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I need to stop by this site from time to time. The problem with most posts and threads is that most members are not in the US, so it is difficult discussing bikes that only we have in the US, or...

EPA certification takes time--oftentimes, alot of time. I remember reading that SSR was having some trouble financially--cannot recall where, and it was months ago, so don't quote me, but that could...

That is some good horsepower! I believe this is the same engine that is Suzuki-ish as found on the Qingqi enduros, so 19 hp might be accurate. I am not a fan of the seat, but I am a fan of the...

I wonder if they will try for CARB, or will it be 'Californians need not apply'? It would be silly not to try for California, unless that is what made their XF250 enduros so expensive?! :confused1: ...

But they already have the two cafe racer-type bikes with the Longjia Buccaneers, which is why I see them bringing this in only as a bobber. They could/should have figured out a better seat, however!

I am with you on the Snake Eyes. I am not a bobber fan, and I do think a standard with those fat tires would have had a better look. The existing Pioneer model you linked to does look like the two...

Which is which?

edit: I think I have it?

OK, the first two are Longjia, the bobber is Pioneer, and the mini is Yingang?

Anyone recognize the source of any of these bikes? The first three bikes look like competition to Cleveland Cyclewerks's offerings, while the last bike looks like it competes with the Grom and the...