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  1. #21 Re: Who is this motorcycle? 
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    I saw that also, it's like they are following the standards used by the Chinese web sites.
    I wonder if there are a couple of Germans laughing about it, whenever the bike has a Chinese component they make the specification incorrect, a matter of consistent inconsistencies.
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    Could be a "Freudian Slip" I guess.

    There's a whole bunch of noise on some of the BMW sites I frequent about people's worries about the Loncin made motor and how some folks won't pay a premium price for a Beemer with a major Chinese component. I'm willing to bet that the long term quality of the Chinese made motors will turn out to be just as good as the Austrian made ones. BMW has too much to lose if the Loncin lumps start failing prematurely. I'll bet they've got some very close BMW supervision on the assembly line at Loncin.

    Pay a Chinese manufacturer to make a P.O.C. and they'll be happy to oblige. Pay them to produce a quality product and they'll be happy to do that too. It all depends upon your hoped-for profit margin.

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  3. #23 Re: Who is this motorcycle? 
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    If BMW uses those engines I believe there isn't anything to question about building quality, BMW would never use a bad quality product under his name.
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  4. #24 Re: Who is this motorcycle? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bkm_br View Post
    If BMW uses those engines I believe there isn't anything to question about building quality, BMW would never use a bad quality product under his name.
    Hmmm. I'm not certain if that is sarcasm or not!

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  5. #25 Re: Who is this motorcycle? 
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    The BMW has a good warranty, so its a non-issue.

    Is there somebody someplace in the USA selling the “Pulse Adrenaline”, if you Google it you will get educated in blood pressure regulating factors, literarily and figuratively, but that’s the name they are using to market it, it's as bad as the Kung FU 250.…it gives people permission to make fun of you.
    Seriously the bike needs a redesign around that engine, then serious marketing, distribution and product support. I would suggest under the name Xinque America and distinct models names that will make them easy to query on the net. I’m fine with XY400 but doesn’t GY signify a dual purpose bike? Then the dirt bikes are XY400 and XY400-2 that’s not right now is it, the designation GY is on the street bikes, shouldn’t it be on the Dual sports.
    They have four versions of the bike, two standard designs and two BMW knock offs. They must have thought that would cover them, but the bikes are garish in my eyes. So sorry…what the headlight do? Just for looks?

    I would say a standard dual sport and a motard version, then a naked sport bike and a sport bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanKearney View Post
    Hmmm. I'm not certain if that is sarcasm or not!

    This IS NOT sarcasm. Serious.
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    Here is one an Artery 400GY....I knew the name had something to do with the vascular system.

    This dealer claims it has a Lifan engine? Then they also say no sales tax except in Texas?
    http://extrememotos.com.au/ They are Australian, there is no Texas Australia is there?

    I pretty sure it not a Lifan engine and real sure you pay tax when to register the bike in most states.

    They took a $1,000.00 of the price that they are trying to sell the bike for on most sites. It seems to be marketed as an NST 400GY that could stand for No Such Thing as a brand.

    The bike is being offered by Xingyue
    http://en.xingyue.com/xy/web/product...d=9&fact=motor

    Which is what a conglomerate?

    Its a shame that they resort to selling the bikes the way they do, a 400cc bike dropped off at your door.
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  8. #28 Re: Who is this motorcycle? 
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    That bike needs to be tested….it needs to be put through a good long term on the road and off the road test.
    It also needs to be redesigned they are way out there on the design styles.
    I would sugest more refined looking dual sport bike and a motrad version
    Then also two Sport bikes one with fairing and then a naked version.
    I like to see that 400cc all blacked out sitting in a design like this bike from Bashan. Its a very boxy looking engines as it look very angular to me. Not that it’s a box engine because it is not as it’s a big bore short stroke engine. It gets about 29hp at 7000 and if packaged correctly and marketed well and supported it could sell in the US. But just not as it is, not as well as it could.
    This style design to me would be good for that engine. But unfortunately it has a totally different framing.


     
     
    The engine it itself is worth building around, how do you tell them that they really makes goofy looking stuff?
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  9. #29 Re: Who is this motorcycle? 
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    Got a thread on pitster "xingyue" here= http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...rprise-LXT-400

    For the life of me I can't remember who makes the engine for it or what model its based off of.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong but I thought all the BMW singles are being made by SYM or Kymco.

    I'm here for the education, Chinese bike manufacturers confuse me....
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    BMW engines made by Loncin... out of ChongQing IIRC. Same guys that do the Kinlons in Oz.

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