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are they putting in a 400cc thumper in that lil beauty?
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Gardo
are they putting in a 400cc thumper in that lil beauty?
Yes, 400cc SOHC. But is it a thumper or a dumper is yet to be seen.
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400cc and a carb i wonder if it will be a export only model
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Hey Franki at least the Chinese motorcycle manufacturers are heading in the right direction ?Ok I admit there a long way behind but so was Japan a while ago.
I hope they copy the XR 400 work horse reliability. That was one of the best bikes I had did everything.
When are you coming up to Xinjiang next ?
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I doubt that this will pass EU3 emissions. Off road export only?
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Nice looking bike and would be wonderful if it were available in China to fill the gap between the many choices of 125cc, 200cc and 250cc bikes (including some that are still working on China3 compliance) and the two domestic mid-displacement bikes (Jialing JH600A and Chunfeng/CFMoto 650NK).
But I share the doubts of many here about whether this Shineray X5 will be registrable under the China3 rules or Euro3 rules, as ZMC888 notes. What does that leave? Latin America, Africa and parts of Asia, maybe Russia and Central Asia?
That sure does look like a carburetor in those images. Is it possible that a carbed bike could be engineered to meet C3 or Euro3 emissions restrictions?
cheers!
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And the states there are still many carburetated new bikes passingEPA and CARB emmisions. Be a cool bike to see here
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euphonius
Nice looking bike and would be wonderful if it were available in China to fill the gap between the many choices of 125cc, 200cc and 250cc bikes (including some that are still working on China3 compliance) and the two domestic mid-displacement bikes (Jialing JH600A and
Chunfeng/CFMoto 650NK).
But I share the doubts of many here about whether this Shineray X5 will be registrable under the China3 rules or Euro3 rules, as ZMC888 notes. What does that leave? Latin America, Africa and parts of Asia, maybe Russia and Central Asia?
That sure does look like a carburetor in those images. Is it possible that a carbed bike could be engineered to meet C3 or Euro3 emissions restrictions?
cheers!
Australia doesn't yet have such restrictions on emission yet.
One of the top selling bikes Suzuki DRZ400 passes.But that is what it is competing against.
No brainer which one to choose.Pick up a low Klm second hand DRZ for probably alot cheaper than a new Shinerary.
Hey Crazy Carl remember a couple of years back I said EFI will be on all motorcycles whether we like it or not.
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bigdamo
Hey Franki at least the Chinese motorcycle manufacturers are heading in the right direction ?Ok I admit there a long way behind but so was Japan a while ago.
I hope they copy the XR 400 work horse reliability. That was one of the best bikes I had did everything.
When are you coming up to Xinjiang next ?
Hi Bigdamo,
Yes, that is why is spent the time posting this thread but personally I am not getting my hopes up. There are too many fundimental differences between the Japanese and the Chinese for me to draw equation.
I'd love to visit Xinjiang again but I have other goals too. So I need to sort out my priorities. 2012 major target is to ride down to S. America.
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ZMC888
I doubt that this will pass EU3 emissions. Off road export only?
Chinese factory's marketing strategy is always a mistery to me....
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Franki
Chinese factory's marketing strategy is always a mistery to me....
Dear Franki,
I have news for you: It's a mystery to the Chinese manufacturers! I think they often have no marketing strategy, just the thought that, "Since I'm a motorcycle factory I should make motorcycles." It's like Field of Dreams: If I make it they will come. Er, not.
Riding down Latin America? Sounds like you have made yourself a bucket list!
cheers!
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euphonius
Dear Franki,
I have news for you: It's a mystery to the Chinese manufacturers! I think they often have no marketing strategy, just the thought that, "Since I'm a motorcycle factory I should make motorcycles." It's like Field of Dreams: If I make it they will come. Er, not.
Riding down Latin America? Sounds like you have made yourself a bucket list!
cheers!
Hi Jeff,
Mutual feelings there, mate.
My bucket list has long since exsist. I am checking it off list one by one since 5 years ago. Have just done a 24,000km trip accross N. America to check out the reliability of my KLR so I can be sure it will be able to take me down to Tierra del Fuego:scooter:
Met a couple of our mutual friends in Cal KLR Tech Daze
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a1...D720/ry%3D480/
http://www.advchina.com/en/data/atta....jpg.thumb.jpg
http://www.advchina.com/en/data/atta....jpg.thumb.jpg
Cheers,
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I guess this sort of bike is still light years ahead of Chinese local mainstream buyers. So Shineray couldn't justify all the red tape for bring the bike GuoIII compliant.
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A little late to the thread for me, but we had a 400cc from Xingyue a few years back here in the US and Canada, as well as throughout the Americas. Seemed like a good alternative to the 200cc doldrums, but I think the pricing has been a little steep for an untested Chinese brand/bike for people to take the plunge. Shineray seems to offer some decent bikes, but again, if the price is too high, they will sell very few.
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Mate and I called Shineray today and got given two telephone numbers for a couple of guys who handle the Chinese domestic market sales. We managed to speak with one of them, who advised that the XY400 (Shineray X5) will be manufactured and hit the market (domestic availability) sometime after the Chinese Spring Festival and should be able to get legal issued license plates in those cities that issue them for motorcycles. Asked a couple of technical questions which he couldn't answer, but sounds like it is intended be available soon.
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Woooo! I like it! Looks much better than JH600
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Spring festival sounds great! Do you think it will be more expensive then JH600? How many years to find out all the problems and release reliable version?
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I was on the phone yesterday to shineray and the export department did not know if the bikes would be legal in China. They passed me over to a couple of guys in the china sales division .. A Mr Ben and A Mr Huang.. They were quite adamant that the bikes would be on the market after the spring festival and will be good for getting plates in China...
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Its just a 400cc single and a copy of another so it should not cost too much to manufacture.
1996-2004 Model
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y.../xr4001996.jpg
If they bring that bike to the USA they should offer it in three versions, off road, dual sport and a motard/adventure, because not everyone wants the same thing….
2005 Motard versions
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...upermoto04.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...er-bracket.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...Untitled-1.jpg
The XR400 shared body parts with the XR250, so them using the same body part on their X2 and X5 would be smart.
The results would be three versions of each and in that cover a wider range of tastes.
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Finally the front cowl and exhaust is on.
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I probably would use the oportunity trade up from my X2...lets see if spring 2012 indeed something C3 complaiant is comming out of Chongqing
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发动机型式 OHC单缸、四冲程、风油冷、四气门、RFVC
缸径 (mm) 行程 (mm) 85.0 x 70.0
排量cc 397cc
压缩比 9.3 :1
最大功率 (kW) 22kw(7000rpm) 30PS
最大扭矩 (N.m) 3.4kg-m/5,500rpm
冷却方式 风冷加车架油冷
供油方式 闭环电喷系统(组成:供油系统、控制系统、参量、操控系统、喷油系统等)
变速器型式 五档常啮合
启动方式 电启动
车架形式 双摇篮钢管车架 (材质:方管、圆管等;表处:喷漆;工艺:焊接)
前倾角( R) 26.5°
拖曳距(T) 79mm
轮辋 前 2.50×21MT 辐条数:36
后 3.00×18MT 辐条数:36
轮胎尺寸(前) 110/90-21 57S 花纹:公路越野两用花纹
轮胎尺寸(后) 130/80-18 65S 花纹:公路越野两用花纹
前悬挂系统 43mm正立式全可调式减震/230mm行程
后悬挂系统 X-link全可调式单筒避震/230mm行程(减震器行程:80mm)
制动系统 前270mm后220mm盘式制动
车体尺寸 2170×830×1340
干重(KG) 145 KG
轴距(mm) 1470
最低座高 (mm) 890/920 mm
手把高度/宽度 (mm) 高度:1200;宽度:810
离地高 300 (mm)
适驾人群身高 (cm) 170以上
转向角度 45°
油箱容量 ≥19 公升(L)
续航能力 ≥500km
蓄电池容量 (V.Ah) 12V 10A.h
最高车速 150 km/h
起步加速 (0~200m) ? (s)
超越加速(30km/h、200m) ? (s)
制动距离 (m) ≤7
经济车速油耗 (L/100km) 3.5
排放指标 达到欧III标准
驱动链条 525RO (品牌:KMC)
磁电机发电容量 (W) 200
前照灯功率 35Wx2=70W
点火方式 电感储能式点火(DLI)
仪表 机械加液晶全功能(增加油量、电量、时间、秒表、水温、机油、瞬时油耗等)
接插件结构 全密封式防水、防漏电接插组合件
自诊断系统 电喷系统故障显示或提示
附加功能 外接电源
Tech Specs announced long time ago. Not known if there is any changes.
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looks really nice sort of like a smaller F650GS i set of adjustible USD forks from the Shineray 250 would make this a complete package in my mind
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i wished they built something like honda xr400 , not an adventure !!!
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I like the look of that engine.. looks like the trx400 honda quad engine which is also electric start. If i can pull wheelies between corners on track days i will be a happy bunny, my xtr is starting to annoy me being so slow.
Is it me or do big rwu forks look very sexy too, i love the right way up ohlins that get fitted to some custom bikes look.. either that or i'm showing my age a bit!!
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Engine Type OHC single cylinder, four stroke, air oil-cooling, four-valve, RFVC
Bore (mm) Stroke (mm) 85.0 x 70.0
Displacement cc 397cc
Compression ratio 9.3: 1
Maximum power (kW) 22kw (7000rpm) 30PS
Maximum torque (N.m) 3.4kg-m / 5,500 rpm
Cooling air-cooled oil cooler plus frame
Oil supply closed-loop EFI system (composed of: fuel injection system, control system, parameters, control systems, fuel injection systems, etc.)
Type five-speed constant mesh transmission
Starter Electric
The form of double-cradle steel frame Frame (Material: square tube, pipe, etc.; Surfacing: painting; technology: welding)
Anteversion (R) 26.5 °
Drag away from the (T) 79mm
2.50 × 21MT front rim spokes: 36
After 3.00 × 18MT spokes: 36
Tire Size (front) 110/90-21 57S pattern: off-road dual-use patterns
Tire Size (rear) 130/80-18 65S pattern: off-road dual-use patterns
43mm front suspension system is full adjustable vertical shock / 230mm travel
X-link rear suspension system, full adjustable monocular shock / 230mm travel (shock absorber stroke: 80mm)
220mm front brake system after disc brake 270mm
Body size 2170 × 830 × 1340
Dry weight (KG) 145 KG
Wheelbase (mm) 1470
The lowest seat height (mm) 890/920 mm
Handlebar height / width (mm) Height: 1200; Width: 810
The high ground 300 (mm)
Suitable for driving the crowd height (cm) 170 or more
Steering angle of 45 °
? 19 liter fuel tank capacity (L)
? 500km endurance
Battery capacity (V. Ah) 12V 10A.h
Maximum speed of 150 km / h
The initial acceleration (0 ~ 200m)? (S)
Beyond the speed (30km / h, 200m)? (S)
Braking distance (m) ? 7
Economic speed fuel consumption (L/100km) 3.5
Emission targets to reach Euro III standards
Drive chain 525RO (brand: KMC)
Magneto capacity (W) 200
Headlamp power 35Wx2 = 70W
Inductive energy storage ignition ignition (DLI)
Full-function LCD instrument machining (increase fuel, electricity, time, stopwatch, water temperature, oil, instantaneous fuel consumption, etc.)
Structural waterproof sealed connectors, leak-proof electrical plug assembly
EFI system self-diagnostic system fault indication or prompt
Additional features external power supply
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