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#21 Re: China: E-Bikers will need driving license12-24-2009, 01:10 PM
I know a bunch of e-bike (e-bicycle) riders and also tried these myself. During rush hours, they are incredible fast, no way to follow by car or in some situations (red lights ) even by moto! The weak point of these are the batteries (performance, lifetime). If my way to work would be in the mileage range of an e-bike, I'd definitely have one.
P.S.
We own 2 cars (Volkswagen), one of which is 3 days and 700kms old The car I gave away a couple of days ago was a "mychinacar" (sucks)
My daily work return trip is 150+ km and I cherish the relative safety and comfort of a car, particularly in winter (we had -8C, 40km/h winds tonight). I leave when it's still dark and I return when it is dark again. The bike is no option from November to February, neither is a e-bike or pedal one all year.
I hate traffic jams as well as ridiculous parking fees and therefore use public transport or the bike to go downtown.
I have driven 1 M+ kms (200k+ thereof in China) in cars, accident free, consider myself a safe and defensive driver (wife would disagree ) and join add on courses from time to time, but I am aware that things can still go wrong
BUT
I love motorbikes - with 2 wheelsAndy
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#22 Re: China: E-Bikers will need driving license12-24-2009, 03:59 PM
I don't think anyone really enjoys commuting on a bike when it's extremely cold, hailing, raining or snowing. You could also add extremely high winds and sand/dust storms in there as well. For these conditions I'd rather be in a car as a matter of safety just as much as comfort.
The problem with cars only really appears when the scale shifts towards the massive end of the spectrum. Plainly put, they're just too much metal in order to move one person around. If they were used at full capacity a majority or all of the time it would be different but in many cases they aren't.
I unsderstand needing some protection from the environment but does a vehicle need to have 300hp and weigh 1500kg to move one person to the office and back every day?
If it's nice outside, just...
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#23 Re: China: E-Bikers will need driving license12-24-2009, 04:01 PM
Andy, of course to be fair often people need cars, especially in your situation, and at this time of year. Usually Chinese need their cars much less than people western countries. I am actually a very experienced car and truck driver in Europe, but I actually hate driving these vehicles on the road. I commiserate with those for whom owning a car is a regrettable necessity, but I can't understand why anyone would ever enjoy driving an underpowered front wheel drive car, especially in a city. But I do understand why it may be enjoyable on an empty road, it's just that I would always prefer to be on a motorcycle (weather permitting of course).
I am in favor of e-bikes due to the situation of one of my co-workers. He lives 3-4km from work, he is too old for a bicycle to be a practical option, and a car is too expensive on his salary. An e-bike is his lifeline, to imagine this being taken away from him, is a bad idea in my opinion.Without consciousness, space and time are nothing; in reality you can take any time -- whether past or future -− as your new frame of reference. Death is a reboot that leads to all potentialities.
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#24 Re: China: E-Bikers will need driving license12-26-2009, 07:30 AM
this depends on the person
Yeah, right but difficult to draw a line.
that's for sure
Temp (incl. wind chill) > freezing AND temp (incl. heat index) < 40C AND wind < 30 kph AND raindrop dia < 6mm = NICE (for me in Beijing)
Some more reads about the actual topic.
http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%...18-186682.html
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/wor...es_430670.html
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...t_12658766.htm
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=a1g_bLUPbGHk
http://www.bikeradar.com/news/articl...ostponed-24440
First time I heard about electric mountain bikes.
Andy
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#25 Re: China: E-Bikers will need driving license12-26-2009, 12:02 PM
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#26 Re: China: E-Bikers will need driving licenseAndy
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#27 Re: China: E-Bikers will need driving license
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01-22-2010, 12:17 PMHOnestly, 2500 fatalities in a country of 1.2 billion is nothing. If China could crack down of bad driving it would actually make the place safer.
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#28 Re: China: E-Bikers will need driving license01-23-2010, 12:53 AMIf China could crack down of bad driving it would actually make the place safer.Without consciousness, space and time are nothing; in reality you can take any time -- whether past or future -− as your new frame of reference. Death is a reboot that leads to all potentialities.
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#29 Re: China: E-Bikers will need driving license
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#30 Re: China: E-Bikers will need driving license01-23-2010, 01:34 AM
They have to
A bunch of my staff is currently in training for their driving license or recently got it. It's horrible how much they get taught.
It ranges from funny to dangerous.
When you reach a speed of 60 kph you must have shifted into the fifth gear.
The left most lane on is the safest on an expressway
In bad visual conditions, e.g. dense fog, you turn on the hazard flash not the lights. It saves electricity and therefore gasoline
All this and much more has been said by driving instructorsAndy
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