Xining- Chongqing

Anyone interested in riding with me.. Xining to Chongqing? Sept or Oct 2017

First riding South from Xining then SE into Sichuan, past Kangding and on to Chengdu, then up to Chongers...

I have a dual sport Shineray X2. If you had a similar bike then great, or we could work together for your purchase of one.

If you want to see the stunning scenery on this route and have a VPN, check ot\ut this guy's youtube vid . He actually scateboarded it in three weeks.. So we'd ahve it much better off

https://youtu.be/igSXQwo7-Fc

No takers for this? I'm currently trying to outside members of the Shanghai insiders group (motorcycle enthusiasts and cj750 tour guides) to come.

Perhaps I should include some pictures..

This blog shows the route Kangding to Yushu in southern Qinghai to be pretty spectalular..

http://www.thelandofsnows.com/tibet-...ding-to-yushu/

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Next year though now as temperatures in winter are minus degrees with 5000m + mountain passes.

I'm looking at tents for the journey. Choice so far is the two person four season Allak from Hilleberg. Top dollar (7-8 k yuan in China) but extremely rugged.

http://us.hilleberg.com/EN/tent/red-label-tents/allak/

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I'm also looking at options to improve range in terms of fuel- carrying fuel on the X2.. just gonna get a 5L extra tank to put on the back

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm...cket=16#detail

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like this ....X2 only has 11L (or 10?) and on the last trip I was nearly filling up twice a day.. ran out once.

X2 has 8L if i remember right. There is also another cheap Shineray Enduro with a big tank. I would say 15L(?).
I imagine by rearranging the coolers maybe worthvyo think about a fit. ....

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X2 has 8L if i remember right. There is also another cheap Shineray Enduro with a big tank. I would say 15L(?).
I imagine by rearranging the coolers maybe worthvyo think about a fit. ....

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Yes I had a feeling it was 8 but their website says 10.. atm

what's this other tank? seems like a lot of work:)

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I'm also looking at options to improve range in terms of fuel- carrying fuel on the X2.. just gonna get a 5L extra tank to put on the back

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm...cket=16#detail

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like this ....X2 only has 11L (or 10?) and on the last trip I was nearly filling up twice a day.. ran out once.

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Be careful with how much weight you put on that rear subframe. If you're camping, you're going to be carrying plenty of other weight. It's hard to believe the X2 is almost 10 years old and still doesn't have a decent aftermarket extended fuel tank.

The X2 was never popular as it is too high for the most riders.
So the sales if aftermarket parts is not interesting

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The X2 was never popular as it is too high for the most riders.
So the sales if aftermarket parts is not interesting

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Yeah, that's what all Chinese observers of the bike say.. How tall it is.. But I wanted a tall bike with ground clearance for the plans that haven't (yet) been realised.
I think I mentioned before about developing after market tanks. My friend who is in manufacturing says plastic moulding is expensive etc. Didn't you mention, shuben , taking another model's tank?

It's really hard to swap tanks from other bikes. Finding the right spacing in all the critical areas is almost impossible. If the tank touches in the wrong place it will wear through. If you're lucky, that means a leak, if you're unlucky, it blows up.

I wouldn't spend that kind of money on a tent. You can find a decent 3-4 season tent for less than 3000 yuan easily. Crashes happen, and tents get ground up during crashes. Seen it happen more than once. Also seen people lose camping gear to theft or falling off the bike.

Hmmm, decisions decisions... Regarding the fuel tanks. I actually just ordered a 3L and 5L one with rotapax style mounting(310 on taobao with clips), then refunded.. obviously on my bike I need to keep weight right down. I'm considering a 7 litre bag..180 yuan. Would be easier to store on the bike when not in use.. Just roll it up.... But I just can't imagine the people at the petrol stations in China agreeing to fill one of these up.

Plus.. Cue advice about my turning into a human fireball... China made.. Safe? Advisable? Does anyone use them? I saw an Aussie guy who crossed the desert there with a 20L similar bag.. But probably a foreign made one..

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About the tent, well I found a light back-packer tent in decathalon..999 yuan a two man tent. As I'm traveling in spring/summer should be okay with a decent sleeping bag.

To add information to the above.. My plan is to take the North West road from kangding in Sichuan to yushu in Qinghai then probably up via tingri to Xining. My bike only has an eight liter tank from the factory.

If you want decent quality camping gear, take a look to Naturehike product line. It's Chinese brand, not bad quality at all. My workmate bought couple of tents and some sleeping bags from them - completely satisfied

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It's really hard to swap tanks from other bikes. Finding the right spacing in all the critical areas is almost impossible. If the tank touches in the wrong place it will wear through. If you're lucky, that means a leak, if you're unlucky, it blows up.

I wouldn't spend that kind of money on a tent. You can find a decent 3-4 season tent for less than 3000 yuan easily. Crashes happen, and tents get ground up during crashes. Seen it happen more than once. Also seen people lose camping gear to theft or falling off the bike.

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Oh okay, Just saw that the SWM 650 enduro because it is basically the old Husqvarna already has lots of aftermarket parts available..including the 25L safari tank. I wonder if this is true of the 500.

BTW China V- that old forum post you have on here with Felix going up by Panzihua, now that must have a home somewhere else on the web too, no? Very lengthy report and exploratory style trip.

There was another post on here about making a China-style TAT
http://www.transamtrail.com

or as in Europe the TET
http://www.transeurotrail.org

Maybe not a strictly off-road link up but a site that pools all the awesome rides in China would be great.

About this trip, I'm trying to drum up enthusiasm amongst Shanghai riders to join me going West ..Lol

My blog post.. I'm thinking how much of this "China bucket List" could I tick off in 2018?

https://www.mychinablog.com/where-iv...here-im-going/

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If you want decent quality camping gear, take a look to Naturehike product line. It's Chinese brand, not bad quality at all. My workmate bought couple of tents and some sleeping bags from them - completely satisfied

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Thanks for the tip about Nature Hike. Tents with nice features, lightweight and cheap.

Be careful with Naturehike. Tents seem to be ok as they have recently improved their quality but watch out for the poles. They break easily. Get yourself a set of those lil aluminum pipes that go over a snapped pole.

Under no circumstance buy inflatable pads from Naturehike. Mine leaked air the second time Ive used it and my buddies was leaking from the beginning.

Kailas is a much better brand than Naturehike or at least I have a better experience with them.
Luxe makes good tents too but a bit more expensive

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BTW China V- that old forum post you have on here with Felix going up by Panzihua, now that must have a home somewhere else on the web too, no? Very lengthy report and exploratory style trip.

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That ride report was posted here and on ADVrider. I think the portions of the trip from Panzihua to Chengdu have probably changed a little in road quality, but some of that stuff was seriously remote and it's difficult to know if the roads improved. If I was still in China, I would get a dual sport with a big tank and explore the shit out of that area.

It's depressing that we never get ride reports from those regions, hell we barely get ride reports from any area.

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ride reports from any area.

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http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...v-riding-71234

Ride safe! PAL

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hell we barely get ride reports from any area.

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with over 80.000km Motorbike riding all over China just last year, I could post a few RR but I won't??
Get to pissed off with moderators on here and don't have the time to waste (not you ChinaV).
So, for now, we will just have to put up with PAL posting link to RR on other sites who just happens to be the same person LOL

Better than nothing.
Or maybe not?

http://www.rideasia.net/motorcycle-f...venture-Riding



That was funny now northing....... only happens to nice people

Meet the 2 FACELESS RIDERS heheheh


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Just an update, I'm still planning this trip. Having met a fellow MCM forum member today, I may have a partner for the Journey. ..
Basically Chengdu- Xining via Kangding, Yushu, Tingri etc. Great. Just need to solve the oil eating problem. Also potential riding partner will sort out a Chinese license. Still concerned about the Shineray 250's reliability for such a trip.I'm concerned because it's carburated and of course that it's developed this oil problem after 5,000km of my riding it. It's been a good bike to do the few trips I've done- Beijing to Shanghaihttp://ww.mychinamoto.com/forums/sho...late-June-2017 or at my own blog https://www.mychinablog.com/hello-world/

My recent trip to Zhejiang for nine days...http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...-into-Zhejiang

and the mini adventure to Moganshan..http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...ight=moganshan

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Is this spam? Or an attempt to write Vietnamese? Or both?

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Looks like my English to me lol