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Hello,
I am thinking of selling my Yamaha XTZ 125.
The bike is about 2 and a half years old, fitted with a 200CC engine conversion and Mikuni TM24 carb, uprated exhaust I bought from Brasil, YZ125 from forks and wheel, loads of small mods. I need to make way in my shed for an SWM RS300R.
The bike is fully legal with Huizhou, Guangdong plates. Any takers ? Any reasonable offers ?
Symon
The bike banned city?! How you gunna change names or keep papers up to date on that!?
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Hello NZbrakelathes.
I wasn't aware that bike were banned from Huizhou. I spoke to my wife about this and she told me one of he friends bought a Honda last week and it has already been registered.
Maybe you know something more about this, please explain.
Ask SerientZa or C-Milk from Churchill customs, my mate has a bike from them and had some issues to get it audit and insurance done by these guys. I was questioning more and making a comment based on some maybe little info as I'm wayyyy out up in Chengdu but it's worth checking on the legal process assuming people want it legally in their name etc. if not just ignore my post
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NZbrakelathes
I passed the technical inspection for my Yamaha a month ago, and got new insurance about 2 weeks ago. I have not had any problems at all.
Maybe motorbikes have been banned in Huizhou city centre, I'll check up on that. Where I live life continues as normal.
Just thinking about it, if something had changed my Chinese riding mates would have told me.
Ok sure, it's just worth noting etc as changing names can or might be an issue. With modification it might also have some issue as in theory the bike must or should be very stock looking and technical parameters the same as in the green book. Some funny rules here as mods seem to be ok at audit or technical inspection yet not at ownership change, and I've hear if a local rider being ticketed for lights being added to his bike (small spots very minor mod but it was demented illegally modified) TIC and nothing is clear till you go thru the process only then will you know at that time with that person what's right or wrong. And it can change the next day with another person
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I personally always suggest bikes in own name and check on the requirements to do so and changing cities has become a load of issues in the last year or so in my experience.
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There are only 2 things on my bike that are different form the photo of the registration documents :- hand guards and lower fork protectors. Both can be removed in 5 minutes. I did this when the bike recently got tested. No problem at all. I thought I might have a problem with the knobbly tyres but they did not mention anything at all.
The bike is registered in my sister in law's name as for some reason the local Yamaha dealer couldn't register in a foreigner's name in Huizhou, at the time I asked about this in other cities in Guangdong and I got the same reply.
Now that we have cleared up some of the legalities about my bike, anybody interested ? I would prefer to sell as the other option is to give to my father in law to use.
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I personally always suggest bikes in own name
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Makes life alot easy when you come to sell the bike, insurance, Inspection .
Prince666
I would if I could but when I bought this Yamaha in Guangdong it was impossible to register in a foreigner's name. I wanted to register in my wife's name but couldn't do that as well as she already had a bike registered in her name. So next best option was to use one of my Chinese family as the owner of the bike, so I used my sister in law's name. All quite ridiculous.
Same happened with my Motorbike driving license, I couldn't do the test in Guangdong so I went to Haikou to do it instead.
Why China makes it so difficult to be legal I can never understand, it just wastes time, money and does not reduce the number of illegal riders on the roads.
I truly understand your frustration in this matter.
If I may just point out 1 thing, when there normaly say "No" it means I am to lazy to find out how to do it so the answer is NO.
IF all your documents line up? Then you CAN have the bike plated in your name.
Prince666
I think it is a problem in Guangdong province.
One of my brother in laws is an ex policeman, he has lots of contacts back in his home town. He tried really hard for me to get my bike registered in my own mame and for me to do the test, it was imposible. If the bike is in my sister in law's name it is ok for me and can easily be transfered and for my driving license it just ended up costing me a small fortune to get.
One thing I have always tried to do is to be legal but in China it is very difficult and time consuming. I suppose the Chinese government doesn't want su to be here.
I've offered and local whites don't like - driver license help locally legally and with the ok for 5 people starting from scratch or converting license from back home
Here the local white folk are very ... self entitled or feel they are above things or should have their egos stroked and I'm not the guy who bullshits with flowery words but I am the guy that gets the job done legally. I make little to no excuses for bullshit nor do I take any from anyone including police etc, know the law and they will go thru with it.
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Do you have the form from the police that shows where you live, with your Chinese name on it? A valid passport and visa? A tax invoice for second hand bike sale from the owner to your name address in Chinese, then the DMV has no legal right to refuse you unless they don't register bikes anymore - that's the law and the basic principles are the same in all China legallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Symon260z
Tax amount changes city by city but the general law is the same in this regard, they need your identity and address etc not even a license.
Your audit and insurance must be up to date too etc and no messed up chassis number or engine number etc those details in the green book must be perfect pretty much and bike should look like factory pretty much as well
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Spot on NZB
As I said EVERYTHING MUST BE INLINE.
I post this again not for Symon, he has made his point.
But for other readers who may wish to puchessed a bike in the future.
From my passed exprenace with 5 bikes and 1 car in my name the hard part was paying the "TAX" but after 2 days aurguring with the Tax office that a none Chinese person can have a Chinese Tax code.
But remember if you get this far and do pay the Tax under your name.
Ask for the Tax code for furture payments, will save you a lot off time with further payments.
And I am sure the same Tax code can be used in other Provinces.
But even if it can't you have a good starting point when there say NO?
For you Symon who staterd this thread just to sell your bike .
If may be very important for a buyer who would only buy your bike if it can be in his name?
It's great and easy to have the bike in a friends name? But at some point let it be because you have been involde in an accident or just stop by the police, then the named owner has to be present.Quote:
sister in law's name
That's fine if it's only 10km away but if you are on a ride and 2000 km away.
Not only you but the owner will off wished it wasn't in there name.
You also could have a situation we're the owner won't come.
In that case you loses your bike.
Ok when it's some shit 5000 rmb bike but a 70.000 rmb SWM.
Tax code? I haven't struck that in Chengdu - they require the persons name and address Chinese name as in yours like on license seems better and sellers name etc.
Chengdu 10 or so minutes waiting job done, bikes seem to be 200 yuan here but that is here and differs in cities
Hi NZB
Maybe we are not talking about the same thing.
I am talking about TAX which is payable on a NEW bike .
Normally is about 7% of the puchessed price and you get a little blue book?
Yes I got that no issue as well as on a used bike the tax invoice, I had to go to the bigger office where foreigners could do it not my local area
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I registered a new bike, well not yet with a plate but bike was used so falls in the same as new bike, I had to get a shop sales invoice official etc then blue tax book looking form then insurance then DMV
A CQR in fact - as a learning curve
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Yes I had to do that and no drama at the main one in our city as that was to only tax office that could or would deal with foreingers
how much does the owner want for this bike anyway? "Make me a fair offer" is Greek to me.
also, what kind of "conversion" are we talking about? As in, did you convert the engine from Catholic to Pentecostal (Big bore) or to Islam (total replacement)? Prince's "bang" story comes to mind.
Come on Steve you can be a "buyer" and a "seller" at the same time. lolQuote:
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Ho and by the way this is Greek.
Κάνε μου μια δίκαιη προσφορά :naughty: