There is also a Chinese app that you can load on your phone that will send you a text message when a fine pops up.

Also its always best to clear fines before the start date of you Chinese DL?.

Take 10 points say 1 day before this date, then 1 day after this date the points are cleared?

Also "IF" the bikes need to be inspected, no inspection can be carried out until the fines are cleared?

TIC

In BJ partly motorcycles are catched by cameras.
Especially watch out JingMi Road (over speeding) parallel to airport expressway and the emergency lanes at airport expressway (driving on emergency lane).
There you win a ticket for sure.

Tech inspection gets very strict now. On my GS1200 even the engine guards need to be taken off and slip on exhaust had to be replaced against original pipe.
... and yes, without clearing penalties and valid insurance you wont get a renewed sticker.
The good thing is, that they send you a info for the upcoming inspection requirement to your mobile. Big brother doesn't forget you :-)

Same with Shanghai. Inner Ring they are catching bikes and scooters a like for speeding, parking, not yielding... blah blah. I personally have not yet... but many fellow riders.

Hey guys,

Thanks for the advice, ended up getting a CBF190x, found it a bit more comfortable than the CB190r. And for a bit better price than the CB190x. Got it from a second hand dealear, 13300 including all paperwork, 2017 model, public jing B.

Gonna do some night and weekend riding for a while, until I get the hang of changing gears, hopefully can take it out for an out of town ride sometime next month.

Give a wave and a honk if you see a foreign dude riding it with full face helmet and jacket in this sweaty heat lol.

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Great news

Good luck with the new bike.
You will soon get the hang of changing gears.
Lol
After nearly 40 years riding I still miss a few. Lol

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Hey guys,

Thanks for the advice, ended up getting a CBF190x, found it a bit more comfortable than the CB190r. And for a bit better price than the CB190x. Got it from a second hand dealear, 13300 including all paperwork, 2017 model, public jing B.

Gonna do some night and weekend riding for a while, until I get the hang of changing gears, hopefully can take it out for an out of town ride sometime next month.

Give a wave and a honk if you see a foreign dude riding it with full face helmet and jacket in this sweaty heat lol.

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Nice bike! I had a question about your second hand dealer. Was it a company? I am interested in buying a used bike from a dealer because it seems safer but not sure where to go. Any pointers would be appreciated!

Sung

If by a company you mean a guy who opened a company and is dealing motorcycles, then yes, it's a company :D. It's not a big operation, but the guy seems OK, and he seems to be moving a lot of bikes. Didn't have any problems, and he is helpful, also has a mechanic hired that fixes up any issues. My chain was getting a bit loose and he adjusted it for free for me this weekend.

If you are interested you can add my wechat: sergiuh

I can put you guys in contact.

Sergiu

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Originally Posted by hulpesergiu

Hey guys,

Thanks for the advice, ended up getting a CBF190x, found it a bit more comfortable than the CB190r. And for a bit better price than the CB190x. Got it from a second hand dealear, 13300 including all paperwork, 2017 model, public jing B.

Gonna do some night and weekend riding for a while, until I get the hang of changing gears, hopefully can take it out for an out of town ride sometime next month.

Give a wave and a honk if you see a foreign dude riding it with full face helmet and jacket in this sweaty heat lol.

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Hi, so is the bike registered in your own name, or to a company?

Thanks

@draco888 the bike is registered to a company

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@draco888 the bike is registered to a company

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Please forgive the noob question but....

So the title of the bike stays in the dealers name but beneficial ownership is transferred to the individual?

Is there a link to a post explaining this procedure in more detail?

TIA