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  1. #1 Puzey OR CCM / 300Water coller OR 500 Air cooled 
    Adicto A Las Motocicletas Caferacer's Avatar
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    Hi All,

    Puzey and CCM are offering what it seems to be the same bike



    http://ccm-motorcycles.com/ccmmotorc...d=22&Itemid=28



    http://www.puzey.co.za/offroadbikes/xtr4500mtd_main.asp

    There is info about the specs and features, and both, the 300 and 500 models seem to be sharing the cycle components but the engine.. (I'm not getting the wheel base, the 500 is slightly longer (wheel travel ?)).

    It would be really interesting to know is the power/weight ratio, as the ...
    300cc is water cooled and claiming 124 kilos against 144(heavy uh?) for the 500c.
    the previous XTR 250 LC 2 114kg (claiming 128 Km/h max speed)
    and finally XTR 250 F ( galaxy? ) 98/102Kg OFF/ON road versions.

    Kw/HP info is missing or I couldn't find it.

    Reliability wise I 'd read the Galaxy threads I it seems to quite clear what to expect from that machine but the rest?...

    The 500cc , it could be ending up as sort of Honda XR600 detuned or XR400 big-bore, in both cases, as per design it can be a winner.

    What Do you guys know about that "New Engines"?

    Great Forum!
    Cheers,
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  2. #2 Re: Puzey OR CCM / 300Water coller OR 500 Air cooled 
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    Hi All,

    Puzey Web site updated

    XTR 4 300


    • The 300cc 4 stroke - 4 valve - short stroke SPORT engine
    • 28 Bhp (37nm Torque) electric start and kick start.
    • 6 speed gearbox.
    • Available in MX / MXL off road // Motard / Enduro road legal
    • 3 tire options, MX, trail universal 18"-21" and Motard 17"-17"
    • Travel front 245mm / Rebound and compression
    • travel rear 240mm / Preload, rebound and compression
    • wheel base 1490mm
    • Seat height MAX 920mm (adjustable CAM link suspension can be lowered 75mm @ seat)
    • Forks can be lowed 65mm

    XTR 4 500


    • 500cc
    • The 500cc 4 stroke - 4 valve - Medium stroke - Air cooled engine
    • 38 Bhp (49nm Torque) electric start and kick start - Hand decomposer.
    • 5 speed gearbox.
    • Available in MX / MXL off road // Motard / Enduro road legal
    • 3 tire options, MX, trail universal 18"-21" and Motard 17"-17"
    • Travel front 245mm / Rebound and compression
    • travel rear 240mm / Preload, rebound and compression
    • wheel base 1510
    • Seat height MAX 920mm (adjustable CAM link suspension can be lowered 75mm @ seat)
    • Forks can be lowed 65mm

    No Prices Yet @Puzey But CCM Uk is advertising it for

    Specification XTR-4 500 , Retail on the road price: £1,483
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  3. #3 Re: Puzey OR CCM / 300Water coller OR 500 Air cooled 
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    It looks like The Price was a Typo

    XTR-4 300

    £3 223.00


    The new CCM XTR-4 300
    [Product Details...]





    XTR-4 500

    £3 806.00


    The new CCM XTR-4 500
    [Product Details...]
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  4. #4 Re: Puzey OR CCM / 300Water coller OR 500 Air cooled 
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    Interesting bikes, love the new headlight! 38bhp isn't bad for a chinese bike! Any idea if they're available in china?
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  5. #5 Re: Puzey OR CCM / 300Water coller OR 500 Air cooled 
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    Not sure but Mike Puzey ships these everywhere. I have put in my order for a 300cc - it runs with a loncin 4V engine and it has done a lot of major enduros. The 500 engine is based on the Cagiva 500cc so it should be an excellent power beast, it kinda remids me of the old XR500.
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  6. #6 Re: Puzey OR CCM / 300Water coller OR 500 Air cooled 
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    PUZEY is a South African design company. They make these bikes PARTS under license in China and sell them to other customers who assembles them LIKE CCM UK. CCM is simply relabeling the PUZEY bike.

    Puzey.co.za has pics of the bikes and racing them for the last while if you’re interested?
    There will be 250cc-300cc-450cc-500cc 4 strokes by 2011 yearend and 2 new 2 strokes 320cc and 620cc… Great bikes basically 85% of a brand for 50% the price!! All use proper engines and Euro plastics so they look great and go great.
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