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  1. #1 Asia Wing, New 500 cc models 
    C-Moto Not-so-Noob Niels Thomsen's Avatar
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    Hi all
    Just saw Asiawing got a new homepage with 500 cc Spark which we have seen before.
    http://www.asiawing.com/english/index.asp
    And a brand new Fox 500 cc. They claim they got 40.8 = 54 HP. I doubt it. But about 40 HP would not be impossible.

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  2. #2 Re: Asia Wing, New 500 cc models 
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    Nice find, thanks for the update!

    I know this is subjective and the picture is appalling, but is that Fox500 the ugliest bike you've seen or what?!

    Wish they had more pics up of the Spark. Looks like they may have changed the front lights, which is a good thing as the old one was also a monstrosity (subjective again, sorry):

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  3. #3 Re: Asia Wing, New 500 cc models 
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    They sell that Spark for what it china? $3,750.00?

    If it was bullet proof which you can be sure it is not, it would be a bargain. But these are basically hand made and that means wide variations in quality.

    They could use one frame and one engine, then release different styles of that and that is kind of what they are doing but they have to have a high degree of standard interchangeable parts.

    If they did that they may be able to get the unit cost down to a level that would allow them to sell them well below the market prices.

    They get side tracked with creativity and that wastes time and money and that capital will not likely ever get recovered. I think that looking at Honda and Suzuki’s foreign investments set a direction they should follow… all of them. You build to the demand of the masses and that gets market share and then gets capital to grow and develop new models.

    One universal frame and engine and a multiplicity of styles based off it. It is what they are attempting to do just not very well.

    Look these are the same motorcycles. Transformers? That low cost and offer a wider customer base.

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  4. #4 Re: Asia Wing, New 500 cc models 
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    I am fairly sure that the Spark is a copy of the Cagiva River....



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  5. #5 Re: Asia Wing, New 500 cc models 
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    http://www.peoplesmotor.com/

    Dazon claims to have a GN350 engine they are offering on three different models.


    • Engine Type: 343.2cc,four stroke,SOHC,single cylinder 4-valve,Air/oil-cooled
    • Bore×Stroke: 84.5mm×61.2mm
    • Carburetor: 34mm
    • Starter: Electric
    • Transmission: 5-speed drive

    But I think the the actual 350 that was on the DR350 had a six speed?
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  6. #6 Re: Asia Wing, New 500 cc models 
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    This is interesting…say you are in Ireland and want a Qingqi bike.

    Then check this out….

    http://www.bikeworld.ie/

    Click on NEW BIKES and then look at the brand names….

    You can find that for about any location in the UK and you will find the Sinnis brand sitting with equal billing to the major brands. They are not doing that with large displacement bikes they are doing it with 125cc bikes. They are though about to offer a 250cc version and then what? They just have to stay the course and move up in lines into a generational market as they mature they may buy up and if they liked what they started on they stay with that brand.

    They could do that in the USA and likely will eventually, they can and could do that with a 250cc line of bikes and also with a line of scooters. They simply have to keep the prices low to be the value leader. They could also get access to that 350cc engine and it would be a very logical second level to take a 250cc line of bikes.

    The USA is so big though its territory is huge the UK is all easy to access from or out of one hub, the USA has actually distinct regions that have to be centrally distributed out of….

    I have to wonder if merging all the giants was wise….they should be buying up all the little manufactures. They may have to buy Qlink to get control of the USA market. They probably should do that and now since they are cashed strapped and not doing so may damage the footing they established in the market.

    They may also consider buying up Dazon that being Peoples Motors. That is something to consider as they have already developed the GN350 and it could be then refined and introduced eventually to the Qingqi line.

    I am still waiting on my BIG BOY! I may wait for a 350cc version with over 30hp?

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  7. #7 Re: Asia Wing, New 500 cc models 
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    just the facts:
    DSCN1078.jpg
    Model: SR - 300.
    Frame: copy Cagiva-River
    Engine: copy Suzuki GN250 (increased cylinder diameter).
    11000 km without any problem.
    My friend use SR - 500. Frame and engine are copy of Cagiva-River.
    As I can see, Spark has frame and engine from previous model: SR-500.
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  8. #8 Re: Asia Wing, New 500 cc models 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    just the facts:
    DSCN1078.jpg
    Model: SR - 300.
    Frame: copy Cagiva-River
    Engine: copy Suzuki GN250 (increased cylinder diameter).
    11000 km without any problem.
    My friend use SR - 500. Frame and engine are copy of Cagiva-River.
    As I can see, Spark has frame and engine from previous model: SR-500.
    Same bike...
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  9. #9 Re: Asia Wing, New 500 cc models 
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    I think its a GS250 engine.
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