Re: Mastering Google Maps
Awesome tutorial, ChinaV. How the f*&K did you figure all that out? Don't you have a fulltime job? Do you ever sleep? Anyway, this MCM denizen deeply admires your geotechnical prowess. Wow.
I have two questions:
1) I'll take your word that none of this works in the iPhone. But is that perhaps in the works? Is there something in the jailbreak/Cydia universe that would be able to accept a .kml map of this sort? Or is this just an unfortunate outcome of the Google-Apple rivalry in mobile world, with no likelihood of a solution?
2) Is it possible to download that google map into my Garmin Zumo 660?
Again, beautiful tutorial, for which many thanks!
cheers
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I made it a sticky thread as ChinaV was too modest. Thanks mate.
It is valuable and relevant, and usable for a lot of people, so add your various questions and comments and solutions about anything Google maps and related GPS issues for now, with the proviso that we will split off other related Q and A if they become cumbersome, ie if we get lots on Garmin, then we will have a Garmin thread. etc. Those decisions will be ChinaV's as it is his expertise and hard work!
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euphonius
1) I'll take your word that none of this works in the iPhone. But is that perhaps in the works? Is there something in the jailbreak/Cydia universe that would be able to accept a .kml map of this sort? Or is this just an unfortunate outcome of the Google-Apple rivalry in mobile world, with no likelihood of a solution?
I'm not sure if this kind of thing is an Apple or Google issue. When I had my iPhones, I just couldn't get this to work, and it's the main reason I never considered another iPhone. Google Maps on Android and WinMobile have no offset issues and can easily open these custom KML files, I hear lots of conflicting reports about maps on iPhone having, or not having, the offset.
Also have heard a bit about using the "My Maps" account with google to open custom maps on iPhone, but since I don't have one anymore, I can't try it. You can easily create a google account for free and load the example kml I posted at ...http://www.contactdi.com/map/107.kml... then save it to your "My Maps" account and then try to log into your "MyMaps" account on your iPhone. If it works, that would be great. I usually hit Hong Kong at least once per month and whenever I get my paws on an iPhone or iPad, the first thing I try is to open the kml via the search bar in maps... it never works.
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euphonius
2) Is it possible to download that google map into my Garmin Zumo 660?
Some Garmin GPS units support KML files and some have browser plugins that are supposed to allow uploading a route. I only have Garmin Mobile XT for pocket PC, and there isn't any way of loading a route, but you can load a single waypoint directly from your browser using Garmins crappy plug in for Safari.
One thing you can do with any Garmin unit:
Take the kml file you have and go to http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/ There's a built in converter that will change your file from KML to GPX. Once it's in the GPX format, you can load it into your Garmin GPS. Some Garmin units allow you to just put the file on your SD card, others require Basecamp or Mapsource to upload the GPX track.
Cheers!
ChinaV
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Absolutely awesome ChinaV !! Thanks a lot for taking the time to post all this with screenshots and all !
One of my geek friend is also thanking you, as I was on his back all the time asking him how to do this exact thing, and also to force him to sell me his "old" HTC, teasing him with the newest one... Now I only have to insist on the HTC part. ;-))
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Thanks, V, I just learn a new trick downloading a google map route into a kml file and making it ready for usage.
About the question from the other thread, I was curious that anyone has been aware Google Maps mobile can overlay Mymaps' route, so that one at least can see the route at his phone as he goes.
Mymaps has some advantage than the exporting kml way describe at this tutorial. After a planed route saved to Mymaps, modify the waypoints, route still snap to roads. You get similar flexibility in Mymaps as in Google Maps. At my test import the kml back to Mymaps does not. But V's way solve one problem that Mymaps cannot save route with options, either "avoid toll" or "avoid highway". Google should make that work, but not now. Another is Mymaps is simple, one don't have to be a GPS geek like V:icon10:.
Google Navigation can't load Mymaps route, it would be one key selling point for me, maybe that's why the app still in beta.
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...Once it's in the GPX format, you can load it into your Garmin GPS.
I haven't touched pro Gps device like Garmin, did you mean Garmin can voice navigate thought pre-load GPX route?
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did you mean Garmin can voice navigate thought pre-load GPX route?
No, it can't do that. The uploaded GPX will show up as a track instead of a route, so you still need to manually plot your route if you want turn by turn voice navigation. The GPX track import is mostly used for roads that don't show up on the Garmin maps or to help you plot your route.
TD, you are correct about some of the editing advantages of using "MyMaps". One thing I have not tried comparing is what happens if you are following a route with a MyMap layer and you lose internet connection? With the KML file loaded in the above example, you lose the map background, but you can still see the pink line and your position. I know the offline support of Google Maps is getting better, so that will probably not be an issue soon, and I'm sure MyMaps will get all the features necessary to avoid this kind of complicated mess sometime in the future.
One other nice thing with the KML file is sharing. If your friend calls while on the road, and asks for a twisty route, you can tell them to load the KML file and they can follow along. It's a bit complicated to share your MyMaps route with a friend via smartphone.
Cheers!
ChinaV
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First of all, thanks for the excellent write up :thumbsup:, particularly from 8 onwards.
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TD, you are correct about some of the editing advantages of using "MyMaps". One thing I have not tried comparing is what happens if you are following a route with a MyMap layer and you lose internet connection?
Yes, the line from MyMaps and your position will still show, even when the Internet connection is lost.
I am not sure but it seems that as soon you load a map from MyMaps, caching concentrates on the area the map covers - again, not sure but it seems to be.
Some remarks from my experience with Google Maps.
The map link is different in Chrome (at least in XP Pro), and doesn't work with the "&output=kml"
http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/as...1&d=1298255436
I usually don't select the start and the end and drag the points, but choose the end pretty near the start and then add one by one destination (right click - add destination). I find it a bit easier to force where I actually want to go and it doesn't re-calculate the whole route when you only drag the last destination you've added, but that's just a matter of taste.
The good thing on MyMaps is that you can save the maps, share and collaborate with others and create day by day routes for longer trips. The good thing is that the method described by ChinaV from 8. onward still works.
According to my experience the filename and pathname for the kml shouldn't contain special characters as it won't open.
Again, thanks for starting this :clap:
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Now this is where many of you have a problem. You can't open this file in Google Maps without it being stored online. That means you need access to a web server that will host the file for you. I don't know how you can get that for free, maybe someone can chime in with some suggestions. I don't mean something like rapidshare or mega-upload, you need a plain jane folder being served by a normal web server. I will be happy to post a file or two for people here, but it's not a service I can reliably offer to everyone. You can shoot me a PM and I will give you my email to send the file if you want to try it.
Dropbox's online backup service offers direct links to your files; upto 2 gb free total. Unfortunately it's bl*cked in China. I needed such a service for my students, if anyone knows an equivelant service that's still not blocked, please let me know.
Thanks for the great writeup V, especially step 11. I did something similar before I went to Chengdu, but without stepp 11, all I got was the points where GMaps tells you to turn. I ended up with waypoints I use just for confirmation that I'm getting closer to my destination. With the special offset here, I'm not sure how useful that was for me.
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I had a look at the windows live skydrive for file hosting but to no avail. It lets you store 25gb of pictures or any files for free, but doesn't give a direct link to the files. Shame. I still think it's great for hosting pictures for ride reports though.